arachne-digest         Thursday, June 5 2003         Volume 01 : Number 2139




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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:31:56 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:55:23 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:00:05 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

>> Maybe you misunderstand me. Due to laziness my email index frequently
>> has around two hundred old messages in it. Then I download new ones,

> Hmmm... why would you want to keep all those messages in the Inbox, and
> then add MORE???? If you're ever going to read the older ones, you
> should do it BEFORE you download the new ones, IMO.

> Otherwise they get so old they are no longer relevant, so you might as
> well right-click on them and delete them now.


Age has nothing to do with relevance. I like to save things and I
don't like to sort. That's the way I am. I'm not suggesting this
is rational or productive or a good practice to follow. (sorting
and deleting before getting more does sound like good policy)

But that's not what I do. So I want my software to serve me by
behaving the way I want it to.

Sorry you have a problem with people being different and wanting to
do things different than you. Eventually I get around to cleaning out 
the inbox a bit. Somethings I plan on leaving in the Inbox forever.
That way I know where to find them instead of wondering what file
they got filed under.






Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:39:33 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: version 0.b7

Sam Ewalt wrote,

. > Gee, Roger, that's bad. You mean you've been working steadily without
. > any time off for at least the last sixty-two years? You didn't even get
. > school holidays when you were eight? You're overdue for a little
. > rest and relaxation, don't you think?

The time will come all too quickly now when I will be able to rest eternally 
and still don't look forward to it, but at least I won't be bored doing 
nothing (at least I don't think so).

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:05:33 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "DIAL-A-PRANK", or, "What will the spammers think of next?"

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1 Dial 0906 664 1902
2 Select the prank [Eg: Inland Revenue, My Daughter`s Pregnant].
3 Enter your victims telephone number.
4 Listen to their reaction as the computer dials out to them!

==Now includes these features==

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:29:25 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list OLD button, was Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:01:04 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:56:50 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> I just realized that using .OLD as the file extension prevents
>> the 'Move' button from showing when we view one of those files. :(

> Amazing how that "Send mail NOW" button seems to kick the old thinking
> machine into gear *after* it is pressed <G>

Ah Ha... you have also noticed that. ;-)


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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:23:02 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "DIAL-A-PRANK", or, "What will the spammers think of next?"

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:05:33 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

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<snip>

> --------------- forwarded spam ends -----------

> Sam Heywood


Thank you Sam,

Just what I wanted... YET ANOTHER SPAM IN MY INBOX. <g g g g>


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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:34:17 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:31:56 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:55:23 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:00:05 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

>>> Maybe you misunderstand me. Due to laziness my email index frequently
>>> has around two hundred old messages in it. Then I download new ones,

>> Hmmm... why would you want to keep all those messages in the Inbox, and
>> then add MORE???? If you're ever going to read the older ones, you
>> should do it BEFORE you download the new ones, IMO.

>> Otherwise they get so old they are no longer relevant, so you might as
>> well right-click on them and delete them now.

> Age has nothing to do with relevance. I like to save things and I
> don't like to sort. That's the way I am. I'm not suggesting this
> is rational or productive or a good practice to follow. (sorting
> and deleting before getting more does sound like good policy)

> But that's not what I do. So I want my software to serve me by
> behaving the way I want it to.

> Sorry you have a problem with people being different and wanting to
> do things different than you. Eventually I get around to cleaning out
> the inbox a bit. Somethings I plan on leaving in the Inbox forever.
> That way I know where to find them instead of wondering what file
> they got filed under.

I don't get the impression that Greg 'has a problem' with it, so-to-speak.

I do think he is simply pointing-out how *he* would do things
if it were *him*. <g g g>

As for 'having a problem' with differences....
Also, no such feeling here with me. <g g g>

In fact, I am quite glad that no two people seem want the
same things out of Arachne.

It's those differences between how each user wants Arachne to work
that keeps me interested and keeps me working on her. :))

BTW Sam,
What do think of my little idea to rename to some other extension ?

Does that do what you need done ?

IMO,
Christof has a great idea with his usage of both inbox.dgi and inboxa.dgi

And since DGIs can be named just about anything we want.
oldbox.dgi, oldinbox.dgi, myoldstuff.dgi... etc... etc...

