arachne-digest Sunday, March 16 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2074
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On March 3rd the spam fighters shot down the free email service formerly offered by "http://www.subdimension.com"; where I used to have a free email account. They used to offer very fast and reliable POP3 service and they offered free web-based email too. Now they are not even offering any email services for pay. The spam fighters also shot down "Telebot" and "Valise.com" in recent years. Maybe they murdered a lot of the races of little people in some atrocities I haven't heard about yet. I only very seldomly received any spams originating from any of those domains, even though I had been a subscriber to their free email services. I am always receiving a whole lot of spams from the big powerful and evil dictator domains such as hotmail and yahoo. Why are the spam fighters interested only in killing off the little people who are trying very hard to behave in a manner that will not offend anybody, and who will take appropriate action against their own people who do offend others? Why don't the spam fighters form a coalition to strike down the big powerful and evil dictator domains that are truly the worst offenders? The worst offenders are always launching their spam missiles against all of us innocent victims who never did anything wrong to deserve any of this constant bombardment. Many of their weapons of mass destruction are designed to disperse very harmful biological agents such as viruses and worm larvae to invade MicroSoft tissues. If they get into any Micr$oft tissues they will grow there. Then they will soon start multiplying by binary replication. The result is most often fatal for computers suffering from auto-immune defiency diseases such as Window$. Those who brought about the visitations of such plagues as these are the big people, not the little people. Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:58:45 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? Hey, Sam; I too am upset in losing my subdimension account, in over a year of using their free email service, I was spammed once and only once. They were very diligent in controlling spam. I gave up hotmail, because it was a festering stinkhole of spam, and hard to access with anything other than IE. My yahoo account this week had 356 spam letters, and only four legitimate emails in two days! I could access my subdimension webmail, very easily with any and all browsers, DOS or Linux, including Arachne, Links, Lynx, Nettamer, Lynx386, or any other. POP3 was very reliable, and their WEB pages easily accessed by any browser. I HATE &%^#)!$ SPAM, but why should they lose their services, when the big boys are far more polluted, and much less effective in controlling the spam? Torqued Off in Middle America; Rob: On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > From: Samuel W. Heywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Arachne List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0500 > Subject: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? > X-Mailer: Arachne V1.70;rev.3 > > On March 3rd the spam fighters shot down the free email service > formerly offered by "http://www.subdimension.com"; where I used to > have a free email account. They used to offer very fast and > reliable POP3 service and they offered free web-based email too. > Now they are not even offering any email services for pay. The spam > fighters also shot down "Telebot" and "Valise.com" in recent years. > Maybe they murdered a lot of the races of little people in some > atrocities I haven't heard about yet. I only very seldomly received > any spams originating from any of those domains, even though I had > been a subscriber to their free email services. I am always receiving > a whole lot of spams from the big powerful and evil dictator domains > such as hotmail and yahoo. Why are the spam fighters interested > only in killing off the little people who are trying very hard to > behave in a manner that will not offend anybody, and who will take > appropriate action against their own people who do offend others? > Why don't the spam fighters form a coalition to strike down the big > powerful and evil dictator domains that are truly the worst offenders? > The worst offenders are always launching their spam missiles against > all of us innocent victims who never did anything wrong to deserve any > of this constant bombardment. Many of their weapons of mass > destruction are designed to disperse very harmful biological agents > such as viruses and worm larvae to invade MicroSoft tissues. If they > get into any Micr$oft tissues they will grow there. Then they will > soon start multiplying by binary replication. The result is most > often fatal for computers suffering from auto-immune defiency diseases > such as Window$. Those who brought about the visitations of such > plagues as these are the big people, not the little people. Why are > they trying to kill off only the little people? > > Sam Heywood > -- > This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: > http://browser.arachne.cz/ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 03 02:13:44 �x�_�зǮɶ� From: "8888dddb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: �X���ܻT����M�� auto.voip - ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_22B376DE.2CBED45 Content-Type: text/html; charset= "big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+DQo8aGVhZD4NCjx0aXRsZT6lWKT0qty7VLGhveyxTb3mPC90aXRsZT4NCjxtZXRh IGh0dHAtZXF1aXY9IkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZSIgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0 PWJpZzUiPg0KPHNjcmlwdCBsYW5ndWFnZT0iSmF2YVNjcmlwdCI+DQo8IS0tDQpmdW5jdGlv biBNTV9maW5kT2JqKG4sIGQpIHsgLy92My4wDQogIHZhciBwLGkseDsgIGlmKCFkKSBkPWRv Y3VtZW50OyBpZigocD1uLmluZGV4T2YoIj8iKSk+MCYmcGFyZW50LmZyYW1lcy5sZW5ndGgp IHsNCiAgICBkPXBhcmVudC5mcmFtZXNbbi5zdWJzdHJpbmcocCsxKV0uZG9jdW1lbnQ7IG49 bi5zdWJzdHJpbmcoMCxwKTt9DQogIGlmKCEoeD1kW25dKSYmZC5hbGwpIHg9ZC5hbGxbbl07 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On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On March 3rd the spam fighters shot down the free email service > formerly offered by "http://www.subdimension.com"; where I used to > have a free email account. They used to offer very fast and Why do you attribute this to the "spam fighters"?? Lots of free internet services have gone by the board because nobody can figure out how to make them pay and support themselves. Maybe that's the reason. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:20:11 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:47:04 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> On March 3rd the spam fighters shot down the free email service >> formerly offered by "http://www.subdimension.com"; where I used to >> have a free email account. They used to offer very fast and xfree email service > Why do you attribute this to the "spam fighters"?? Lots of free > internet services have gone by the board because nobody can figure > out how to make them pay and support themselves. Maybe that's > the reason. Quite right. IMO, The #1 cause of "free service demise" is the fact that no-one is paying for those services. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:34:29 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Internet posao - - Imate racunar i pristup internetu ??? - - Iskoristite to i zaradite !!! Upisite ime, prezime i e-mail adresu na: http://rolee.exec.ws ili na http://rolee.exec.ws/eng.html .. a mi cemo Vas kontaktirati i upoznati sa ovom izuzetnom poslovnom prilikom. VERUJTE NECETE BITI RAZOCARANI ! ! ! Ukljucenje je apsolutno besplatno i bez rizika. Vase je da samo potvrdite clanstvo kad Vam stigne oficijalni Email od firme. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:25:09 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:47:04 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:39:36 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> On March 3rd the spam fighters shot down the free email service >> formerly offered by "http://www.subdimension.com"; where I used to >> have a free email account. They used to offer very fast and > Why do you attribute this to the "spam fighters"?? Lots of free > internet services have gone by the board because nobody can figure > out how to make them pay and support themselves. Maybe that's > the reason. > Sam Ewalt > Croswell, Michigan, USA > -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ The subdimension web site explains that their email services were shut down by the spam fighters. I do know of other free email services that have announced that they had to stop offering free email services for financial reasons. Some of them are still offering email services, but no longer for free. The "valise.com" web site used to offer a fine email service for a very nominal fee. They used to have lots of subscribers for their service. They announced that they were shut down by the spam fighters. I don't know why they were picked on. I very seldom received any spam originating from that domain even though I was a subscriber. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:29:46 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? linuxfreemail.com is still free, and it works with arachne. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:04:38 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:25:09 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > The subdimension web site explains that their email services were > shut down by the spam fighters. I do know of other free email > services that have announced that they had to stop offering free > email services for financial reasons. Some of them are still > offering email services, but no longer for free. > The "valise.com" web site used to offer a fine email service for a > very nominal fee. They used to have lots of subscribers for their > service. They announced that they were shut down by the spam fighters. > I don't know why they were picked on. I very seldom received any spam > originating from that domain even though I was a subscriber. I stand corrrected. http://www,subdimension.com explains that their ISP terminated their connection for breaching the terms of service. Subdimension admits to "an open relay problem" and also admits that some of their subscribers involved themselves in spam activities and that they don't know what to do about it. A few weeks ago you were explaining how you thought it reasonable that sdf.lonestar.org blocked domains that were the origins of spam. Isn't the ISP's pulling the plug on subdimension consistent with the anti-spam viewpoint you've advocated in the past? Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:54:31 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:29:46 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > linuxfreemail.com is still free, and it works with > arachne. For me Linuxfreemail works for doing POP3 with any DOS-based email client. The web-based interface part doesn't work at all with anything, not even with Window$ browsers and not even with the linux LINKS browser. I can send an email to the webmaster to tell him about about this problem, but he will not reply. Linuxfreemail also provides PINE running on a remote server accessible by Telnet. The setup for the "URL-view" feature doesn't work on that server. Other than that it does PINE just fine. Recently Linuxfreemail went down for a very long time, maybe for a couple of months or more. There was never any explanation posted nor any email sent to me to tell me why they went down for so long. Linuxfreemail has been up and running again for about the last two or three weeks or so. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:29:22 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:04:38 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:25:09 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> The subdimension web site explains that their email services were >> shut down by the spam fighters. I do know of other free email >> services that have announced that they had to stop offering free >> email services for financial reasons. Some of them are still >> offering email services, but no longer for free. >> The "valise.com" web site used to offer a fine email service for a >> very nominal fee. They used to have lots of subscribers for their >> service. They announced that they were shut down by the spam fighters. >> I don't know why they were picked on. I very seldom received any spam >> originating from that domain even though I was a subscriber. > I stand corrrected. > http://www,subdimension.com explains that their ISP terminated > their connection for breaching the terms of service. Subdimension > admits to "an open relay problem" and also admits that some of > their subscribers involved themselves in spam activities and that > they don't know what to do about it. > A few weeks ago you were explaining how you thought it reasonable > that sdf.lonestar.org blocked domains that were the origins of spam. > Isn't the ISP's pulling the plug on subdimension consistent with > the anti-spam viewpoint you've advocated in the past? Yes, it is consistent with the anti-spam viewpoint I have advocated in the past. My point is that I think they should start taking down the worst offenders first before they start picking on the little people. Everyone knows who the big time offenders are and nobody is doing anything about them. I am an advocate also of lenient punishment for first offenders whose offenses are not very grave and for offenders whose offenses are very minor and few and who indicate a willingness to take steps to correct their behavior. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:02:41 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Yes, it is consistent with the anti-spam viewpoint I have advocated in > the past. My point is that I think they should start taking down the > worst offenders first before they start picking on the little people. > Everyone knows who the big time offenders are and nobody is doing > anything about them. Really? Who do YOU think the worst offenders are? - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 17:04:52 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are they trying to kill off only the little people? On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:02:41 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Yes, it is consistent with the anti-spam viewpoint I have advocated in >> the past. My point is that I think they should start taking down the >> worst offenders first before they start picking on the little people. >> Everyone knows who the big time offenders are and nobody is doing >> anything about them. > Really? Who do YOU think the worst offenders are? Did you ever wonder why everybody who signs up for a hotmail or a yahoo account gets dumped on with tons of spam? Could it be that hotmail and yahoo sell email addresses to spammers? People who use many of the lesser-known free email services only seldomly get spammed. We may of course most reasonably suspect that yahoo sells email addresses to spammers because they actively promote and they host lots of porn sites. At least they used to be into doing that at one time in the recent past. I don't know if they are still doing it. Anyway, you know how almost all porn sites promote themselves. By spam. Many spammmers use yahoo and hotmail email addresses. Some of the spams actually originate from yahoo and hotmail servers. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2074 ******************************
