arachne-digest Monday, January 10 2000 Volume 01 : Number 933
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:35:09 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Load EPPPD on COMPAQ 590
Hi
Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CV> Michael, take a look at Ricisi's post and try changing "HIGHSCAN" to
CV> "RAM"
I think he uses emm386 noems highscan
Highscan is OK ... it seems to work for him.
(if it would not work, than the computer crashes on every boot)
And noems means no ems ;) and use UMBs
RAM means EMS _AND_ UMB
So IMHO this is correct.
CV> - Clarence Verge
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:20:33 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions?
On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 22:07:52 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>> I should like to insert my comments too.
>> You cannot read any disk partition > 32 MB with DOS 3.30.
>> According to a manual I have for MS-DOS 3.31, this version likewise is
>> not capapble of reading a drive > 32 MB. I don't have a manual for
>> my COMPAQ DOS 3.31. I do know that COMPAQ DOS 3.31 is capapble of reading
>> a 100 MB Iomega Zip Drive. I know because I've done it. I don't know how
>> large a partition COMPAQ DOS 3.31 will recognize on a hard drive.
> Hi Sam;
> Hmmm. Peter Norton seems to think MS-DOS 3.31 WILL recognize big partitions.
> Can you tell from the manual just what the difference between 3.30 and 3.31
> might be ? Could it be possible that that portion of the manual was not
> updated from 3.30 ?
It does seem to me that some portions of the manual, especially the portion
describing how to use FDISK, might not have been upgraded from the manual for
DOS 3.30.
Under the subject heading "What's New" I find the following:
"Performance improvements. Several internal enhancements and a new command,
fastopen, improve MS-DOS performance, especially with applications that use
many files.
Support for 1.44 megabyte, 3 1/2 inch disks.
Support for four serial (COM) ports. Previous versions of MS-DOS supported
two.
Enhancements to config.sys commands, including buffers, stacks, device.
MS-DOS 3.30 [ sic., typo?] also includes a new config.sys command, country.
Ability to use partititions larger than 32 megabytes. You can create
extended partitions larger than 32 mega-bytes with fdisk.
Improved national language support. MS-DOS 3.3 [sic., typo?] offers the
ability to to select alternate language-specific character sets (called
code pages) instead of the standard U.S, character set. Three new commands-
chcp, nlsfunc, and select, and several enhanced MS-DOS commands, including
keyb and mode support code page selection. In addition the config.sys
command, country, and two installable deveice drivers allow you to select
language-specific code pages.
Enhanced batch processing capapbilities.
Ability to make a system disk formatted by an earlier version of MS-DOS
bootable with MS-DOS 3.3 [sic., typo?]. This is possible because MS-DOS
3.3 [sic., typo?] allows the io.sys system file to be non-contiguous on the
disk.
Various enhancements to existing commands, including
append
attrib
backup
date
format
graphics
keyboard
mode
restore
time"
>From the above quoted information, it appears that some of the above refers
to what's new in MS-DOS 3.3, and some paragraphs refer to what's new in
MS-DOS 3.31. Some differences remain quite unclear.
Sam Heywood
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:46:09 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Flag Linux
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:59:16 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote:
> Here's an interesting link concerning Chinese Gov.
> ban on Windows 2000.
> http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/dailynews/microsoft_chi
> na000106.html
> I understand there are more current reports that the
> Chinese government has recanted this, saying that they
> look forward to using win 2000.
> Thanks,
> Michael L. Dawley
> Pearl, Mississippi
> Compudyne 486DX4-100
I just now tried to access the above-named URL. Received a notice
saying that the particular report I was looking for is not there.
Typo in name of URL?
Sam Heywood
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:19:44 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dos memory (KB)
Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>> B> It's what's reserved by default (in MS-DOS anyway) unless you let the
>> B> computer actually use it for something (and that's what the emm386
switch
>> B> "highscan" does IIRC.
>> No ... it's the switch RAM !!! (or noems)
>> Highscan makes EMM use a VERY aggressive method to search for additional
>> memory. (computer may crash, when this switch is used)
Oh, well I've always used both of them (noems and highscan) this is IMHO a
good practice.