These will all work just fine as the name of the DGI

Plus, since the Shft+F? keys can be programed to 'call' a DGI

2 lines like this in Arachne.cfg

ShiftF8 file:myoldmail.dgi
ShiftF9 file:markasold.dgi

And then these 3 lines in mime.cfg can do it all automatically
with the pressing just a couple of keys.

file/markasold.dgi >HTM|ren $M*.cnm *.cno \n
 [130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.cnm -cache=$t>$2
(above line broken for emailing)

file/myoldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.cno -cache=$t>$2

file/.cno          >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe $1 -cache=$t>$2
_________

The only draw-back with this method is that the 'Move' button
will not be on screen when we a viewing any of the .cno files.

________

Now.. if all of that is just too much trouble.

1) cd \arachne<enter>
2) ren *.cnm *.cno<enter>

Done <g g g>

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:52:48 -0800
From: "Ray Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2138

Hi all,

> 2. MARK, FMARK, and RELEASE
> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> MARK.COM and RELEASE.EXE are used to remove TSR's from memory, without
> requiring a system reboot. In their simplest form, MARK and RELEASE
> are used as follows:

> 1. Run MARK before installing your TSR(s). This marks the current
> position in memory and stores information that RELEASE will later need
> to restore the system. A common place to call MARK is in your
> AUTOEXEC.BAT file.

> 2. Install whatever TSR's you want, using the normal method for each
> TSR.

> 3. To remove those TSR's from memory, run RELEASE. This will release
> all of the memory above (and including) the last MARK, and will
> restore the system to the state at the time the MARK was made.

Yup, the mark/release combo is a mighty fine thing.  It does such a good
job of restoring a system to its original state that it can even be used
to evaporate windows 9x and return the computer to its pre 'win' 
strait DOS state, which I *love* being able to do.

with none of the usual shutdown balloney.

Ray Andrews,
Vancouver, Canada



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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:08:33 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Saving a web page

Hi List...
Does anuone know how to save a web page?

I know that the bits ans pieces could be found in the cache... but the
names are changed and so the images do not fit anymore into the HTML.

Is there a possibility to store a page, including images, without
converting back the funny new names in the cache into the ones originaly
used in the pages HTML?

Regards, Bastiaan
.



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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:54:45 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Saving a web page

On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:08:33 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> Hi List...
> Does anuone know how to save a web page?

> I know that the bits ans pieces could be found in the cache... but the
> names are changed and so the images do not fit anymore into the HTML.

> Is there a possibility to store a page, including images, without
> converting back the funny new names in the cache into the ones originaly
> used in the pages HTML?

Since most of the images we encounter on the web are named in LFN format.

It will be "next to imposible" to do it in DOS.

That is why Arachne must save the files into the cache in 8.3 format.
8 numerical digits and a 3 character file extension.

nnnnnnnn.HTM was This-Is-My-House-And-Welcome-To-It.html
nnnnnnnn.JPG was this_Is_a_photo_of_my_house.JPEG
nnnnnnnn.MPG was Mpeg-Movie_file_of_my-wife-walking-into-our-house.Mpeg


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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:59:07 -0300
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: My fax recommendation

Hi Sam,

Thanks for your link !

I thought that it had a typo  but it worked fine from here (non US)
just putting

www.tpc.int

Three letter for a TLD is weird eh ?

My problem:

I downloaded the client software for Windoze (not DOS version)
from there:
HQ Fax

It asked even for nameserver of my ISP (I had to dig on it with
domtools.com)

Everything sounded fine (after rebooting...he).

But it tells that there is a COM port error  ?

I think I have a setup mistake.

Have you any hint or an alternative client software to send a fax.
( I used to fax with a bundle Suite for winXX, will it work ?)

The US area coverage is not complete but unless the software checked
(already in the webiste) which  area codes will work.



Thanks.

