arachne-digest         Friday, August 1 2003         Volume 01 : Number 2193




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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:48:57 +0300
From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DELTREE C:\WINDOWS

I assume at least the DLLs in use by various applications  will fail to
erase, but I am not sure.


Pe data de Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:30:52 -0500
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a scris:

> In my experience I have always found that this command always works 
> flawlessly for curing one's Windows computer of all operating system 
> problems if one runs the command after starting up his computer and 
> selecting the most preferred option, i.e., to boot to DOS.
> 
> I have never ywt tried running the command from within a so-called
> "DOS-box", or from within a "DOS-window", if you prefer.
> 
> Question:
> 
> Will running this command also work just as well if one runs it from 
> within a "DOS-box"?  Has anyone here ever tried doing that?  Did you
> get the desired results?
> 
> Sam Heywood
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:53:20 +0200
From: "Michal H. Tyc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DELTREE C:\WINDOWS

Hello Sam,

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:30:52 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> Will running this command also work just as well if one runs it from
> within a "DOS-box"?  Has anyone here ever tried doing that?  Did you
> get the desired results?

I never tried (yes, I did DELTREE C:\WINDOWS a few times, when I
needed to reinstall it from scratch, but always after booting from
diskette). I think it won't work (won't complete its job) when
executed from DOS window, because there are files that cannot be
deleted, as they are in use (e.g., swapfile).

Greetings,

Michal

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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:35:29 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FORMATTING...

Hi List,
         I made a new partition on my HD and before taking this into
service one has to format it.

The partition is 466Mb and after giving "FORMAT E:"
the computer started by first repairing the clusters.
I never had any computer do this.

If I am rightly informed a cluster is 512 bytes or 0.512Kb
The computer or HD is doing about 6000 clusters/hour so for 466Mb it
will take about 150 hours = 6 days :-( :-(

Does this sound familiar to any one???

Regards, Bastiaan

Count is now 47,000 cluster in 7:30 hours.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:11:49 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FORMATTING...

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:35:29 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> Hi List,
>     I made a new partition on my HD and before taking this into
> service one has to format it.

> The partition is 466Mb and after giving "FORMAT E:"
> the computer started by first repairing the clusters.
> I never had any computer do this.

> If I am rightly informed a cluster is 512 bytes or 0.512Kb
> The computer or HD is doing about 6000 clusters/hour so for 466Mb it
> will take about 150 hours = 6 days :-( :-(

> Does this sound familiar to any one???

> Regards, Bastiaan

> Count is now 47,000 cluster in 7:30 hours.

Something is very wrong.

A 466MB partition shold not take more than 15 minutes to format.

I just happen to have an empty partition of about that size
that I can test this on.

BRB


WOW !!! Waa I ever wrong on THAT time estimate.

- ---- formtest.bat ---
chkdsk h:\>l:\ftest-1.txt
format /a /u /x /v:formattest1 h:
chkdsk h:\>l:\ftest-2.txt
dir l:\>l:\ftest-3.txt
copy l:\ftest-1.txt + l:\ftest-2.txt + l:\ftest-3.txt l:\ftest-4.txt
_____________________

- ---- the resulting ftest-4.txt ----
WARNING:  Redirecting CHKDSK output to a file
on the same drive that is being checked, can result
in CHKDSK reporting additional errors.

Volume in drive H: does not have a label
Volume Serial Number is 1BD5-142D

  468,336,640 bytes total disk space.
  468,336,640 bytes available on disk.

        8,192 bytes in allocation unit.
       57,170 total allocation units on disk.
       57,170 available allocation units on disk.

      655,360 total bytes of memory.
      643,728 total bytes of free memory.
      643,248 bytes in largest free memory block.

Unable to locate h:\.WARNING:  Redirecting CHKDSK output to a file
on the same drive that is being checked, can result
in CHKDSK reporting additional errors.

Volume FORMATTEST1 created Jul-30-2003 20:08
Volume Serial Number is 1BDB-3277

  468,336,640 bytes total disk space.
  468,336,640 bytes available on disk.

        8,192 bytes in allocation unit.
       57,170 total allocation units on disk.
       57,170 available allocation units on disk.

      655,360 total bytes of memory.
      643,728 total bytes of free memory.
      643,248 bytes in largest free memory block.

Unable to locate h:\.
 Volume in drive L is MS-RAMDRIVE
 Directory of  L:\

COMMAND  COM    55077  2-27-97  7:01a
TEMP         <DIR>     7-30-03  7:19p
ARACHNE      <DIR>     7-30-03  7:19p
FORMTEST BAT      183  7-30-03  8:06p
FTEST-1  TXT      598  7-30-03  8:06p
FTEST-2  TXT      602  7-30-03  8:08p
FTEST-3  TXT        0  7-30-03  8:08p
        7 File(s)  60601344 bytes free
___________________________________

As you can see.... 2 minutes was all it took.


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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 02:33:10 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FORMATTING...

Hi Glenn,

Yes, a few minutes was what I expected for the formatting of 467Mb.
But I never saw 'FORMAT' saying that is was going to repair the clusters
first... not stating what was actually going to be repared and not how
long that would take.

Perhaps this has something to do with: "write protect error writing
fixed disk" as stated by FDISK when I made the partition.
Did repairing the clusters meant 'removing the write protection'?
I wonder.

Anyway I started the formatting and 7.5 hours later  47,000 clusters
were repaired and I went to bed.
This morning the partition was ready and formatted. So after all it did
not take 6 days but between 7.5 and 16 hours.

***************************** A few hours later...

I tried to use the formatted partition and could write just aprox 1Mb to
the new partition... disk full, 0 bites left :-((
The command "FORMAT E: /s" was given and format is repairing the
clusters again. I hope the computer is ready in the morning... now I am
going to bed.

I do not realy need this harddisk but this is intruiging, isn't it?

**************************************************

Am I right that 467Mb contains aprox. 911.250 clusters? So we have to
conclude that not all the clusters have to be repaired...

I still have to format a 6Gb HD... 72 days??

Regards, Bastiaan

BTW: computer is a pentium II @ 400MHz.
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