arachne-digest Thursday, January 6 2000 Volume 01 : Number 926
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:13:33 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: acrodos link update...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:12:02 +0100, Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
> you wrote on 03.01.00 to "acrodos link update...":
> GM> If you look long enough, you _can_ find it.<g>
> GM>
> GM> http://cosmic.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/webdoc/viewer/acroread/acrodos/
> "Goin' back to my hometown..." (Rory Gallagher) ;-)
> BUT: Do you know if these DOS versions of the Adobe Acrobat Reader can
> read all the newest PDF files? I doubt it, because I experienced an
> incompatibility (what a word!) trying to read a new *.pdf (I think it
> was a manual for McAfee's virus scanner) with v2.0 of the Acrobat Reader
> for 16-bit Windows.
Hans-J�rgen......what kind of "incompatibility" was it....non-fatal,
or crashing-fatal......all I want to do with it is read some spec.
sheets, and if some or it isn't readeable, well tough....if it crashes
my box then i'll trash it....
gregy
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 23:32:24 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hot Brain
On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:58:39 +0200, Dain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Gregory J. Feig" wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:25:22 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> -------------------snip------------
>> > Another problem I have at times is that the temperature on the motherboard
>> > and/or cpu is getting very hot so the BIOS complains (I thought about
>> > turning these checks off but thought it might be safer with them still on).
>> Bernie,
>> I think this second "problem" is the cause of the first....If
>> your BIOS has no "turbo" option, and you get a "lockup" when the
>> speed drop occurs (what you described is a form of "lockup")..
>> then, the chip would seem to have an internal temp sensor, and
>> it's saving its brains from cooking.......
>> gregy
> Chipset CAN NOT have internal temperature sensor.
> Realisation of termosensor at silicon is very hard job for now.
> If you have ATX case, you may try to add one more fan, or
> bigger copper radiator to CPU. Also try to open case and check work
> without cover.
> Sergei
> --
Sergei......I thought they could....my mistake....they obviously
haven't yet caught up with my imagination.
gregy
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 07:10:16 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TSR virus checkers
On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:44:01 +0200, Dain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What for you need TSR virus check ?
> Why don't use simple scanner such as Dr.Web or NortonAV ?
Sergei......I can only partially answer you.....you ask questions
which make me dig into my preferences.....but, one reason
I want tsr virus checker to monitor when something writes to
any sensitive areas on my system.....I don't know Dr.Web, but
NortonAV works well and I use it, but, expecially on this box,
I want a SMALL tsr to sit as watchman.....My Dr, Panda stuff
interfers with Arachne (and even my mouse driver, if I don't
load it first), and I haven't had much time to test/config
on it much, and still don't have it.....
My CMOS Bios Virus check function is the only thing I
have running now....and I am slightly nervous about running
around the web, without as much protection as possible
Maybe I'm just being paranoid....your questions made me
question whether this is true or not....thanks for questions.
gregy
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:04:53 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RLL with EIDE
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:55:24 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson)
wrote:
> On Tues, Jan. 4, 2000, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:42 +0100 (MET),
> Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Sergei wrote:
>>>> If you have ATX case, you may try to add one more fan, or
>>>> bigger copper radiator to CPU. Also try to open case and check work
>>>> without cover.
>>> The cover? I haven't had it on for a long long time now... (might be a
>>> problem since the fan is pushing hot air upwards, otherwise it would be
>>> pushed away and up by it's own heat.
>> The cover? Do computers _have_ covers???
>> OH yeah, that's the thing I removed from mine the day I got it.
>> It's around here somewhere.<vbg>
> Cover, did you say cover? I thought that was a tray!
> That's what I use to store all my documentation in
> so I can carry it from computer to computer!
> Anyway, I've never been able to fit everything I "need"
> inside any desktop case. I just set a big box over mine
> so I don't accidently drop my screw driver or coffee
> cup inside it while it's running. My friend's grandson
> spilled a whole can of pop on his fast pentium laptop.
> He had to buy a new computer!
NOTE - i didn't snip because it's hilarious..technonerds
in full flight....
> BTW, does anyone have any experience running a RLL HDD
> and a EIDE HDD on the same motherboard?
