arachne-digest Tuesday, January 4 2000 Volume 01 : Number 924 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:14:23 +0100 From: "Rebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions? Hi Himem.sys depends on the dos version you are using. Rebel - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SURVPC LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 5:34 AM Subject: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions? > Hello: > > Do any of you folks know if there are different versions of > HIMEM.SYS? > > If there are different versions, which versions work with which > versions of DOS? > > Do any of you know of a download site for HIMEM.SYS? > > Sam Heywood > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Alternative WWW Browser ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:14:40 +0100 From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne Installation Hi Gregy, you wrote on 30.12.99 to "Re: Arachne Installation": GJF> Steven.....you seem very impatient with Michael P. at his not GJF> having released a new update yet.....but, I don't think GJF> 6-months is a horribly long time.... GJF> I don't want Michael to release some hurry-up sort-of GJF> update, and then have to sit around here and listen to all GJF> the whining and complaining about "bugs", most of which were GJF> the result of an over-hasty upgrade release.....I've seen GJF> sooooooo much of that in the bloatware world, I'm tired of GJF> it......I cannot join you in jabbing Michael in the ribs GJF> to try to make him jump "before its time"(me and Orson Welles GJF> agree)..... Amen, brother... ;-) Bis dann, Hans-J�rgen - -- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## * ZQWKPro v1.1 [unregistered] - -+- OLMS 2000 UNREG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 05:15:10 +0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Syntax for SMTPOP.EXE Here is a quote from SMTPOP.TXT, the documentation file that is provided with SMTPOP.EXE, by the program's author, Alfredo Cole: >Syntax is very simple: >SMTPOP your@address password >Password is the same password you use to connect to your ISP. >It has a built in debug feature, and in case of an error, it >will report the exact cause so that you (and me) can try to >solve it. >Please take note that it was not designed to be run from within >PMAIL. It is best suitable to run it as a batch process to handle >your outgoing and incoming mail in one bundle. Here is my report, informing you all about my results: I enter "smtpop [EMAIL PROTECTED] password" and outgoing mail is successfully sent, but when SMTPOP attempts to download my incoming mail, an error is returned: "-ERR sending password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]" I enter "smtpop [EMAIL PROTECTED] password" and the same thing happens. I enter "smtpop [EMAIL PROTECTED] password" THAT WORKS! It sends outgoing and downloads incoming. Perhaps the same type of server addressing scheme would work for anyone else trying to use SMTPOP.EXE. If anyone tries it, please post your results. Please bear in mind that before you can use SMTPOP you must first load a packet driver and you must have a suitable WATTCP.CFG file. I used NETDIAL by Marc Ressl, and I used EPPPD, and I used the same WATTCP.CFG that I use for Bobcat/Lynx. I hope this information is helpful to someone. Sam Heywood Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 05:15:04 +0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Date errors On 2000-01-04 Thomas Mueller said: >I have used Net Mail DOS 2.00, haven't used 2.12 yet. If you put >the wrong date in the .TXT file, would the server place its >date/time in the headers? I didn't notice that aspect. But the No, the server will not place its own date/time stamp in the header having the "Date:" line. The server will place its own date/time stamp on the headers "supra-appending" the headers appearing on the message itself. (I know that "supra-appending" is not really the correct term meaning "adding on top of". There was once a discussion on this list about what the right word is, but I forgot what the answer was. Somebody please help me out on this one again.) >To-address in the .WRK file determines the recipient, and it is >thereby possible to send a message that goes through >specified in the .WRK file. I once mistyped the second "arachne", >and people on this list wondered how a message sent to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] found its way to the list. This is very interesting information. Thanks for telling me about it. I can really have some fun with this feature <g>. >Running DR-DOS 7.03 on Cx486DX2-S at 66 MHz, I typed "date" some >time after the computer's clock passed the century-transitional >midnight, and the year showed as 2000. BIOS failed three different >tests, downloaded from the