I think to offer this people as test volunteer for a local fax gate despite
that here  phone is metered even if calling to next door neighbour ! :(



Rafael




















- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Arachne List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:05 PM
Subject: My fax recommendation


> http://www-usa.tpc.int/sendfax.html
> TPC.INT: Send a fax
>
> The service is free.  Nothing to sign up for and no software to
> download and install and configure.  You don't even need to have
> a so-called "faxmodem".
>
> The TPC sendfax system is compatible with all classes of fax machines.
>
> Works with Arachne.  It will work either with Arachne's email program
> or with the www interface.  Using the TPC sendfax service I can send
> a fax even with my Nokia cell phone.
>
> When the TPC sendfax system is used with Arachne's email client it can
> send a fax having graphics.  When used with the www interface it can
> send a fax having only ascii text.
>
> It doesn't work for sending faxes to fax machines in some area
> codes.  The TPC fax web site has a very long list of area codes that
> their system is networked with.
>
> When you use the TPC sendfax system they will send in addition to your
> fax, a one page cover sheet having an advertisement for some business
> conveniently located in the same area code as the recipient fax machine.
> Also the TPC sendfax system will send the user by email a status report
> on the fax, whether successfully sent, or line busy, or line out of
> service, or line answered by a human or whatnot.  The service will
> automatically make a couple of more attempts to send the fax if the
> first attempt is not successful.
>
> Sam Heywood

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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:00:22 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: My fax recommendation

On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:59:07 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Sam,

> Thanks for your link !

> I thought that it had a typo  but it worked fine from here (non US)
> just putting

> www.tpc.int

> Three letter for a TLD is weird eh ?

> My problem:

> I downloaded the client software for Windoze (not DOS version)
> from there:
> HQ Fax

> It asked even for nameserver of my ISP (I had to dig on it with
> domtools.com)

> Everything sounded fine (after rebooting...he).

> But it tells that there is a COM port error  ?

> I think I have a setup mistake.

> Have you any hint or an alternative client software to send a fax.
> ( I used to fax with a bundle Suite for winXX, will it work ?)

> The US area coverage is not complete but unless the software checked
> (already in the webiste) which  area codes will work.

> Thanks.

> I think to offer this people as test volunteer for a local fax gate despite
> that here  phone is metered even if calling to next door neighbour ! :(

> Rafael

I didn't download any of their software.  I use their service
to send faxes by using only Arachne or by using my Nokia cell
phone.  You don't need any special fax software to send faxes
with their service.  You don't even need a so-called
"faxmodem" and you certainly do not need Windoze.  Their service
should work with any browser or with any email client.  With
their service you can send a fax to any class of fax machine
located in any area code they are networked with.  You can do it
for the same cost as for a local phone call, assuming that your
dialup connection to your ISP is a local phone call.

Sam Heywood
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 9:37:7 +0000
From: "J J Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [A-list] Re: Saving a web page

======= On 2003-06-04 at 20:54:00 Glenn McCorkle wrote: =======

>Since most of the images we encounter on the web are named in LFN format.
>
>It will be "next to imposible" to do it in DOS.
>
>That is why Arachne must save the files into the cache in 8.3 format.
>8 numerical digits and a 3 character file extension.

Just FYI, the best known of the smaller current multi-platform (though
not DOS) browsers uses 8.3 filenames in its cache. When a webpage is 
saved with images, the images are given 8.3 filenames based on their 
originals (not those in cache) and the page source is re-written using 
these names AND placing all the images in the same directory as the HTML. 

Before Arachne's cache indexing went wrong, I'd occasionally save the
cache as a way to browse pages with images offline. A download manager
(WGET?) might be an option, but I don't know how/if the LFNs are handled.

Cheers,

Jake Young

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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:19:44 -0930
From: "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: My fax recommendation

On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:00:22 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:59:07 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Hi Sam,
>> Thanks for your link !
>> I thought that it had a typo  but it worked fine from here (non US)
>> just putting
>> www.tpc.int
>> Three letter for a TLD is weird eh ?
>> My problem:
>> I downloaded the client software for Windoze (not DOS version)
>> from there:
>> HQ Fax
>> It asked even for nameserver of my ISP (I had to dig on it with
>> domtools.com)
>> Everything sounded fine (after rebooting...he).
>> But it tells that there is a COM port error  ?
>> I think I have a setup mistake.
>> Have you any hint or an alternative client software to send a fax.
>> ( I used to fax with a bundle Suite for winXX, will it work ?)
>> The US area coverage is not complete but unless the software checked
>> (already in the webiste) which  area codes will work.

Is this service available for non-USA area users and recipients?

Cooee and Love,
Kevin...  XXXXXXXXXXX

       =  in sunny Adelaide, South Australia, South Australia
                        Gourmet Capital of the world            =


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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:50:54 -0930
From: "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SMM

Could it be possible to send SMM [or whatever the mobile things are] via
e_mail???


