arachne-digest Tuesday, August 12 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2206
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:18:42 -0700 From: Mel Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:40:09 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >�On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: > > >>�Hi all, specially Glenn, >> > >>�Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version >>�of Arachne? I'm re-furbing my old arachne4dos website and want to >>�update a few bits of the info? >> > >>�From what I have been able to tell.... >�Linux Arachne is dead. > > >�As-is Michael's planned devevolpment of Arachne v2.x > > >>�And also, the current 1,71 version is downloadable from you >>�(Glenn that is) and anywhere else? >> > >�Nope.... not available anywhere else. I'm now going to be a bit simplistic here maybe! We all agree that Glenn is doing/has done a great job moving arachne on to 1.71 UE under his own steam? YES! Michael is too busy to develop either arachne DOS or linux? YES? We know Glenn has 1.73 up and running and we would all like a copy? MOST LIKELY YES!? Could we all gather together a list of known e-mail addresses for Michael and if everyone of us on the list ask Michael nicely, "Can you authorise Glenn to move on? PLEASE?" Seems to me it's worth a try! If we ALL do it, to ALL the addresses, at more or less the same time? With best wishes and regards From [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.webtheon.co.uk http://www.xetronella.com http://www.bccscotland.org.uk Designing and building websites for the leisure and sports goods industries. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 06:23:22 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:56:44 +0900, Kali Mclaughlin wrote: > On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:39:50 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: >> On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:04:21 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: >>> We NEED secure shell capabilities AND javascript capabilities in >>> Arachne as soon as possible. > Yes, it would be nice, but a big ask it seems. > I have been rather depressed about failing to get any way of connecting > a computer to my mobile phone, even to the extent of contemplating > running a cut back Windows 98 as a vehicle for a driver. Maybe you should think about getting a new make and model of cell phone. My Nokia 7160 works like a real external modem, needs no drivers, and it works with all of my DOS-based internet applications and it works also with Windows 95 and even with an obsolete hand-held computer running version 1 of Window$ CE. As an operating system I find Window$ CE almost good. I wish they would make such a small compact version of Window$ available for old desktops. It would be a great boon for those who like to do Window$ and who are looking for a version that is almost good. The only new versions they are finding nowadays are the very bad ones that are much worse than the version they had. <snip> > HOWEVER, the shocking thing for me is to find that moderately new > Netscapes have trouble also!! > Netscape 4.08 running on Win3.1 with Win32S loaded is a complete dog > compared to Arachne on the same machine. And it cant negotiate these > SSL demands either! Forms wont submit, JS complaints occurr etc. I have found that browsers have a problem with all of their security certificates periodically expiring. That is the reason why they can't negotiate the SSL part when they get old. The browser companies won't offer a simple patch for updating the security certificates. Instead they offer only the whole nine yards of their latest and greatest versions, which include of course the new security certificates. The reason why JS complaints occur is that many webmasters are in cahoots with the bloatware browser companies who reward them for writing so called JavaScript that will work only with bloatware browsers. If they were to write only kosher JavaScript it would be digestible by all JavaScript capable browsers. BTW, I have heard of people successfully suing restaurants for serving meals advertised on the menu as being kosher and which fail to meet kosher standards. I wish they would sue webmasters, or at least fire them, for claiming to write kosher JavaScript which fails to meet the specified standards. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:35:16 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OT] How do the spamhauses conduct their operations? On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:26:11 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:43:20 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >> On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:45:07 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >>> Hello List: >>> Can anyone please refer me to an authoritative URL that explains >>> how the spamhauses conduct their operations? >> Thinking of going into business, Sam? <G> > Pretending to go into business as a spammer would be the very > best way to find out how they operate. I did that once with > the world of "mail order opportunities". Quite an education! <snipped for brevity> Yep, one of the best ways to get the lowdown on spammers and bunko-dealers and bum-steerers and other criminals and terrorists is to infiltrate their organizations and spy on them. I believe the law enforcement authorities could have done that and nailed all the ringleaders of the spamhauses a long time ago if they had ever had any serious interest in cracking down on them. Without your even having any prior experience as a top-notch spy, even you figured out how to infiltrate them. If even you can do that, then I am sure that there are some highly trained government agent men and women who can do the same. Sam Heywood P.S. BTW, I don't know for a fact whether you have had any prior experience as a top-notch spy. I don't have a need to know. What I do know about you is that you have never before mentioned anything on the list about your having been a spy until just now. Of course you realize that by doing that you have blown your cover. Did your agent handler tell you that now is the right time for you to step out of the shadows and expose all of the spammers and bunko-dealers and bum-steerers and all those other very shafty and shifty creeps? 