Eric....No...you can't do it.....you haven't got room in your
case for all those drives...(unless you got some of those
nifty little 2.5" laptop drives and outrigger mounted them <vbg>
Seriously....yes....back when IDE was just coming in, I had
a 2-drive RLL card running 2-connor 40Mb and then added one
of the original IDE cards, and two 80 Mb IDE drives....this
was on a 10Mhz Turbo XT.....the RLL card was a Western Digital
and the IDE card was a ??? (these were both 8-bit bus cards).
These cards were "fully loaded" with jumpers, even though
they both had on-card BIOSes.....and I had to tweak around
with the jumpers.....
Primary things, are just like any other add-in card...
Base ADDresses, IRQ, on-card BIOS ADDresses...all must be
unique....no sharing of resources is allowed.....
EIDE has, of course, 2-port capability (4-drives) while
RLL (AFIK) has 2-drive capability.....I don't remember any
unsurmountable gotchas from running the two controller cards
....so, EIDE + RLL should work.....but, WHY???....RLL drives
cannot approach IDEs for access speed....unless you'r just
trying to use some spare RLLs.
If the controllers are on the motherboard, itself, then
they must be fully configurable, with jumpers, or BIOS
settings...
gregy
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 07:19:30 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: Happu Y2K ;-))))
On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:33:20 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
re - Bernie's reply to Sergei:
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>> The cover? I haven't had it on for a long long time now... (might be a
>> problem since the fan is pushing hot air upwards, otherwise it would be
>> pushed away and up by it's own heat.
> The cover? Do computers _have_ covers???
> OH yeah, that's the thing I removed from mine the day I got it.
> It's around here somewhere.<vbg>
I saw something on the net t'other day about all the different
uses you find for your computer case cover.....I'll never be
able to find it again, because I'm getting senile, but it was
on the order of the sick list of "things you can do with a
dead cat"....but it sounds as if you guys can generate our
own list right here on the arachnelist....
BTW my cover IS on my tower case....taped on with duct tape <g>
gregy
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:59:39 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: acrodos link update...
Gregory J. Feig wrote:
>
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:12:02 +0100, Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Glenn,
>
> > you wrote on 03.01.00 to "acrodos link update...":
> > GM> If you look long enough, you _can_ find it.<g>
> > GM>
> > GM> http://cosmic.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/webdoc/viewer/acroread/acrodos/
>
> > "Goin' back to my hometown..." (Rory Gallagher) ;-)
>
> > BUT: Do you know if these DOS versions of the Adobe Acrobat Reader can
> > read all the newest PDF files? I doubt it, because I experienced an
> > incompatibility (what a word!) trying to read a new *.pdf (I think it
> > was a manual for McAfee's virus scanner) with v2.0 of the Acrobat Reader
> > for 16-bit Windows.
>
> Hans-J�rgen......what kind of "incompatibility" was it....non-fatal,
> or crashing-fatal......all I want to do with it is read some spec.
> sheets, and if some or it isn't readeable, well tough....if it crashes
> my box then i'll trash it....
Hi Gregy, Hans;
There is only ONE version of acrobat for DOS and, although it is worth trying,
and works VERY well for early .pfds, these a***oles at Adobe keep changing the
standard and care nothing for the users of even the previous Windows versions
of Acrobat - and as far as they are concerned, DOS users don't exist.
So, while it won't crash your hardware, I find it useless for viewing technical
docs made available by most electronic and semiconductor manufacturers - unless
the file was created before 1997. What you get is a message saying a (number)
of unrecognized elements (or whatever) were found and it quits processing.
I wish I could think of some way to get back at these companies that deliberately
generate or modify ?standards? to force users to load their latest pile of crap.
If there were a few more people in the world with strong opinions willing
to say "Enough is enough - I'm not going to support the use of this crap !" ,
we might have a chance.
I have resigned myself to waiting - it may take a long time and there may be
(I hope) some major direction changes due to a long overdue backlash - but I
trust that the results of this evolution will eventually be worthwhile.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:13:17 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger)
Subject: dos basic tcp-ip
Markus Maussner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>long time ago i visited a homepage of a arachne-user who wrote a basic
>interpreter who also works with tcp-ip.