>I need to know if what I am using for my config.sys is still ok
>in light of the above.
>DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN
>BUFFERS=20,0
>FILES=75
>DOS=HIGH,UMB
>LASTDRIVE=E
>FCBS=16,8
>DEVICEHIGH /L:1,12048 =C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
>SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ E:1024 /p
This is of course depending on your view. IMO You should drop the /L: part
when you're loading setver. The FCBS might be a little high as well (since
they are mostly used for really old programs IIRC). Some here will argue
about the buffers and files statments beeing to large, quite frankly I have
no idea if these are any good (nor if mine are) <g>. Others on this list
can probably inform us on which is best suited for them.
But what I also would do is increase the lastdrive statment. But that's
might be since I like to use SUBST if I need an easy way to reach two
diffrent directories on the same partition (ex. "subst u: k:\prog" (T is my
first free drive - but I've always liked U for some reason)). Also usefull
if you have a network and need to map another computers HD/CD.
You could also put command.com on a RAMDrive and use that one as your shell
(requires changes to autoexce.bat) this way smartdrv doesn't need to
remember that specific file which comes up from time to time. Of course
with low memmory this is probably a bad thing to do.
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:36:38 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS-DOS 3.3? (was: HIMEM.SYS...)
Sam Heywood wrote:
>Ability to use partititions larger than 32 megabytes. You can create
>extended partitions larger than 32 mega-bytes with fdisk.
Can one create partitions under 32 MB with the "new" versions (ie. 6.2 or
DR-DOS 7.0x)?
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:37:54 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Flag Linux
Sam Heywood wrote:
>I just now tried to access the above-named URL. Received a notice
>saying that the particular report I was looking for is not there.
>
>Typo in name of URL?
You need to add it together like this:
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/dailynews/microsoft_china000106.html
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:39:37 +0000
From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Test Time/date
Hi Gangue,
Someone please confirm time/date settings are correct?
I have re-set this machine to
8.36 p.m. (20.36 hrs) Sunday 9th January 2000
and in the process discovered the time rollover goes from 1980 to 2099!
Somehow I don't think 2099 will worry me too much, I'd be a 158 years
old if I saw it!
Regards
Mel
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:59:48 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Flag Linux
On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:46:09 -0400, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> I just now tried to access the above-named URL. Received a notice
> saying that the particular report I was looking for is not there.
> Typo in name of URL?
> Sam Heywood
Yes,
See my later post correcting that.
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
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Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:17:14 +0100 (CET)
From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing from Arachne under DOS thru Windows (phew =)
Hello.
**NOTE** this message just expresses what I think/believe - not
neccesarily facts =) so please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere-
Re: using Windows software to print under DOS:
I just don't think you can run them/it under plain DOS. Think about it -
Win uses tons of DLLs, internal system calls, and other weird stuff. Some
stuff requires special initialisation etc (as in *drivers*, like, printer
drivers). Others may use Win32s - which of course means MORE APIs to
support.
That doesn't mean there doesn't exist simple programs that could just as
well have been DOS programs - those who don't use anything Windows except
the EXE header. BUT, they are very rare, as people tend to put in stuff in
programs that aren't plain DOS calls (ie. windows/DLL calls/etc etc).
Of course you could run a Windows program under DOS - if you could make it
"self-contained", ie. it does it's stuff without the Win kernel, that is,
includes a kernel inside itself, includes all DLLs, has a DOS EXE header
(not a Windows one), und so weiter till no end.
So, I think usage of PRINTMAN is (at least almost) impossible under DOS,
unless you want to REWRITE it. But, if you rewrite it, why not write a
plain printer driver instead of Yet Another Windows Emulator which
includes a PRINTMAN and lots of drivers for every known printer?
To keep this at least a BIT on topic....:
With all this said, why not make an Arachne printer driver
interface? Michael? (that is, unless running PS through GS is a better
(386+) solution...=)
Just my $0.02,
/petri
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:38:48 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Secure web sites
Hello:
Could anyone please refer me to a web site that would explain the
theory involved in the establishment of a so-called "secure web-site"
or a "secure link" to a web site?
