arachne-digest        Wednesday, July 9 2003        Volume 01 : Number 2176




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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:07:27 +0200
From: "Michal H. Tyc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads

Hello,

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:27:28 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> Oops.... I missed a step. :(

> Add "QUIT" as the last step for each of the above cases.

> (the last one becomes)

> 1) USER   (anonymous)
> 2) PASS   (your email address)
> 3) TYPE I (set transfer type to BINARY)
> 4) RETR   (to download the ISO CDROM image)
> 5) QUIT

I remember that quite long time ago I had a problem with one of
FTP servers. It looked like the QUIT command wasn't sent at all:
the server was always showing the number of actually connected
users and their limit. With every click in Arachne (to change
directory or get a file) the number of connected users increased
by one until it reached the limit (which was quite small). Then
I was unable to do anything more, I had to wait some time (until
I got automatically disconnected?).

This behavior was reproducible, but only with this particular
server. Unfortunately, I don't remember what kind of software
was running on this server; its OS was some kind of Un*x, so it
wasn't Micros**t IIS ;-)  I don't even remeber what version of
Arachne I was using at that time.

It cannot be reproduced with current Arachne and current
configuration of the server (the only user-visible changes
are the greeting messages and user number limit, which is now
quite big: 90).

Do you have any idea what caused such a strange behavior?

An idea: could QUIT be intelligently avoided between subsequent
FTP transactions? Re-logging in often takes quite long time
(looking at the status line messages), even when download speeds
are very good.

Michal

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:43:29 +0200
From: "Michal H. Tyc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deletion of messages from POP3 server?

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:00:48 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> Questions:

> When you delete some messages from your ISP's POP3 server, are the
> messages usually automagically moved to some other storage media
> maintained by your ISP before they are actually deleted from the
> POP3 server?
> I have always wondered if the messages you delete from the POP3
> server get saved somewhere else or whether they go to never-never
> land.

There is a file on the server that keeps all contents of your mailbox
(all messages in a chain, like in mail folders on your local hard disk
with Netscape Mail or some other e-mail clients; Arachne is an exception).
When you send 'DELE n' command to the PO3 server, n-th message is
removed from that mailbox file and no backup copy of it is created,
as far as I know.

> Is there any way you can retrieve some messges you have accidentally
> deleted from your POP3 server?  If it is at all possible to retrieve
> them, it most likely would require some help by your ISP's technical
> support people.  Is it possible to retrieve them if your ISP is willing
> to help?  If it is possible to retrieve them, would it involve a great
> deal of work by the technical support people?

I don't think it's possible. At least it's much harder than undeleting
a file under DOS.

Michal

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:00:23 +0200
From: "Michal H. Tyc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:41:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> Further evidence of the "M$ connection" :(((

> <TITLE>Page information for http://home.hetnet.nl/default.htm</TITLE><PRE>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0

I can't currently prove whether Micros**t IIS is responsible
for the problems with Arachne's built-in FTP or not, but
I have a proof that at least some IIS servers don't work with
Arachne's HTTP when the Keep-alive option is turned on 
(URL="http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/";) -- Error 406 is returned:

<TITLE>Page information for 
http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/intibs_ang.html</TITLE><PRE>
HTTP/1.1 406
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:23:13 GMT
Connection: keep-alive

When Keep-alive is off, the URL works. But page information
still shows "keep-alive".

<TITLE>Page information for
http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/?lang=en&;</TITLE><PRE>
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:35:14 GMT
Connection: Keep-Alive

What's going on?

Michal

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:07:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson)
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

>
>On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:10:46 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:
>
>> Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>
>> .. > Go for it. ;-)
>
>> .. > I'll bet a weeks pay check that you can't prove me wrong.
>
>> How much is it?
>
>> If it's anything like mine, it isn't worth the effort <G>.
>
>Since all of us on this list seem to quite fond of 'free software'.....
>
>You may draw your own conclusions. ;-)
>
>
>
>--
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>
>

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:30:26 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:00:23 +0200, Michal H. Tyc wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:41:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Further evidence of the "M$ connection" :(((

>> <TITLE>Page information for http://home.hetnet.nl/default.htm</TITLE><PRE>
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0

> I can't currently prove whether Micros**t IIS is responsible
> for the problems with Arachne's built-in FTP or not, but
> I have a proof that at least some IIS servers don't work with
> Arachne's HTTP when the Keep-alive option is turned on
> (URL="http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/";) -- Error 406 is returned:

> <TITLE>Page information for
> http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/intibs_ang.html</TITLE><PRE>
> HTTP/1.1 406
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:23:13 GMT
> Connection: keep-alive

> When Keep-alive is off, the URL works. But page information
> still shows "keep-alive".