>
>if i am right (i am only guessing)
>he was from germany and was a member of somthing like "the gulde of
>commandline"
That could be the "Knights of the Order of the Command Line"
at http://knights.rave.org/
>if u know where i can find this software now.. please email me
Done.
Howard Eisenberger
Ottawa, Canada
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:47:46 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: acrodos link update...
Clarence Verge wrote:
>>Hi Gregy, Hans;
There is only ONE version of acrobat for DOS and, although it is worth trying,
and works VERY well for early .pfds, these a***oles at Adobe keep changing the
standard and care nothing for the users of even the previous Windows versions
of Acrobat - and as far as they are concerned, DOS users don't exist.
So, while it won't crash your hardware, I find it useless for viewing
technical
docs made available by most electronic and semiconductor manufacturers -
unless
the file was created before 1997. What you get is a message saying a (number)
of unrecognized elements (or whatever) were found and it quits processing.
I wish I could think of some way to get back at these companies that
deliberately
generate or modify ?standards? to force users to load their latest pile of
crap.
If there were a few more people in the world with strong opinions willing
to say "Enough is enough - I'm not going to support the use of this crap !" ,
we might have a chance.
I have resigned myself to waiting - it may take a long time and there may be
(I hope) some major direction changes due to a long overdue backlash - but I
trust that the results of this evolution will eventually be worthwhile.
- - Clarence Verge<<
Clarence,
After I read this I went back to the header as I was sure that you would have
copied this to Adobe <G>. Unfortunately, you only sent it to the list, and
all we can do is commiserate with you.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:43:18 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dos basic TCP/IP
Hello all,
Here's an interesting quote from the web page referenced in this
thread:(http://www.ncf.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html)
"I have learned from experience that it is probably better to start
with smaller applications such as ping and finger to test the packet
driver setup before trying the browsers, all of which use up most of
conventional memory, so that what might appear to be a
connection problem is more likely to be a memory problem."
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
Compaq Deskpro 575 - Pegasus Mail for Windows
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:57:04 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re-using old systems
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:01:52 +0000, Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote:
> Take a look at the work done by http://www.newdealinc.com
> about re-using old computers. These folks make software
> for older systems. And since internet connectivity is
> their weak point, they complement Arachne very well.
The reason Newdeal works so well on old hardware is that it is
based on old software that was very advanced for its time.
Geos offered long filenames, a superb graphical environment and
very advanced printing capabilities years before Windows. Plus
it is rock steady stable and runs on a 286.
New Deal has updated the Geoworks office suite and it really is a nice
package. Great word processor and desk top publishing package for
vintage hardware.
Sam Ewalt
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:02:18 -0600 (CST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: Happu Y2K ;-))))
On 01-05 09:19am CST, you wrote:
>> BTW my cover IS on my tower case....taped on with duct tape <g>
>>
>> gregy
I have my case in place but no screws installed. Cuts down on the drive/fan
noise. You can buy thumb type case screws that do not require a tool to
install/remove if you want the convenience of easy access and still be able
to install your cover.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v4.01beta) EVALUATION
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:25:49 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netdial and Arachne
Klaus,
I have updated this line in my "aracdial.bat" file to load the
epppd.exe high:
- -------------------------------------------
@lh epppd base 0x2F8 irq 3 pktvec 0x60 38400 asyncmap 0
crtscts
- ------------------------------------------
In a recent run of Arachne using the netdial setup, I exited using
ALT-E, and then at the DOS prompt:
- -----------------------------------------------------
mem/c > mem.txt
- -----------------------------------------------------
Here is part of the mem.txt file, showing epppd loaded into high
memory:
- -----------------------------------------------------
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
MSDOS 17,325 (17K) 17,325 (17K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 4,144 (4K) 4,144 (4K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,792 (4K) 3,792 (4K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 3,216 (3K) 3,216 (3K) 0 (0K)
SETVER 624 (1K) 0 (0K) 624 (1K)
SHARE 16,944 (17K) 0 (0K) 16,944 (17K)
MOUSE 25,632 (25K) 0 (0K) 25,632 (25K)
SMARTDRV 29,024 (28K) 0 (0K) 29,024 (28K)
EPPPD 66,416 (65K) 0 (0K) 66,416 (65K)
Free 645,376 (630K) 625,440 (611K) 19,936 (19K)
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Before loading epppd high, obtain a mem.txt without Arachne
running, and see if there is enough left over to allow epppd to
go there. To do that, at the DOS prompt:
mem/c > mem.txt
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Also, I received info from Bernie that my memory could be
inproved by using these lines in my config.sys, and this has
made it possible to load epppd high, and resulted in much more
low memory for Arachne to use:
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DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN
DOS=HIGH,UMB
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What I did was replace the lines I had in my config.sys with
the above, and the results were dramatic. Here is a quote from
this web page on DOS TCP/IP:
(http://www.ncf.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html)
"I have learned from experience that it is probably better to start
with smaller applications such as ping and finger to test the packet
driver setup before trying the browsers, all of which use up most of
conventional memory, so that what might appear to be a
connection problem is more likely to be a memory problem."
