arachne-digest Monday, August 11 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2205
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0930 From: "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:53:51 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >> Somehow Arachne needs to become a "project" that will attract >> new talent and an influx of ability and energy. > An excellent idea! Now if we could only get Michael to agree. Or even > answer our mail. It seems he is much too busy with other projects to > bother with Arachne. To me, Michael seems to be acting quite paternally sane in not releasing his codes etc. Would you allow a mob of squabbling children loose at your bank account? [That may be a slightly awry analogy. Maybe vintage wine collection, or collection of sports memorabilia would be better!] Until WE, the users, can work out what we would like Arachne to do, and write up some sort of plan on how to get there, he would be the safest person to have the codes in safekeeping. >> There is a large pool of DOS programmers involved in the FreeDOS >> project--perhaps Arachne can become integrated into that >> community as the "FreeDOS web browser". >> Something like that has to happen for Arachne to evolve further >> and become more capable. One facility that I would like incorporated into Arachne is something like http://www.mail2web.com/ where one can "see" the waiting mail [whether it be one your current ISP or at another address] and then choose to delete it BEFORE downloading it to reply. I have had several 300Mb messages sent to me, and with limited space and a slow modem I have had to shell and delete some programs to make space to download this mail, only to delete it instantly. Arachne is ideal for people with small HDD's, and selective download of mail would be an advantage, IMO. [Heck, I know people who do not even have 300Mb HDD's, and presume that this size message would just halt their access to their mail] Oh, I've brewed to long. I'll just go back into the coffee pot! Cheers! Cooee and Love, Kevin... XXXXXXXXXXX = in chilly Adelaide, South Australia, South Australia Gourmet Capital of the world = - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:07:03 -0930 From: "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another Arachne incompatibility On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:52:00 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >> Since it *IS* a fact that MS continually adjusts its code to make >> itself the only safteware available that recognizes the new MS satadard. > Hmmm... there's an inconsistency there. > If M$ adjusts the code, they have to get the ISPs to upgrade their > server software to the new versions -- not so hard to do as free updates > to all such customers are usually taken up. > But then they have to get the home users to upgrade their client > software to work with the upgraded servers. Not such an easy thing to do > as a lot of the people are using outdated W98, W95 or even W3x software. > And often these people won't take up offers of free upgrades. > And please note that it _WAS_ possible to make connection to the > EnableNet site with Netscape 3 (1996 release) and Opera 3.62 (1998), > running on Win 3.11. Both of these browsers are the exact same versions > that I originnaly downloaded several years ago. No upgrades there. > The version of Lynx for DOS version that also got me in is dated 1999. > For what it's worth, below is the relevant part of the Lynx Cookies > file, that connected me successfully to EnableNet. > Does Arachne need to change the format of its cookies, or what? > extract of LYNX\COOKIES.TXT ================================================= > www.enable.net.au FALSE / FALSE 2137622400 CFID 413432 > www.enable.net.au FALSE / FALSE 2137622400 CFTOKEN 76670880 > ============================================================================= Cooee Greg!!! I was given the task of writing this FAQ sheet for users of the Disability- orientated Enablenet. =================================================================== Arachne poses a slight problem accessing Enablenet. It throws an extra space and semi-colon ( ;) into the COOKIES.LST file. So, in order to get around that problem, we have to first call up the URL <1> http://www.enable.net.au/ <2> Then, shelling out to DOS [Alt E]. <3> Call up your editor and open the COOKIES.LST file in the ARACHNE directory. Then either do a search for ( ;) [without the brackets] and replace with nothing ()] or look for the enable.net.au line, and manually remove the extra ( ;) in the cookie line. WARNING: There may be two or more instances of this! <4> Save, and close your editor, and then type EXIT to return to the Arachne program. <5> Call up the above URL again [you should still be there], and go to LOGIN, and type your login name and password. You should have no problems getting into the site again during your current on-line session. But remember, unfortunately you may have to do this every time that you first visit Enable.net of each session. But you should be able to log-in and out without problems during that session. Good luck! Happy Surfing Arachnoids! Kevin JCJD Symons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ==================================================================== There, that should be simple enough for most people to understand. [I hope!] Cooee and Love, Kevin... XXXXXXXXXXX = in chilly Adelaide, South Australia, South Australia Gourmet Capital of the world = - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:36:38 -0400 From: "l.d.best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: LD sticks a toe in (Re: Comments on Glenn Hopefully this message will show