As most of us surely know, a "secure" web site is used to place on-line
orders and to transmit over the internet some sensitive data, such as
a credit card number. Surely there would be very little security if
such data were transmitted in the clear.
I do not understand how I could encrypt my credit card number, transmit
the encrypted number, and then have the recipient to decrypt the number
unless the recipient had a compatible decryption engine and had
knowledge of the original encryption key (i.e the password or pass
phrase that I use to encrypt the data). It would seem that somehow
this kind of thing is what would have to happen when using a "secure"
web site. How does this kind of "magic" work?
If no one knows of a web site that explains how this system works,
is there some one out there who can explain in a nutshell how this
system is supposed to work?
Sam Heywood
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:50:35 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS-DOS 3.3? (was: HIMEM.SYS...)
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:36:38 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sam Heywood wrote:
>> Ability to use partititions larger than 32 megabytes. You can create
>> extended partitions larger than 32 mega-bytes with fdisk.
> Can one create partitions under 32 MB with the "new" versions (ie. 6.2 or
> DR-DOS 7.0x)?
> //Bernie
I would certainly suppose so. A higher version of DOS should be able
to do anything a lower version can do. A few exceptions might be
noted in some cases.
Sam Heywood
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:00:25 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PDF to Text [was Re: acrodos link update...
Steven,
The PDF problem is that drawings, illustrations, tech diagrams, even
illustration of what is where on board/card are graphics. Graphics
don't convert very well to text.
l.d.
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 14:47:23 +0000, Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Clarence Verge wrote:
>> There is only ONE version of acrobat for DOS and, although
>> it is worth trying, and works VERY well for early .pfds,
>> these a***oles at Adobe keep changing the standard
>> So, while it won't crash your hardware, I find it useless
>> for viewing technical docs made available by most electronic
>> and semiconductor manufacturers - unless the file was created
>> before 1997.
> I suppose you know about the pdf-to-text converter at:
> ------------------
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ------------------
> Simply put the URL of the PDF file in the body of your
> message.
> Cheers,
> Steven
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:32:28 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thumb Screws
Gregy,
Take a look at http://www.Dalco.com
I think I've seen them there. Why would they have them when "no on
else" does? Dalco caters to office networks and keeps on hand all the
cables & hubs and cases and etc etc etc to run a network of any sort,
parallel or serial or ... and when you run net servers you often are
breaking open cases -- so you'd like to have a way to open case without
grabbing nut/screw drivers.
No warranty that they have them, however.
l.d.
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 09:26:20 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:02:18 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I have my case in place but no screws installed. Cuts down on the drive/fan
>> noise. You can buy thumb type case screws that do not require a tool to
>> install/remove if you want the convenience of easy access and still be able
>> to install your cover.
> Dale....Where..? Jameco.? JDR.?...DigiKey.?...I've never seen any.
> gregy
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:41:26 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oldies but goodies [was Re: HIMEM.SYS, are there different versions?
Clarence,
Just for you I went digging. Found original DOS installation diskettes
for DOS 3.01. Hunted some more, found original installation diskettes
for DOS 3.30A. Sorry, can't find DOS 3.31 for you ... :(
l.d.
On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:26:27 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Hi L.D.;
> Well, it looks like one more person may understand why I use DOS 3.3
> instead of the latest FAT #%*@.
> I DO wish I could find an upgrade to 3.31 tho.
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Date: Sat 08 Jan 2000
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New search engine.
Sergei,
Thanks much for the "heads up!" I went, took a look, gave it a try,
placed it on my hotlist, and spent toooooooo much time seeing where it
led. <G>
Yah done good!
l.d.
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 17:29:40 +0200, Dain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When surfing over The Net i found one very intersting
> search engine/catalog.
> It name is "Open Directory Project" and it maitained by
> Netscape and have incredible relevance of all links.
> Also it must work perfectly with Arachne - (size of root
> page 5K, pure html + 1 small image !!!).
> Take a look. It worth it. As for me it much better than
> Yahoo.