Internet, for being able to make the >transition from 1999 to 2000. OK, so maybe it doesn't make the transition automatically if you set the date for Dec 31st, 1999 and leave it running until after midnight. You can get around a little problem like that by simply entering the DOS "date" command and then entering the correct date as "01-04-2000". If your computer will not accept that as a valid date, then you have a Y2K problem. BTW, I have some early neolithic era computers (8088s) that will accept 21st century dates! Sam Heywood Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:29:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Jorge Alex Ortega O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne Installation - --- Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Gregy, > > you wrote on 30.12.99 to "Re: Arachne Installation": > GJF> Steven.....you seem very impatient with Michael > P. at his not > GJF> having released a new update yet.....but, I > don't think > GJF> 6-months is a horribly long time.... > GJF> I don't want Michael to release some > hurry-up sort-of > GJF> update, and then have to sit around here and > listen to all > GJF> the whining and complaining about "bugs", most > of which were > GJF> the result of an over-hasty upgrade > release.....I've seen > GJF> sooooooo much of that in the bloatware world, > I'm tired of > GJF> it......I cannot join you in jabbing Michael in > the ribs > GJF> to try to make him jump "before its time"(me > and Orson Welles > GJF> agree)..... > > Amen, brother... ;-) > i fully agree it! (!estoy totalmente de acuerdo!) Eso no mas ;P J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:30:31 From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Date errors On 4 Jan 00 at 9:45, arachne-digest wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have used Net Mail DOS 2.00, haven't used 2.12 yet. If you put the wrong date > in the .TXT file, would the server place its date/time in the headers? I didn't You can put just about anything you want into the "Date" line of an email msg. Of course, if your recipient likes to sort msgs by date, he will appreciate having the correct one. If you send an email with no "Date:" header line at all, then the smtp server will insert one with its current date and time. ("Message-ID" is another one like that: you can put anything you want, or you can leave it out and one of the mail servers that the msg travels through will insert it.) > notice that aspect. But the To-address in the .WRK file determines the > recipient, and it is thereby possible to send a message that goes through > without a To: line, or with the wrong address in the To: line. I could put the > correct address in the .WRK file, have a line To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the > message would show a line To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but would go to the address > specified in the .WRK file. I once mistyped the second "arachne", and people on > this list wondered how a message sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] found its way to the > list. Some smtp clients, including Arachne, read the RFC822 header to determine the recipient addresses that will be passed to the smtp host. Others such as NetMail, get them from a different source. Both methods seem to get the job done. What's important is that either way, the msg gets to where it's supposed to go. - -- ...This msg brought to you by NEIL PARKS Beachwood, Ohio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.en.com/users/neparks/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:35:23 From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions? On 4 Jan 00 at 9:45, arachne-digest wrote: > From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do any of you folks know if there are different versions of > HIMEM.SYS? > If there are different versions, which versions work with which > versions of DOS? AFAIK it is an integral part of DOS, not separately available. Different DOS versions actually use it differently. For example, running MS-DOS on a 386 (or better) you would use both HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. But with DR-DOS, you use HIMEM.SYS only on a 286, and EMM386 alone on a 386. Other memory managers such as QEMM and Netroom substitute their own device drivers, and you would use neither HIMEM.SYS nor EMM386 with them. - -- ...This msg brought to you by NEIL PARKS Beachwood, Ohio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.en.com/users/neparks/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Jorge Alex Ortega O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: TSR virus checkers - --- "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > QUESTION - does anyone run any tsr virus protection > with > Arachne....if so, what....I'm going to play with