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I have not tried it, but there is a chance that the normal setup
of Arachne might work on these Compaq's with only the config.sys
changes to improve memory arrangements. If it did, then the
beloved ALT-D and ALT-H could be retained. In my setup, one
has to start from the beginning, and run the netdial connection
once you hangup with ALT-H. I am not convinced that this would
work, however, so have not experimented with it.
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This is an update to my earlier posts concerning my Netdial-
Arachne setup.
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
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They also discuss the same approach to connecting Arachne
as I have done. I have my setup presented in a step-by-step
manner, however, and hopefully it will work for you.
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Compaq Deskpro 575 - Pegasus Mail for Windows
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:07:09 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: acrodos link update...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:47:46 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> Clarence Verge wrote:
>>> Hi Gregy, Hans;
- ----------------snip----------
> I wish I could think of some way to get back at these companies that
> If there were a few more people in the world with strong opinions willing
> to say "Enough is enough - I'm not going to support the use of this crap !" ,
> we might have a chance.
> I have resigned myself to waiting - it may take a long time and there may be
> (I hope) some major direction changes due to a long overdue backlash - but I
> trust that the results of this evolution will eventually be worthwhile.
> - Clarence Verge<<
> Clarence,
> After I read this I went back to the header as I was sure that you would have
> copied this to Adobe <G>. Unfortunately, you only sent it to the list, and
> all we can do is commiserate with you.
> Roger Turk
> Tucson, Arizona USA
Roger,,,Clarence...Hans.....,
Thanks for all your help, also Glenn....I went to the hamburg link
and got my DOS reader down....while I was there, I also got a Wim31
reader down, and, almost d/l my OS2 reader.....except it was the
German Language edition....I'll get the OS2 from the USA site....
Clarence...you hit lots of my hot buttons....I almost got up on
my soapbox, but you expressed my feelings more than well....
What we can do, is what we ARE doing.....keep eyes opened and
pass the word around......that may seem like little or nothing, but
that is the way LINUX progressed, and that is why DOS is STILL
the most widely used OS in the world, and, according to Mike
Swaine, DDJ, it is the fastest GROWING operating system...
What we can do, for this .PDF upbreak <g>, problem is see if
there is any DOS Unility, on the web that will convert these "new"
style files to "old" style files, or convert them to ASCII of such.
The "guru" of postscript is, of Don Lancaster, down in Arizona..
I am going to query him for his thoughts on the feasiblity of such
converting, in general....I'll get back to you if he has interesting
and applicable feedback...
gregy
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:28:02 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Funny sites
OK, I went there and collected some GIF files.
Now I need a genius to tell me how to write a signature *script* of some
sort which will always attach those GIFs in the signature portion of my
messages. <G> I'd try embedding them, but from what some MS users have
told me in the past, they can't view embedded stuff in their mail.
Waiting with worm on tongue ...
l.d.
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:53:19 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.ihatewindows98.com/
> http://www.ihatebillgates.com/
> What would you do if you met Bill Gates?
> http://www.ihatewindows98.com/cgi-bin/www.ihatewindows98.com/poll9.pl
> //Bernie
> http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:02:53 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions?