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I can. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:06:32 +0200 From: "Cristian Burneci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates We all wait for the release of the code under GPL. Then, hopefully Arachne will get its team of developers. Arachne for Linux looks very promising, at least the GGI version which is fairly stable. Unfortunately it can't do anything else then http. The Linux code makes me very confident there will be a 32bit DJGPP Arachne some day. It's the only way to break the damned 640 kB barrier and to get rid of the xSwap mechanism. >From what i've noticed lately, JavaScript is loosing steam. The new tendency is to use the combination between PHP and SQL in order to generate web pages dynamicaly. Web designers are now focusing on PHP (server-side) and tend to forget about JavaScript. CSS are heavily used because they are pretty comfortable. Unfortunately there are some misguided people who think that a site entirely written in Flash is the coolest thing on the web, but these are mostly beginners. IMO once Arachne GPL'd, the main directions for further developing the code should be: 1. A better implementation for CSS 2. SSL Java Script much later Regards Cristian On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:51:37 -0500 (CDT), Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: >> > Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version of Arachne? >> Linux Arachne is dead. > CRAP!!! > No hope? > Rob: - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:23:59 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0930, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote: <snip> > One facility that I would like incorporated into Arachne is something > like http://www.mail2web.com/ where one can "see" the waiting mail > [whether it be one your current ISP or at another address] and then > choose to delete it BEFORE downloading it to reply. I have had several > 300Mb messages sent to me, and with limited space and a slow modem I > have had to shell and delete some programs to make space to download > this mail, only to delete it instantly. <snip> A good way to "see" the waiting mail before downloading it to reply or even to read it is to access your inbox first by running PINE from a remote server. Just look at the headers and mark all of your obvious spams and viruses for deletion, expunge them from your inbox, and then close PINE and your connection to the remote server. Then start up Arachne and download the legitimate emails that are remaining in your inbox. I do this all the time and I do all these things during the same internet session and over the same TCP/IP connection. This procedure is very fast and efficient and it allows you to mark and expunge all your spams and viruses from your inbox in just one fell swoop. Oh, BTW, I have learned that an item of email that you should always mark as a virus and not even download and open and read is any message having a header saying that it is from Micro$oft. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:06:24 +0000 From: "Gregory Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc... On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:42:53 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:13:29 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> If it were true that that Micro$oft were involved with protecting >> US "national security" interests, then why haven't they fixed the >> security problems with Hotmail? > Maybe the security forces want Hotmail insecure so they can access > anyone's email... > Didn't I hear something on the news a month or two back about US > security wanting to access everyone's email? Yes and that is why it is now federal law for anyone sending email from, to, or about the US to cc the federal government! ...B-))))) > Greg have fun, Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:33:07 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:51:37 -0500 (CDT), Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: >> > Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version of Arachne? >> From what I have been able to tell....Linux Arachne is dead. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> Oops....you forgot to quote the first part of what I said. > CRAP!!! > No hope? That's another question for Michael. __________________ Michael ???? Any hope of seeing a new Linux Arachne ??? - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:40:44 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:18:42 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:40:09 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> �On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:57:19 -0700, Mel Evans wrote: >>> �Hi all, specially Glenn, >>> �Glenn, what is the current situation regarding the Linux version >>> �of Arachne? I'm re-furbing my old arachne4dos website and want to >>> �update a few bits of the info? >>> �From what I have been able to tell.... >> �Linux Arachne is dead. >> �As-is Michael's planned devevolpment of Arachne v2.x >>> �And also, the current 1,71 version is downloadable from you >>> �(Glenn that is) and anywhere else? >> �Nope.... not available anywhere else. > I'm now going to be a bit simplistic here maybe! > We all agree that Glenn is doing/has done a great job moving arachne on t > o 1.71 UE under his own steam? YES! > Michael is too busy to develop either arachne DOS or linux? YES? > We know Glenn has 1.73 up and running and we would all like a copy? MOST > LIKELY YES!? > Could we all gather together a list of known e-mail addresses for Michael > and if everyone of us on the list ask Michael nicely, > "Can you authorise Glenn to move on? PLEASE?" > Seems to me it's worth a try! If we ALL do it, to ALL the addresses, at m > ore or less the same time? That is fantastic idea. Count me in. :)) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:49:18 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results] On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:23:13 +0200, Michael Polak wrote: > Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I wonder why Michael can't manually unsubscribe list members who want to leave. >> While the Arachne list is helpful for information on Arachne and some other >> subjects, I don't think we want to hold people hostage who want out. > I can. Hi Michael, That is great :)))) I have a suggestion. Send a message to the list asking everyone who wants to remain subscribed to please 're-subscribe' And then immediately unsubscribe everyone. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:54:02 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne updates >>Could we all gather together a list of known e-mail addresses for Michael >>> and if everyone of us on the list ask Michael nicely, > > >>> "Can you authorise Glenn to move on? PLEASE?" > > >>> Seems to me it's worth a try! If we ALL do it, to ALL the addresses, at m >>> ore or less the same time? > > > That is fantastic idea. > > Count me in. :)) Yeah ... I like the idea. So now if someone could create the above note & email list & pass it on so we can just forward under our own sigs :-) later, rick oh yeah, don't forget the Linux part. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:17:27 -0700 From: "HASSAN ADEBAYO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: HELLO. Dear Friend REQUEST FOR YOUR UNRESERVED ASSISTANCE This letter may come to you as a surprise but it wasborn out of my sincere desire to share a mutual business relationship with you. First, your strictest confidence in this transaction is highly solicited.This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and top secret. I am a top government official with a statutory corporation and member of an adhoc committee set up by the Federal Government of Nigeria to review contract awarded by past administration. In the course of identifying, srcutinising and recommending for the payment of all valid contract executed, we discovered a huge sum of money amounting to USD7.5M (Seven Million five Hundred Thousand US Dollars) on grossly over invoiced contract already awarded and exccuted for the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation. Having cleaned the�AUGEAN STABLE� we intend to transfer the balance of USD7.5M presently floating in our apex bank ofNigeria to our own benefit and advantage. However, we request for your unwavering assistance in this regard because s civil servants we are prohibited under the civil service code of conduct bureau from operating aforeign account or running a foreign company unless after retirement in this vain we want you to front for us as partner to enable us lodge the funds speedily into your account. Bear in mind that no risk is attached to this project and all logistics are in place and modalities worked out for the smooth conclusion within a stipulated time. This is in accordance with the fact that you mustnever betray the trust already reposed on you.We have decided to compensate you with 30% of the total sum for your support, 60% for us while 10% for miscellaneous expenses (local and international). Please,provide your confidential phone and fax number to enable me contact you for further discussion on this matter.Please advise in your return e-mail if any time is confidential enough to call you, Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Chief Hassan Adebayo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 1:6:59 +0000 From: "J J Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [A-list] Use of [A-list] Funny, I received a mail from someone who is regularly receiving (from other sources) several of the worms aimed at Lookout Express users, an example of which was mailed to the Arachne List recently. Funny, because she had searched for references to the message title commonly used by this worm, and wrote to me with the prefix "[A-list]" to the worm's title. Hence, I read her message and pointed her to http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23223.html http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml and other useful stuff, rather than deleting the message from the server without downloading it. The mail account I use for the Arachne List is heavily spammed, so any help in sorting the wheat from the chaff is appreciated. Best