it, > off-and-on > for the next few days, and see if there is any way > to make > it work.....any thoughts are WELCOME..????? > Hmmm...... I usually work with virstop or vshield... But you have a modem and i don't know if the foolowing list will be usful for you.... anyway i recommend: http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net/msdos/virus-pre.html (this is a full list of antivirus... you have many choices :) i recommend for you: (because i've worked with it and arachne) - Virx299.zip (maybe complicated) -vsh-320e.zip (good:only one trouble: memory hungry) - Vstop54.zip (Hmmm. maybe a good alternative, but only detects a little bit of the viruses that you found today) -vste204.zip (good: but you'll need 4dos to install this!!) Okis... have fun. Try to find the best tsr that aplies to you (i cannot recomend one because my system is no standard and maybe the yours don't work like the one mine... :( Cheers J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you wanna see something weird??? www.ihatebillgates.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 01:30:30 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: load EPPPD high On Saturday, "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: ] Memory Summary: ] ] Type of Memory Total = Used + Free ] ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ] Conventional 655,360 97,008 558,352 ] Upper 93,040 76,272 16,768 ] Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 ] Extended (XMS)* 24,024,208 2,626,704 21,397,504 ] ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ] Total memory 25,165,824 3,193,200 21,972,624 ] ] Total under 1 MB 748,400 173,280 575,120 OK, I have a suggestion: you can get more upper memory by enabling some more: (in config.sys) device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems i=b000-b7ff This also turns EMS off (EMS takes 64KB of upper memory for its frame) You can also run memmaker to make it think of more memory space for you (Choose the agressive mode). I don't use MS-DOS that much any more, but you'll get the idea. :) IIRC you can enable more but I'm not sure exactly what; my laptop reckons it needs X=D000-DFFF because of the PCMCIA card. FWIW: Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory -------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- MSDOS 18,877 (18K) 18,877 (18K) 0 (0K) HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K) EMM386 4,144 (4K) 4,144 (4K) 0 (0K) COMMAND 4,272 (4K) 4,272 (4K) 0 (0K) CTMOUSE 6,464 (6K) 0 (0K) 6,464 (6K) ANSI 4,208 (4K) 0 (0K) 4,208 (4K) POWER 4,640 (5K) 0 (0K) 4,640 (5K) IFSHLP 3,936 (4K) 0 (0K) 3,936 (4K) SMARTDRV 26,720 (26K) 0 (0K) 26,720 (26K) SHARE 16,944 (17K) 0 (0K) 16,944 (17K) DOSKEY 4,144 (4K) 0 (0K) 4,144 (4K) EPPPD 70,160 (69K) 0 (0K) 70,160 (69K) Free 680,672 (665K) 626,560 (612K) 54,112 (53K) Conventional 655,360 28,800 626,560 Upper 191,328 137,216 54,112 Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 Extended (XMS) 2,954,400 746,656 2,207,744 ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- Total memory 4,194,304 1,305,888 2,888,416 Total under 1 MB 846,688 166,016 680,672 Largest executable program size 626,464 (612K) Largest free upper memory block 33,120 (32K) MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area. As you can see the PCMCIA drivers aren't loaded, since I don't use any cards (except the floppy drive, but that works without the drivers if it is plugged in when the computer is turned on. And here's my edited CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT (since I use a multiple-boot menu) DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF DOS=UMB lastdrive=f FCBS=16,0 SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:1536 /p STACKS=9,256 DOS=HIGH DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\MS\WIN\IFSHLP.SYS @echo off PATH c:\1;C:\CPQDOS;c:\dos;c:\;c:\1\qb;c:\ziptools;c:\1\gds;c:\tpascal\bin;c:\1\np SET PROMPT=$P$G SET TEMP=C:\1\TEMP SET SCSI_DRIVER = C:\ZIPTOOLS SET SCSI_UTILITY = C:\ZIPTOOLS break on set path=c:\ms\win;%path%;c:\ms\trum LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE 512 256 LH C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /l:500 /f:5100 LH C:\DOS\doskey ctmousep C:\CPQDOS\HIBRN8.EXE IF NOT EXIST C:\CPQDOS\SAVEDONE.CPQ CALL SAVEALL /A \1\menu.bat - -- | .