Have to admit it -- I thought this was all so much bunk, of little
consequence, etc.
Then I went and did a quick check, and was flabbergasted! I have DOS
5.0 and 6.22, and both have HIMEM.SYS. The 5.0 version is about 11K,
while the 6.22 version is almost 30K!! That could be the difference
between being able to run Arachne and not being able to.
However, if a person has to load SETVER to run the 5.0 v of HIMEM in an
otherwise 6.x version of DOS, will there be any saving of memory? Well,
I couldn't leave that question hanging so did another check. SETVER.EXE
v. 6.22 is 12,015 bytes -- that's only 8 bytes bigger than v 5.0. Doing
a bit of math, it would seem that there is a savings in memory even if
you have to use SETVER.
29K - 11K = ~18K possible savings in memory using v 5.0 HIMEM
- 12K if you have to use SETVER to use " " " " " "
-----
Leaving ~6K net savings in memory by using older version HIMEM
I knew there were a couple of good reasons I persist in running DOS 5.0
when I could move "upward"; this discovery today verifies I am
apparently doing the right thing.
l.d.
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:53 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Sam Heywood wrote:
>> Do any of you folks know if there are different versions of
>> HIMEM.SYS?
> Sure, for instance the switch "/TestMem:Off" isn't available on all
> (MS-DOS, dunno about the others)
>> If there are different versions, which versions work with which
>> versions of DOS?
> I think any will work. I haven't heard of a .sys file that required any
> certain version (but if so it could be fixed with "setver").
>> Do any of you know of a download site for HIMEM.SYS?
> Nope, try to find complete downloads of DOS if you want it.
> Why do you ask? Perhaps someone use less memmory then the other? The hunt
> for the almighty free byte in low memmory continues...
> //Bernie
> http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:03:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: acrodos link update...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
[snip, snip, snip]
| What we can do, for this .PDF upbreak <g>, problem is see if
| there is any DOS Unility, on the web that will convert these "new"
| style files to "old" style files, or convert them to ASCII of such.
| The "guru" of postscript is, of Don Lancaster, down in Arizona..
| I am going to query him for his thoughts on the feasiblity of such
| converting, in general....I'll get back to you if he has interesting
| and applicable feedback...
Have you tried ghostscript? There is still a DOS version of GS 5.10
available (no DOS version of GS 5.50, so it is also disappearing, but the
source is there if you want to compile it...).
Ghostscript 5.1 on this machine (Caldera Linux) reads ".pdf" files. I
believe it will also convert to ".ps".
Ghostscript homepages:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
Regards
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Gregor J Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boston MA
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:03:39 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TSR virus checkers
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 07:10:16 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:44:01 +0200, Dain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What for you need TSR virus check ?
>> Why don't use simple scanner such as Dr.Web or NortonAV ?
> Sergei......I can only partially answer you.....you ask questions
> which make me dig into my preferences.....but, one reason
> I want tsr virus checker to monitor when something writes to
> any sensitive areas on my system.....I don't know Dr.Web, but
> NortonAV works well and I use it, but, expecially on this box,
> I want a SMALL tsr to sit as watchman.....My Dr, Panda stuff
> interfers with Arachne (and even my mouse driver, if I don't
> load it first), and I haven't had much time to test/config
> on it much, and still don't have it.....
> My CMOS Bios Virus check function is the only thing I
> have running now....and I am slightly nervous about running
> around the web, without as much protection as possible
> Maybe I'm just being paranoid....your questions made me
> question whether this is true or not....thanks for questions.
> gregy
Gregy,
Not to worry... you are almost 100% safe while browsing with Arachne.
(or any other DOS browser)
Unlike Windows browsers, DOS browsers will _not_ do anything unless
_you_ tell them to.
Any .EXE file that you download from the web will simply be saved to
disk.
(unless you change the MIME.CFG file in your main Arachne directory).
Mime.cfg tells Arachne what to do with each type of file that is D/Led.
If a certain type of file is not named in Mime.cfg, the only thing that
Arachne _can_ do is save it to disk.