MY e-dress as the source .. having to use webmail at present on w2k platform has led to some strange happenings .... Just wanted to let you know that even if "M$ takes over the entire world of the internet" they won't own it. I know (don't ask how) that there is a LARGE international group out there with a prime goal of circumventing M$ spys/control/access embedded in their software, and these people ain't slouches!! AND they use their own servers ranging from teeny tiny to multi-terrabytes multi-processor ones that would rival my "pro" ISP. Direct connect, keep the info going and flowing ... The net is there, the access is there, most of it can't be traced or stopped, and M$ can't do a damn thing about it. There's an old saying about how difficult it is to close a door once it's been opened. I don't think any nation, any corporation, will ever be able to close the door on the internet. l.d. - ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Although I agree with the core of your argument, I think > it's misplaced. The dialog is bigger than just javascript > or the *evil schemes of a corporate giant*. The fight > isn't against M$ or for Arachne - it's a fight to allow > people the freedom to communicate. > > That's a battle I'd be willing to join. > > Butyl Bob, the organic radical > (doesn't that take you back a few months?) - ----------------------------------------------------------- GO Concepts Inc. / 1-888-ON-GO-YET / www.go-concepts.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:40:09 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: > Hi all, specially Glenn, > Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version of Arachne? I'm > re-furbing my old arachne4dos website and want to update a few bits of the info? >From what I have been able to tell.... Linux Arachne is dead. As-is Michael's planned devevolpment of Arachne v2.x > And also, the current 1,71 version is downloadable from you (Glenn that is) and > anywhere else? Nope.... not available anywhere else. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:46:06 -0400 From: "l.d.best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: LD again ...Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? Don't bet that the community is that small. <MG> Once Arachne is released so we can do legit work on it, there can be more qualified people show up out of the blue. We're not the only ones who think M$ has an area code of 666 ... l.d. - ----- Original Message Follows ----- > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:26:03 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Yes, the problem is that we are a small community, which > necessarily means a smaller pool of talent to draw on. > > More participants means more ideas and/or solutions. > > Not only that, more participants means many more > opportunities for partial solutions to come together to > give a successful result. > > This is what we really need!!! > > Greg > > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, > http://arachne.cz/ > > - ----------------------------------------------------------- GO Concepts Inc. / 1-888-ON-GO-YET / www.go-concepts.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:51:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: > > > Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version of Arachne? > Linux Arachne is dead. CRAP!!! No hope? Rob: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:26:11 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] How do the spamhauses conduct their operations? On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:43:20 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:45:07 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Hello List: >> Can anyone please refer me to an authoritative URL that explains >> how the spamhauses conduct their operations? > Thinking of going into business, Sam? <G> Pretending to go into business as a spammer would be the very best way to find out how they operate. I did that once with the world of "mail order opportunities". Quite an education! What I discovered is that the real money was being made by the people who serviced this huge sub-culture of "opportunity seekers" with mailing lists and materials. The prime seller was books and tapes advising how other people could get into the business!! Dreamers who want to get rich without effort were ready to fork over their cash to "experts" who would show them how to make a killing the easy way. There were tons of people trying to promote the same cheesy offers such as chain letters and pyramid schemes. "Hello, my name is Dave Rhodes" began one infamous chain letter that I once got by the hundreds. I bet spam is the same way. The "consultants" and "experts" make money selling CD's of email addresses and how to books to the great army of clueless dreamers who clog our inboxes with endless varieties of the same offer. That's where the money is. So, set up a seperate account and answer all the spam you get and see what happens over three or four months. You'll start to see what's going on after awhile. It's not what you think at all. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:35:28 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LD sticks a toe in (Re: Comments on Glenn On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:36:38 -0400, "l.d.best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to let you know that even if "M$ takes over the > entire world of the internet" they won't own it. I know > (don't ask how) that there is a LARGE international group > out there with a prime goal of circumventing M$ > spys/control/access embedded in their software, and these > people ain't slouches!! AND they use their own servers > ranging from teeny tiny to multi-terrabytes multi-processor > ones that would rival my "pro" ISP. Direct connect, keep > the info going and flowing ... That's exactly right, L.D. Even in the commercial world there are many who are ardently anti MS. There's lots of support there, too. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:23:10 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Comments on Glenn's Ranting and Raving On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 15:58:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Although I agree with the core of your argument, I think it's misplaced. > The dialog is bigger than just javascript or the *evil schemes of a > corporate giant*. The fight isn't against M$ or for Arachne - it's a > fight to allow people the freedom to communicate. > That's a battle I'd be willing to join. Many good points, Bob. People are going to find ways to communicate no matter what. The need to communicate will engender the technical ability to communicate. Back before most home users had Internet access there was Fidonet--an entirely voluntary and worldwide communication network that functioned quite remarkably. So I think if one channel gets blocked by proprietary foolishness then other channels will arise. The whole thing will continue to mutate, perhaps into multiple channels--some free, some proprietary. It may not be just one thing, just one way. But people are going to find ways. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:42:37 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: what is the current situation regarding the Linux version of Arachne? Nothing was done with the Linux version of Arachne after the initial release. It was never improved or updated. It's dead. Michael has said that he "is working" on an Arachne version 2.00 which would be entirely new, designed especially for Linux and perhaps portable to other platforms via what he's called a "flowerpot" concept. The status of version 2.00 is unknown. My guess is that it never got out of the planning stage and is probably also dead. I don't think Michael has the time to program anymore. The current version of Arachne for DOS is available only at Glenn's website. 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Since his mind was made up and > he wouldn't be swayed by facts, I dropped the subject and manually removed > one of the "../" each time I visited the web site. More recently, things Never try to teach an "expert" his job. He will always have a good objection to your arguments. Of course if he is wrong, he will HATE you for it! > appear to have changed and the site is accessible by Arachne without any > manual editing of the source page. That just goes to show how Arachne has changed to meet that expert's requirements <G> > If a double ";" is not standard in a cookie, it should be easy to counter. > Just do a search and replace in a cookie for two ;'s and replace it with > one. But Arachne would have to do this as it receives cookies, while M$ > only has to do it when it reads cookies. Yes, I can probably write a macro for one of my text editors to do that. But it would mean shelling out to DOS, or at least calling the editor from an OOK *every* time to do this. The strange thing is that Lynx's cookie file doesn't have this problem. Is it something to do with the way Arachne saves the cookies? Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:12:33 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc... On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:47:43 -0600, Glenn Gilbreath Jr. wrote: > Hello Fellow Arachnephobes! Ain't no arachnephobes here, matey! We are all Arachnemanes (-maniacs?). > 3. Install and use Arachne 1.71 UE01...if your ISP will not provide you with > the needed settings to get connected, FIRE THEIR ASS! Get another ISP dammit! There are You ring their help line and ask: (a) do I need a fixed IP address or is it dynamic? (b) what DNS name servers do I need? Have nothing to do with the ISPs who want to send you a floppy with an automatic setup program. > "a spade a spade". It does absolutely no good to chit-chat amongst ourselves > about our inability to access this or that on the web with Arachne. Agreed! Instead of talking about what is wrong, we should be looking for ways to get Arachne to work around these problems. Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:42:53 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc... On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:13:29 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > If it were true that that Micro$oft were involved with protecting > US "national security" interests, then why haven't they fixed the > security problems with Hotmail? Maybe the security forces want Hotmail insecure so they can access anyone's email... Didn't I hear something on the news a month or two back about US security wanting to access everyone's email? Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:57:26 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne 1.71's colour display On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:10:52 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > 1) hit F1 > 2) link to "How to use Arachne to optimize colors" > 3) link to "Video Setup" > 4) choose "Vesa compatible card or driver" on left > and "800x600 1MB HiColor" on right > 5) link to "Try selected graphics mode" Just be sure that this is a graphics mode that works for you. If it isn't you may be locked out of Arachne, and have to rerun "setup" to restore it to a working situation. Would you still be able to pick up the online connection after this? I don't know. 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