~. | From Hoody, now more mobile with a mobile phone | /V\ | http://hoody.virtualave.net uploaded! | // \\ | http://hoody.penguinpowered.com when I'm online | /( )\ | ICQ: five oh one seven five one seven oh | ^`~'^ | Carpe Aptenodytes! Do not attempt to traverse a chasm in two leaps. | C607EUW | "We apologise for the inconvenience" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 1980 16:35:06 +0000 From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: stop all!!! On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:59:39 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 06:22:31 -0800 (PST), Jorge Alex Ortega O. wrote: >> when i said thar arachne is faster than netsc... and >> MSIE, i said what i tested on the pc machines in the >> university(??).. i figure that almost every people >> that reply the past e-mail (�se dira asi??) but >> consider the next: >> - Here we have a ultraboost proxy (T1 type) >> - The hardware installed here is nonstandard (In other >> words... no windows compatible :) >> Surely... everyone here can get your own opinion and >> have your tests... but like always i say: 'If a machne >> is not a "IBM" Pc, obtained from IBM, your machine >> will be not 100% compatible after all, and no machines >> work in the same way, at the same speed... > Greetings Jorge, > I want you to know that I welcome your participation and reports > concerning Arachne. Most of us are not using Arachne on directly > networked computers, but from home with dial-up accounts. So your > situation is different. > You are absolutely correct, results will vary depending on hardware, > type of connection and so on. > Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan and supporter of Arachne and only > hope that it gets better and better. > By the way, "Cheers" is a friendly greeting and salutation, meaning > "be of good cheer" or just "be happy". It is sometimes used as a toast > while drinking. You hold your glass up and say "Cheers". Then you clink > glasses with your friends and drinking companions and down your > beverage. A fitting activity to begin Y2K!! > Cheers to all as we begin the new year!! > Sam Ewalt > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client > -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ Two pence worth! As I sit here at my IBM (yes, a real one!) using Arachne, I have to point out Arachne is faster than Netscrape on this machine overall, but not as fast as IE4 or Opera. I suspect this is due to the ISP being geared to IE4/5 as it's main browser rather than the fact that Netscape or Arachne are themselves inherently slower. Netscrape is also incidentally rubbish here at loading teh ISP's home page, www.freeserve.net and takes fits of stopping the load halfway through when it hits the photo jpg that the ISP tends to put in and change regularly. Don't blame the browser every time, sometimes it's the ISP Regards Mel Visit http://www.santamail.freeserve.co.uk/santa.htm to send a note to Santa Arachne, the Internet Suite and Browser for DOS, supports tables, graphics, animations, forms, HTML 4.0 Transitional Pages and more. Visit Mel's UK Arachne Pages for details and FREE Download. Kick-start a 386/486 with Arachne, or use on a Pentium! http://www.arachne4dos.freeserve.co.uk e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bccscotland.freeserve.co.uk Web Pages of |British Caravanners Club, Scotland| http://www.euramcom.freeserve.co.uk Mel's Ham Radio Equivalents Pages ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:53:25 +0000 From: "Geoff Barnard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SMTPOP Hello All, Regarding a recent note about SMTPOP. I had been using SMPTPOP12 for a while, and that worked fine for getting my mail, but never worked for posting mail. The syntax is different from that given in the message just posted. What version is this referring to? Is there a new version? The version I've used involved an 'account' datafile, and required at least one parameter like -b. It did NOT work in the form given in the posting i.e. SMTPOP account@isp password. I would still like a version of SMTPOP that works in both directions for my own Mail/News program. Ditto re News. I still use the GETNEWS program by Martin G. That works fine for getting news. His POSTNEWS does not work for me, I get a complaing regarding a missing 'From:' item, regardless of how I try to present a complete posting. Anyone any thoughts on that? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:42 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Happu Y2K ;-)))) Sergei wrote: >If you have ATX case, you may try to add one more fan, or >bigger copper radiator to CPU. Also try to open case and check work >without cover. The cover? I haven't had it on for a long long time now... (might be a problem since the fan is pushing hot air upwards, otherwise it would be pushed away and up by it's own heat. //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:44 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Happu Y2K ;-)))) Michael L. Dawley wrote: >I am assuming that your problem is cooling related. >If it never returns to a 400MHz then the shop might have to >replace something<g>. >You might do like I do, and get several old cheap computers, then >if one won't work, you'll have others! I do have several others: P166MMX, 486DX2-80 (a friend forgot it at my