> It adress is http://dmoz.org
> Sergei
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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:13:03 +0100 (CET)
From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Secure web sites
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Could anyone please refer me to a web site that would explain the
> theory involved in the establishment of a so-called "secure web-site"
> or a "secure link" to a web site?
Here it
is: <http://developer.netscape.com/tech/security/ssl/protocol.html>
You should find most of the info you need over there. (This applies to you
too, Michael, if you plan to create SSL-Arachne =)
Feel free to mail any further questions to me, I'll try to find answers to
them....
/petri
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:24:01 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Flag Linux
On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:46:09 -0400, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:59:16 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>> Here's an interesting link concerning Chinese Gov.
>> ban on Windows 2000.
>> http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/dailynews/microsoft_chi
>> na000106.html
>> I understand there are more current reports that the
>> Chinese government has recanted this, saying that they
>> look forward to using win 2000.
>> Thanks,
>> Michael L. Dawley
>> Pearl, Mississippi
>> Compudyne 486DX4-100
> I just now tried to access the above-named URL. Received a notice
> saying that the particular report I was looking for is not there.
> Typo in name of URL?
> Sam Heywood
The URL line got split by Michael D.'s mailer.
Try this link instead.....
http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/dailynews/microsoft_china000106.html
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North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:25:30 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Test Time/date
Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote:
>
> Someone please confirm time/date settings are correct?
Looks OK to me Mel.
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:21:41 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (OT) Win Printman (was Re: Acrodos)
Clarence Verge wrote:
>
> I DO think I saw something at simtelnet about running W31 without a GUI.
Update on the above:
I found it at: http://www.phys.uu.nl/~faber/Windows_No_GUI/
I have made some initial tests and thought I should post this note to help
anyone headed the same way. I downloaded the Win311.zip and my first
comment is that this version was designed for Win for workgroups.
No matter. If you want to try it with Win311 just ignore his references to
all files required EXCEPT win386.exe.
Using his system.ini as a template only, create your own new system.ini by
extracting ONLY the [386enhan] section of your EXISTING system.ini. There may
be portions of this you can delete - I removed all references to comports.
Remember to save your existing system.ini AND make a copy of krnl386.exe too.
I re-wrote his batch file to make the necessary automatic name changes and file
copies on entry/exit so I could use my existing files.
The first test worked well. I got windows to take me to a dos prompt.<g>
The second test worked FAIRLY well. I got printmanager to load and exit
without crying about the lack of windows.<G>
The third test is now working as I'm in Netscape writing this so I haven't
trashed my windows setup.<VBG>
The next thing is to find out how to pass the required file information to
printmanager.
Any more ideas out there ?
p.s. Those more interested in Win 9x will also find some ideas there.
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 18:12:40 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no packet driver found
On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:09:25 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am wondering why the file ppp.log is not found on
> a computer that has a successful connection to the
> internet.
PPP.LOG gets deleted when you hangup the connection.
- ---from arachne.bat---
:termin
termin.com 0x60
del ppp.log
goto end
<snip>
:end
if exist $roura?.bat del $roura?.bat
if exist %ARACHNETEMP%\$roura$.bat del %ARACHNETEMP%\$roura$.bat
if exist %TEMP%\$roura$.bat del %TEMP%\$roura$.bat
if exist *._$b del *._$b
if exist %ARACHNETEMP%\*._$b del %ARACHNETEMP%\*._$b
if exist %TEMP%\*._$b del %TEMP%\*._$b
if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat
if exist ppp.log echo Type 'arachne -u' to terminate SLIP/PPP connection.
if exist lock del lock
echo.
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> On this computer, a Compudyne, I am using Arachne,
> but on my other computer, the COMPAQ 575, I cannot
> get past the "no packet driver found" item to connect
> to the internet, but CAN locate the file ppp.log.
> I wanted to compare the two, and perhaps modify that
> file on the COMPAQ 575 to resemble the ppp.log file
> on this Compudyne, so that the COMPAQ could read the
> IP address set to message from file PPP.LOG as per
> the check box in External Dialer setup.