> <TITLE>Page information for
> http://www.int.pan.wroc.pl/?lang=en&;</TITLE><PRE>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:35:14 GMT
> Connection: Keep-Alive
c2ND!
> What's going on?

This is yet another example of the M$ conspirocy to take over
the WWW (all aspects of it... HTTP, FTP, etc, etc), by re-writing
the 'standards' that have been used for many years.

If your browser, FTP client, email client, etc, etc, does not conform to
the new "M$ standard"... you are barred from visiting that site. :((




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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:39:15 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:07:41 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson) wrote:


>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:10:46 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:

>>> Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>> .. > Go for it. ;-)

>>> .. > I'll bet a weeks pay check that you can't prove me wrong.

>>> How much is it?

>>> If it's anything like mine, it isn't worth the effort <G>.

>> Since all of us on this list seem to quite fond of 'free software'.....

>> You may draw your own conclusions. ;-)

>> --
>> Glenn
>> http://arachne.cz/
>> http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
>> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
>> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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>        `~(*)~~~~(*)~'      `````````````````````````


Eric,
Did you intend to include a reply but forgot to ?

Or was your reply lost somewhere along the way ?
(perhaps a glitch in the matrix) ;-)


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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:54:29 +1000
From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

Hi Folks,

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Most likely...
>> The world-as-we-know-it would come to a screaching halt. ;-)

> I doubt it. Voting in Fed and State elections is compulsory in
> Australia, and I suspect we are the better for it <G>

   Well, we would be if we had worthwhile people to vote for.

   Unfortunately, the only folks who turn up as candidates .... are
politicians !    Our (compulsory) choice is between different flavours
of dishonesty.    :(

   And dishonesty has been elevated to an elite artform in Australian
politics over the last few years.  I think we must be nearly caught up,
in that regard, to some other countries represented on this list.

   Or am I just an old cynic ?

Regards,
         Ron



Ron Clarke
AUSREG Consultancy http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/index.html
Tadpole Tunes      http://tadpole.mytunebook.de/
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:02:32 +1000
From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with .DOC files

Hi Folks,

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 09:55:05 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:
> BTW, here is an extract from the HTML dump of that page, for a laugh.
> Note where the DOS version was tested, and the comments in the beginning
> of the next section ;-)

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Note that this version of Antiword has only been tested on:
> A DOS box of Windows NT4

  Yes, I saw that too, and more than a year ago I emailed the author and 
let him know it works for me in MSDOS too.  No one had told him that 
before, it seems.

Regards,
        Ron



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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:05:34 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:47:17 -0930, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:30:26 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:00:23 +0200, Michal H. Tyc wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:41:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>>> Further evidence of the "M$ connection" :(((

>>> What's going on?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> This is yet another example of the M$ conspirocy to take over
>> the WWW (all aspects of it... HTTP, FTP, etc, etc), by re-writing
>> the 'standards' that have been used for many years.

>> If your browser, FTP client, email client, etc, etc, does not conform to
>> the new "M$ standard"... you are barred from visiting that site. :((

> I have not tried FTP, yet, but have started using a browser at
>             http://www.alltheweb.com
> and have found it has some nice [for me, collecting jpegs] features. One
> can select to view JUST the pictures. But I also note there is an "FTP
> address only" option.

> It may be of interest. I find that this browser seems to access a lot
> more places than Google or Yahoo...

Please, have a closer look at what they advocate.

They advovcate 'upgradeing' to one of the bloatware browsers.

So that you too, will conform to the 'new standrds'.

To them and to the notion that we must continually 'upgrade' to the
"latest/greatest" PIECE OF CRAP THAT M$ IS SHOVING DOWN OUR THROATS,

I have but a few simple words to say...........

NO, I WILL NOT DO IT !!!!!!!!



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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:51:43 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:57:04 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> I just did a little "digging" and found the problem.
> (it's Bill Gates fault)
> IMO,
> The evidence is overwhelming.
> 5 FTP servers, 4 work fine, 1 does not.
> The 1 which does not....
> Is also the only one that's using MicroSoft FTP server.

> 2 tests needed to prove me wrong........
> 1) Find a "non-Microsoft" server that gives us these same problems.
> 2) Find a MicroSoft server that works correctly.
> ------------------
> Go for it. ;-)
> I'll bet a weeks pay check that you can't prove me wrong.

No bet. I'm more interested in finding a solution.

So what do you suggest:

a) We email Big Bill, getting him to change his software to accomodate
   Arachne, then getting all the people using his present version to
   upgrade?

or

b) We, the Arachne users group, try to find a way of making Arachne
   accept the Micro$not version?

Please write you answers on the back of envelope containing $10 and mail
it to me. If solution a) please include the Bill gate's email address
and the address of all persons current using the Micro$losh FTP server.