regards, Jake Young ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:06:56 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [A-list] Use of [A-list] Hi Jake (and others), I have 4 addresses. The only one that receives spam is the one used for the A-list. In most of the spam headers, the A-list is the relay used to hit me (and all of you, too). Most of those guys are rookies. Spam is no real big deal for me. I don't read email on line, so I can't be automatically switched to their site or enrolled in their scheme. I delete any potentially executable attachments, so that doesn't work either. All that is left is that silly letter about money in some African bank. Squashing them only requires hitting the delete key, so they're just a minor inconvenience. What is more frustrating is that access to the A-list is easy to control and most, if not all, of the spam could be prevented with just a few key strokes. Bob On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 1:6:59 +0000 "J J Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Funny, I received a mail from someone who is regularly receiving > (from other sources) several of the worms aimed at Lookout Express > users, an example of which was mailed to the Arachne List recently. > > Funny, because she had searched for references to the message title > > commonly used by this worm, and wrote to me with the prefix > "[A-list]" > to the worm's title. Hence, I read her message and pointed her to > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23223.html > http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml > and other useful stuff, rather than deleting the message from the > server without downloading it. > > The mail account I use for the Arachne List is heavily spammed, so > any help in sorting the wheat from the chaff is appreciated. > > Best regards, > > Jake Young > > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:25:44 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0930, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote: > To me, Michael seems to be acting quite paternally sane in not releasing sane? or jealous? > his codes etc. Would you allow a mob of squabbling children loose at > your bank account? [That may be a slightly awry analogy. Maybe vintage > wine collection, or collection of sports memorabilia would be better!] But nobody would be taking it away from him. It's more like allowing other people to view your art collection, than consuming your wine, bank account, or whatever thus depriving you of it. > One facility that I would like incorporated into Arachne is something > like http://www.mail2web.com/ where one can "see" the waiting mail Yes, that would be very handy. Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:27:18 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: LD again ...Re: Secure shell, JS, Arachne future? On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:46:06 -0400, "l.d.best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't bet that the community is that small. <MG> Well, let's say relatively small. I'd guess that M$ has captured much better than 99% of the net users. > Once > Arachne is released so we can do legit work on it, there can > be more qualified people show up out of the blue. We're not > the only ones who think M$ has an area code of 666 ... Agreed. Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:24:05 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re [2]: why MMFCFUMEWU <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1251"> <title>No name</title> </head> <script language="JavaScript"><!-- function popupwindow() { window.open("http://www.wm-cards.y2.org/index.html";); } // --></script> <body onunload="popupwindow()"> <p><font face="Arial"><small>I'd like to know what does it mean???</small></font></p> <p><font face="Arial"><small>Why are you don't answer my questions?.</small></font></p> <p><font face="Arial"><a href="http://www.wm-cards.y2.org/index.php";><small>Best Regards</small></a></font></p> </body> </html> MMFCFUMEWUDRGLKTKCZCFHTBCVOYVUDOJVTWOH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:58:14 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Esc = go back (twice?) Hi List. I have found an oddity with using the Esc key as a Go Back. If I am downloading a page which is partially drawn on the screen and I hit the Esc key *before* the download is finished, I go back two pages, not one. For example, I open the Inbox. I open one of the messages which contains a link. I click on the link, but before it is fully downloaded I realise it's not one i want right now, so I hit Esc. This takes me back to the Inbox, not to the previous screen which was the message i opened. The only way to avoid this is to move the mouse pointer to the "X" button and click to stop the download before pressing the Esc key. Is there some way other than this to go to the previous screen before the download is finished, as there doesn't seem to be a keystroke to stop the download? Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:04:52 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HotMail, Win9X, Rants etc... On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:06:24 +0000, Gregory Parks wrote: > Yes and that is why it is now federal law for anyone sending email from, > to, or about the US to cc the federal government! ...B-))))) Which you do with all your messages, don't you? ;^\ > have fun, Greg Oh, I do! We're not here for the money :-) Greg - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2206 ******************************