house two years ago and has finally came around to giving it to me), 486DX2-66, 486SX-66 (note that it isn't a SX2 according to the manufacteror (sp?)) 386SX-20, 386SX-16. And that's just in my room (most are even assembled), in the room next to mine is a P120 and a 486 laptop (I'm hoping my father will remember one of these days to take a 286 laptop home from work - which BTW was the first computer I used back in 85). I've also got an AMIGA 12000 which is rather useless (espacially since I can't find all the workbench disks, and haven't found any "abondonware" (latest release of Workbench is from October IIRC) site that lets me download them in a binary form). Still what good are these computers when I want to do something with my main computer? I guess it's time to start cleaning my room - I can't remember were I left my hub ;) //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:45 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Happu Y2K ;-)))) Sam Heywood wrote: >I leave my computer on all the time. When I leave my home, I turn off >the heat whenever I feel that inside temperatures will not plummet below >freezing as a result. You're throwing away a lot of money by doing so, it's probably cheaper to pay for the heating the normal way. Besides it isn't good for the environment. >If the inside temperature goes down to about 35 degrees F, my computer will >crash. (snip) Sorry, I have no idea on what temperatures you're refering too. Please try to keep it a little more scientific, so use K or the "new" C (original C had boiling water at 0 and freezing at 100 - so now you know we swedes are a little crazy unless you hadn't noticed that I am <VBG>). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:40 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: System Optimization Gregy wrote: >Gee..Bernie.....that looks neat.....please post your config.sys and > autoexec.bat....I wanna get my box to look like that.....<g>,(but >serious, so send them)... Since I'm uncertain if this mailinglist will accept attachments I'll add them inside the mail (at the bottom). >YES..!! let us start a thread...you call it anything you want....I've >just temporarily called it "system optimization".....first topic >is optimize conventional memory.....then we can collect the thread and >post it as an archive, and keep adding topics to it....then we don't >have to be asking ( and answering) the same questions again and again. But isn't this a little OT? >But, some or us don't run mouseys....I run alpsey and need my >amouse.com. I don't sugegst that it's automatically run just that it's added and that the user is notified if he/she doesn't have a mouse driver present. >ADDED thought....there has gotta be a way to load EPPD..high...I >mean, way up....above 1M....it's a driver, right?...so, there >must be some way to get it running up there... Now we are going outside the normal 16-bit DOS operation. I doubt there's an easy way to do it. Anyway my files (and a few things I would like everyone to read)... c:\autoexec.bat: @c:\dos\faster.bat s c:\dos\faster.bat: @copy c:\command.com %1:\command.com>nul @set comspec=%1:\command.com>nul @copy c:\dos\normal.bat %1:\normal.bat>nul @%1:\normal.bat c:\dos\normal.bat: @echo off prompt $e[0;59;"dir";13p$p$g rem I added this the other day... hitting F2 does a "dir" lh c:\dos\smartdrv.exe /U /N 32768 16384 /B:57344 >nul lh c:\dos\dosmax\envimax /R- /P- >nul PATH C:\DOS;C:\DOSUTIL;>nul SET TEMP=c:\temp>nul SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P330 T6>nul SET SOUND=C:\SB16>nul SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E>nul C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S>nul C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q>nul c:\dos\ctmouse.com/1/M>nul lh c:\dos\KEYB.com SV>nul set config=>nul c:\config.sys: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE noems highscan devicehigh=c:\dos\dosmax\dosmax.exe /C+ /R- /P- /M1 devicehigh=c:\dos\ansi.sys rem shell=c:\shellmax.com /R- /P- c:\command.com /P shell=C:\command.com/E:2048 /P devicehigh=c:\dos\ramdrive.sys 56 128 2 /e DOS=HIGH,UMB Buffers=30 FILES=60 FCBS=4,4 STACKS=9,256 LASTDRIVE=Z And I load my CD with this BATch file: @lh c:\dos\devload c:\dos\atapi_cd.sys /MSCD001 @LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001 I did notice that devload and/or my atapi driver doesn't load if there isn't enough free high memmory. (I've changed the settings for SmartDrv after my original message and now have very little high memmory available - but on the other hand most things seem to have speed up a bit) Also the two lines: C:\SB16\DIAGNOSE /S>nul C:\SB16\MIXERSET /P /Q>nul might see a little useless but without these not all games will have sound :( And ctmouse loads high if it can so there's no need in telling it to do so. Hope this was usefull... (and if someone sees anything here that might interfere with Arachnes on-line connection please inform me ASAP). Oh, does anyone have a ATAPI driver that uses less than the 9 936 bytes mine does? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:53 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions? Sam Heywood wrote: >Do any of you folks know if there are different versions of >HIMEM.SYS? Sure, for instance the switch "/TestMem:Off" isn't available on all (MS-DOS, dunno about the others) >If there are different versions, which versions work with which >versions of DOS? I think any will work. I haven't heard of a .sys file that required any certain version (but if so it could be fixed with "setver"). >Do any of you know of a download site for HIMEM.SYS? Nope, try to find complete downloads of DOS if you want it. Why do you ask? Perhaps someone use less memmory then the other? The hunt for the almighty free byte in low memmory continues... //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:52 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Load EPPPD high >Hello all, Bernie: >I got my EPPPD loaded high, and now have Dos memory (kb) of 148 >showing on Arachne!, this is an increase from the 83 I had before. And I even wrote you a response (and put it in my out mailbox) anyway you asked if it would work and I thought my answer shouldn't get completly wasted... Probably, but don't bet on it. I have 15K free now since I changed my bootup files (see my post to the Arachne mailinglist if you want to read them) but couldn't load ca 10K in the high memmory (and DOS said that 14K was the biggest hole I had). Might have been because I loaded my cd drivers through a BATch file (using a program called "devload") and the first free memmory area that can hold 102 bytes (or whatever this little program adds) wasn't big enough to also fit the cd driver. (DOS uses a method called "first-fit" when it chooses the memmory location IIRC, "worst-fit" would have been the best in this case) //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:56 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hot Brain Gregy wrote: >Bernie,.....if your chip temp is not exceeding specs, but is still >doing the speed backoff (and you have pretty well determined that >this is a "bug" not a "feature") and it is still the company's >responsibility, then I think you are right to take it back...the >chip seems to be "out of tolerance"....sometimes we struggle >and fiddle with something, just because we don't want to admit >defeat, but we really should just give it back to the people >who mal-manufactured it... I might wait a while until they don't have any 400MHz left in the store and ask to get a 450MHz (or faster if that's also out) instead (which is my right of course). I bet the people in the store (who I happen to know a little since I've been there way to many times since they started several years ago) only will think it's funny when I come in demanding a new CPU since the current one isn't working. I can see that they almost start to laugh every time I mention that I want to know how something works in DOS and/or Win 3.x and/or Linux. It's almost become bad habits for me to ask even if I know the answer and for them to answer if I don't ask (often the answer is that they don't know). Besides I need to figure out were the store is located now (which is the fourth place they've been - I've of course visited every place since it's the only *real* store in town). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:55 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: load EPPPD high Hoody wrote: >You can also run memmaker to make it think of more memory space for >you (Choose the agressive mode). I don't use MS-DOS that much any >more, but you'll get the idea. :) Please isn't this the extremly last resort? I even tried it once on my setup (similar to my current but this was more than 5 years ago) and got less memmory afterwards. I really can't see how it managed to make such a lousy job since it had "perfect" config.sys and autoexec.bat files to start with. >IIRC you can enable more but I'm not sure exactly what; my laptop >reckons it needs X=D000-DFFF because of the PCMCIA card. Hoody, what happens if you add "highscan" to the emm386 line? >PATH c:\1;C:\CPQDOS;c:\dos;c:\;c:\1\qb;c:\ziptools;c:\1\gds;c:\tpascal\bin;c:\1\np Wow! Isn't that a little large? (I add to mine when I want to use ex. DJGPP, BCC or TP). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:53:19 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Funny sites http://www.ihatewindows98.com/ http://www.ihatebillgates.com/ What would you do if you met Bill Gates? http://www.ihatewindows98.com/cgi-bin/www.ihatewindows98.com/poll9.pl //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #924 *****************************