Greg


- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:57:27 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inbox and Outbox

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:21:03 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:


> Press 'I'
> Press F6
> Do you see the line these lines very near the top ???

> <BODY ARACHNE NORESIZE>     <----- yes
> <arachne nocache>           <----- no
> <TABLE WIDTH=100%>          <----- yes

> Edit idxfast.htp and idxhead.htp
> Just below <body arachne noresize> add this line.
> <arachne nocache>
> There you go:
> No more "old indexes". :)))

Thanks, I'll do that.

Greg

- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:07:56 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:30:26 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:


> This is yet another example of the M$ conspirocy to take over
> the WWW (all aspects of it... HTTP, FTP, etc, etc), by re-writing
> the 'standards' that have been used for many years.

> If your browser, FTP client, email client, etc, etc, does not conform to
> the new "M$ standard"... you are barred from visiting that site. :((

So have you tried emailing Micro$ucks to explain the problem? <G>

Greg

- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:47:51 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:51:43 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:57:04 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> I just did a little "digging" and found the problem.
>> (it's Bill Gates fault)
>> IMO,
>> The evidence is overwhelming.
>> 5 FTP servers, 4 work fine, 1 does not.
>> The 1 which does not....
>> Is also the only one that's using MicroSoft FTP server.

>> 2 tests needed to prove me wrong........
>> 1) Find a "non-Microsoft" server that gives us these same problems.
>> 2) Find a MicroSoft server that works correctly.
>> ------------------
>> Go for it. ;-)
>> I'll bet a weeks pay check that you can't prove me wrong.

> No bet. I'm more interested in finding a solution.

> So what do you suggest:

> a) We email Big Bill, getting him to change his software to accomodate
> Arachne, then getting all the people using his present version to
> upgrade?

> or

> b) We, the Arachne users group, try to find a way of making Arachne
> accept the Micro$not version?
jGates fault)
> Please write you answers on the back of envelope containing $10 and mail
> it to me. If solution a) please include the Bill gate's email address
> and the address of all persons current using the Micro$losh FTP server.

Solution C) Boycott *all* sites which use M$ servers.

My $10 donation will now be made to the All browser campaign.


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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:56:35 -0400
From: "Henry Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deletion of messages from POP3 server?

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> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:00:48 -0500
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Deletion of messages from POP3 server?
> 
> Questions:
> 
> When you delete some messages from your ISP's POP3 server, are the
> messages usually automagically moved to some other storage media
> maintained by your ISP before they are actually deleted from the POP3
> server?
> 
> I have always wondered if the messages you delete from the POP3
> server get saved somewhere else or whether they go to never-never
> land.
> 
> Is there any way you can retrieve some messges you have accidentally
> deleted from your POP3 server?  If it is at all possible to retrieve
> them, it most likely would require some help by your ISP's technical
> support people.  Is it possible to retrieve them if your ISP is
> willing to help?  If it is possible to retrieve them, would it involve
> a great deal of work by the technical support people?
> 
> Sam Heywood
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Hi, Sam:

As I remember the RFC for POP mail, it is only when you send the 
"disconnect" (quit?) signal to the server that the "deleted" messages 
are actually gone to their reward.  Until  then, they are still 
stored, and marked for deletion.  I would have to re-read the RFC to 
get the command, but the "deleted" messages can be retrieved if you 
do it before signing off.

Henry Carmichael

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:58:03 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inbox and Outbox

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 10:57:27 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:21:03 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Press 'I'
>> Press F6
>> Do you see these lines very near the top ???

>> <BODY ARACHNE NORESIZE>     <----- yes
>> <arachne nocache>           <----- no
>> <TABLE WIDTH=100%>          <----- yes

>> Edit idxfast.htp and idxhead.htp
>> Just below <body arachne noresize> add this line.
>> <arachne nocache>
>> There you go:
>> No more "old indexes". :)))

> Thanks, I'll do that.

There was your problem.

The IDX file included in the original dowload of v1.71 *did* have
that nocache line in it.

Did you by-chance edit the file to remove the nocache line
so that the index would stop reloading every time you hit "I" ?

To speed things up when the inbox had a very large number
of messages in it ????

I ask this because I can't remember now how many different people
did this back during the disussion about several hundred old emails
still left in the inbox.
(nor can I remember who each of them were) :(((


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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:56:14 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deletion of messages from POP3 server?

On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:43:29 +0200, Michal H. Tyc wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:00:48 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

<snip>

> There is a file on the server that keeps all contents of your mailbox
> (all messages in a chain, like in mail folders on your local hard disk
> with Netscape Mail or some other e-mail clients; Arachne is an exception).