- --
Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:35:31
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A way to let DOS apps to access Winmodems and USB modem
On 5 Jan 00 at 4:30, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>I thought DOS programs running in a DOS window under Win9x or NT were already
>>able to access a Winmodem without shareware utility. But anybody buying a new
>>computer or new modem is naturally better off getting a real modem. PCI does
>>not make a modem Windows-only; a PCI modem with full hardware can run from Lin
>>ux
>>or other non-Windows. Actiontec is one example:
>>http://www.actiontec.com/products/modems/cwi/index.html as of a few months ago
ViP is not a shareware utility, but a commercial program licensed to
many computer and peripheral original equipment manufacturers (OEM)
that include it with their computers, modems, etc. According to their
web site, 3/4 of their revenue from this program are from OEM
licenses and 1/4 from end users like you or me. This might be why
some PCs with Lose/Winmodems will run DOS apps that need a real comm
port to talk to.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
I work 40 hours a week to be this poor.
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:41:36 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A way to let DOS apps to access Winmodems and USB modem
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:34:54, Dale Mentzer wrote:
> On 4 Jan 00 at 1:37, Dev Teelucksingh wrote:
>>> There is a shareware Win9x utility called ViP, which allows DOS
>>> programs to access a Windows-only communications device under
>>> Win 9x. These include Winmodems, USB modems, and PCI modems.
>>> You can download a demo at http://www.turbocom.com/vip.html
> Thanks, Dev, some interesting reading at their site. Happy New Year
> to you too, Dev.
> Regards,
> Dale Mentzer
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Yes, there is some interesting reading there.
Using a Windoze 95 machine, I have found that I can get a WinModem to work
while in DOS mode provided I click on
START > SHUT DOWN > RESTART IN MS-DOS MODE.
The WinModem won't work from a "DOS-box", nor will it work if I hit F8 just
before Windoze boots, and then select "Command prompt only". In any event
it will not run large DOS communications apps such as Bobcat and Arachne.
It seems that the Windoze drivers are hungry for the conventional DOS
memory.
One thing I don't understand:
Why will the WinModem work if I click on "Restart in MS-DOS mode", but it
will not work in a "DOS-box", nor will it work from the F8 > "Command
prompt only" method of accessing DOS? Does anybody know the answer?
I sure don't understand it. It would seem to me that the same Windoze
drivers would be running in the background even when you are in a "DOS-box",
or similarly if you resort to the F8 > "Command prompt only" method.
Another thing I don't understand:
Why do most consumers want to buy machines with WinModems? So, maybe they
save about $40.00 in buying a machine with an inferior modem, but they lose
out on the advantages of having an otherwise superior machine when the
computer's system resources are bogged down by the WinModem.
And here is something else I don't understand:
Why do most Windozing consumers think that it is best to buy a modem that
is advertised as "designed especially for Windows 95"? Don't most people
know that the best modems are those that are *not* designed especially for
their particular operating system? Anyone who knows what he is doing
doesn't need to "plug and pray".
Sam Heywood
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Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:05:40 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Happu Y2K ;-))))
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 04:30:23 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Sam Heywood,
> What kind of computer do you have that won't boot at < 65 F ambient temperature
> and crashes at 85 F? Is there a CPU fan? CPU generates heat while running,
> which may explain why it won't boot at < 65 F, but will continue if already
> running.
Hello Thomas:
According to a recent post by Glenn McCorkle, a computer is supposed to
be able to operate from temperatures as low as 20 F. and as high as
120 F. ( If my memory is serving me well, I believe those are the figures
he mentioned. )
My computer is an Acer 386sx., ca. 1990. It has no CPU fan, but it does
have a fan to blow hot air out of the case and to suck cooler air back
inside the case. If running, it will crash if the ambient temperature falls
to around 35 F. If turned off, it cannot be made to boot again unless the
ambient temperature is approx. in the range of > 65 F. and < 85 F. If left
running, it will continue to operate even if ambient temperatures should
rise to the 90's. Also, if turned off for a long period, it won't boot for
at least 15 minutes after being turned on. The hard drive always spins up
immediately. I think it is about time to replace the motherboard. My
computer didn't used to suffer from any temperature-related quirks a couple
of years ago.
<snip>
Sam Heywood
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