Cooee and Love,
Kevin...  XXXXXXXXXXX

       =  in windy Adelaide, South Australia, South Australia
                        Gourmet Capital of the world            =


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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:05:25 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: My fax recommendation

On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:19:44 -0930, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 00:00:22 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 22:59:07 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip>

> Is this service available for non-USA area users and recipients?

According to my understanding of how the system works, the service
is available for use by both USA and non-USA senders.  For the fax
recipients I believe it works only for fax machines located in the
area codes listed at the service's web site.  Some countries other
than the US might have services similar to the US TPC sendfax system.
It would be quite feasible to implement such a system anywhere in the
world where such a system could pay for itself from the fees for the
advertising it generates.

Here is how the system works according to my understanding:

The sender prepares and sends an email message to a "properly
formatted" email address.  (The web page explains how to "properly
format" the recipient email address as
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] machine_ phone_number")  The sender
may send his email message as ascii or as a base64 encoded TIFF
image.  The system will not forward a message from a sender whose
supplied "From:" email address is not valid.  The "properly formatted"
email destination address is really just an alias for the email
address of a participating business located in an area relatively
local to the recipient fax machine.  The computer belonging to the
participating business automatically converts the email to a fax and
prepends a cover sheet which includes an advertising message from the
participating business.  Then the computer belonging to the
participating business relays the converted email message as a fax to
the recipient's fax machine.

What the system really does is to convert an email to a fax.

Any group of folks located in many various countries throughout the
world could establish their very own network to do something very
similar.  They wouldn't even have to generate any advertising if they
didn't want to generate any free money by providing their services
for free.

Sam Heywood
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 16:26:12 +0300
From: "Vladimir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: arachne 1.73 gpl 

Hi, All.
please, give me link where i can download subj.
and how can i do so that when break internet connection from phone line
or modem packet driver automatically release from memory, if it possible?


thanks.
regard, vladimir.

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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 02:47:50 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:55:23 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:00:05 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

>> Maybe you misunderstand me. Due to laziness my email index frequently
>> has around two hundred old messages in it. Then I download new ones,

> Hmmm... why would you want to keep all those messages in the Inbox, and
> then add MORE???? If you're ever going to read the older ones, you
> should do it BEFORE you download the new ones, IMO.

> Otherwise they get so old they are no longer relevant, so you might as
> well right-click on them and delete them now.

>> Usually I do something else during downloads, so they don't bother
>> me. And I don't want to bother with a two step procedure of
>> downloading headers and then messages. But that's my preferance.

> It is already a two step procedure to first scan the mail to delete the
> spam and then come back later to read/answer the rest.

I am experimenting with the markasold feature and it seems to make the
sorting out easier... not bothering the whole bunch of mail already in
the inbox. Now I heve just to deal with the new ones.

> The advantage in deleting the spam BEFORE the download is that it saves
> download time and disk space. But the disk space is reclaimed anyway when
> you delete the spam after the download.

When I am away for a while a huge pile of mail is waiting and my
provider let me see (and delete) on a webmail basis what is in the
mailbox... but I have to use win ;-)
This takes a lot of time with on line reading and on a daily basis with
not that much messages to handle the download time is fare less than to
on line viewing and deleting the unwanted messages.

CU, Bastiaan

> from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
> "Queen City of the South"  34:55S  138:36E
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm

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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 02:46:15 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: Faxmodems

I was afraid of that, especialy the handling of the tones used for
handshaking. How should a not faxmodem create those tones?

Besides, a faxmodem has to pick up the phone if a faxmachine is calling.

Regards, Bastiaan

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:01:03 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:41:12 +0900, Kali Mclaughlin wrote:

>> Dear List
>>>> Does anyone know if a faxmodem for the computer is a special one?

>>> I don't think so.  If the modem part works on your
>>> computer, the fax part should too.

>> I dont think this is correct. I have had modems which would not send
>> faxes. It is not just a matter of speed as I have a 2.4KB internal which
>> will, and a real Hayes 14.4 which wont. I think I have a netcom 9.6KB
>> machine which wont also.

> Look on the front of the modem, or the box it came in. If it says "Fax
> modem" it will send faxes with the right software. Otherwise it can't as
> the control tones and protocols are quite different.

> And even if it is the right modem, the FAX software is quite different
> from the usual communications or internet software.

> from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
> "Queen City of the South"  34:55S  138:36E
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm

> -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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