<snip>

I know of at least one DOS internet application that keeps all your
emails in one long concatenated file on your hard disk or on a floppy
drive or on any other compatible and user-specified storage media on
your local system.  This DOS internet application is Net-Tamer.  There
may be others.

Sam Heywood

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 23:00:37 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Already found the reason for the war ?

On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:54:29 +1000, Ron Clarke wrote:

> Hi Folks,

> On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:31:41 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

>> On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:29:38 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>> Most likely...
>>> The world-as-we-know-it would come to a screaching halt. ;-)

>> I doubt it. Voting in Fed and State elections is compulsory in
>> Australia, and I suspect we are the better for it <G>

> Well, we would be if we had worthwhile people to vote for.

> Unfortunately, the only folks who turn up as candidates .... are
> politicians !    Our (compulsory) choice is between different flavours
> of dishonesty.    :(

> And dishonesty has been elevated to an elite artform in Australian
> politics over the last few years.  I think we must be nearly caught up,
> in that regard, to some other countries represented on this list.

> Or am I just an old cynic ?

> Regards,
>     Ron

Voting should not be compulsory in any country.  In some of the
elections here I don't vote because all of the candidates are
equally bad and it doesn't make any difference to me as to who
wins or loses.  Why should I vote in an election like that?  I
never vote unless in my opinion there are some candidates on the
ballot who aren't quite so bad as the rest of the scoundrels.
Around here there are many voters who say they always vote against
the incumbents by voting for the candidates who seem to have the
best chance of defeating them.  Those kinds of voters don't even
care whatever are the party affiliations of the incumbents, nor do
they care about the party affiliations of their opponents.  Their
political philosophy is very simple.  They just think that the
incumbents should always be voted out and their strongest opponents
voted in.  A very significant number of all the votes cast in any
democratic election are the votes of the anti-incumbents.

Sam Heywood
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 04:38:29 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GIF2TXT converter, and even GIF to colorized HTML!

http://www.degraeve.com

COOL!

Sam Heywood
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:00:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Klaus Hameyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP URLs in A166 vs A171

>Did you already have a line in arachne.cfg for "UseFTPproxy Yes/No" ??
 
No, I did not.

>OK, try this.
>Save your current arachne.cfg file (v1.71) via use of the
>'saved profiles function'.
>On the dialer page... link to "Profile" (just above "Phone number")
>Change the name shown in the entry field to "klaus.acf" and then
>link to the "Save profile" button.
>Now, copy your arachne.cfg file (v1.66) over top of the current one
>in the v1.71 directory.
>See what happens now when try to access that FTP site.

I presume this is the GUI equivalent of using the A166 config
with A171. And YES, this works fine.

A line by line comparison of A166.cfg and A171.cfg shows them to be
exactly the same except for the following:

DialPage file:pppglenn.htm (A171)  /   file:ppp_init.htm (A166)
TimeZone (trivial, I believe)
Index *.* (A171)  /  Index *.htm (A166)...could this be the problem?
CSS Yes   (A171)  /  No such line in A166... or might it be this?

(I tried switching, but to no effect)

Sincerely,
Klaus Hameyer
Burlington, VT (USA)

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:49:06 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RS232 Tester (was "Arachne's FTP uploads")

Yes, I made already a blinking lights hardware tester... but that lights
are flickering very fast and do not register the RX and TX signals.
That's where the software commes in...

CU, Bastiaan


On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:38:42 -0700, Rick Orr wrote:

>> The RS232 tester is a prog in DOS

> Interesting .. I have a "RS232 tester" in actual hardware form, plugs
> in, blinking lights to note transmission progress [or not] ... pretty
> cool :-)

> DOS prog could be utile.

>       later,
>               rick

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 02:38:26 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne's FTP uploads = OK, but...

>> Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> .. > Go for it. ;-)

>> .. > I'll bet a weeks pay check that you can't prove me wrong.

Well, after trying for several hours to get the ftp hetnet site running
from Arachne... I decided to stop trying for the time being.

You made your point Glenn and as we all know M$ and Arachne do not fit.

Spying on the modem signal did give the following results (connected to 
the ftp site with Windows Commander).

CONNECT 48000/V42BIS
MB("Welkom bij HetNet")
Microsoft FTP Service (Version 5.0)
Password required for ba8tian   [password was entered from keyboard]
230-Welkom op de FTP-server van Hetnet
#230 User ba8tian logged in
215 Windows_NT version 5.0
250 CWD command successful
257 "/" is current directory
200 Type set to A
200 Port command successful

Now the directory list did follow and I choose diversen.htm for download

Opening BINAIRY mode data connection for diversen.htm

Now the file was downloaded

etcetera, etcetera

******************************** Pitty M$ does not like Arachne

Thanks for investingating Glenn, 
Regards, Bastiaan
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