> Thanks,
> Michael L. Dawley
> Pearl, Mississippi
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North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 17:29:47 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (OT) memory management... was, Load EPPPD on COMPAQ 590
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:47:53 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
<snip>
> Use these in config.sys:
> device=c:\dos\himem.sys /TestMem:Off
> device=c:\dos\emm386.exe noems highscan
> dos=high,umb
Bernie,
I like that config.sys.
A perfect example of KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid)<g>
Let's put that one and a few others to the test........
Scroll down if interested.
(anyone not interested may delete this message now)<g>
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- ---this 1 line autoexec.bat was used for all tests---
c:\opendos\mem >> c:\drmsqemm.txt
- -----------------------------------------------------
(Test #1)
- --- DR/OpenDos config.sys (himem)---
rem OPENDOS 7.01
DEVICE=C:\OPENDOS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
- ------------------------------------
Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs
Conventional 654,336 ( 639K ) 636,672 ( 622K )
High 65,520 ( 64K ) 16,396 ( 16K )
Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K )
Extended via XMS -------- 65,994,752 ( 64,448K )
Largest executable program: 636,656 ( 622K )
Total Free DOS memory: 636,672 ( 622K )
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Test #2)
- --- DR/OpenDos config.sys (emm386)---
rem OPENDOS 7.01
DEVICE=C:\OPENDOS\EMM386.EXE DPMI=OFF FRAME=AUTO /R=AUTO
DOS=HIGH,UMB
- -------------------------------------
Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs
Conventional 654,336 ( 639K ) 639,456 ( 624K )
Upper 98,304 ( 96K ) 39,920 ( 39K )
High 65,520 ( 64K ) 0 ( 0K )
Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K )
Extended via XMS -------- 15,216,640 ( 14,860K )
EMS 33,554,432 ( 32,768K ) 33,554,432 ( 32,768K )
Largest executable program: 639,440 ( 624K )
Total Free DOS memory: 679,376 ( 663K )
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
(Test #3)
- --- DR/OpenDos config.sys (himem and emm386)---
rem OPENDOS 7.01
DEVICE=C:\OPENDOS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OPENDOS\EMM386.EXE DPMI=OFF FRAME=AUTO /R=AUTO
DOS=HIGH,UMB
- ------------------------------------
- ---this message was shown----
HIMEM.SYS 2.3
EMM386 3.06 Copyright (c) 1992, 1994 Caldera, Inc. All rights reserved.
EMM386: HIMEM.SYS is installed. This EMM386 does not require HIMEM.SYS.
Having both HIMEM.SYS and EMM386 loaded reduces available memory
and performance.
Frame=C800 Kb=32768
Caldera OpenDOS 7.01
Copyright (c) 1976, 1997 Caldera, Inc.
All rights reserved.
LICENSED FOR NON-COMMERCIAL USE ONLY
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Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs
Conventional 654,336 ( 639K ) 636,160 ( 621K )
Upper 98,304 ( 96K ) 88,576 ( 87K )
High 65,520 ( 64K ) 16,396 ( 16K )
Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K )
Extended via XMS -------- 65,581,056 ( 64,044K )
EMS 33,554,432 ( 32,768K ) 33,554,432 ( 32,768K )
Largest executable program: 636,144 ( 621K )
Total Free DOS memory: 724,736 ( 708K )
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(Test #4)
I used an old MsDos 6.2 diskette to do this test.
(same autoexec.bat was used)
- ---MS config.sys---
device=a:\msdos6_2\himem.sys /TestMem:Off
device=a:\msdos6_2\emm386.exe noems highscan
dos=high,umb
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Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs
Conventional 655,360 ( 640K ) 633,136 ( 618K )
Upper 133,984 ( 131K ) 129,840 ( 127K )
Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K )
Extended via XMS -------- 65,617,920 ( 64,080K )
Largest executable program: 633,040 ( 618K )
Total Free DOS memory: 762,976 ( 745K )
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(Test #5)
- ---Qemm config.sys---
rem OPENDOS 7.01
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ARAM=CB80-CBFF R:1 ST:M
S=FF00-FFFF UR=1M:80M
(QEMM386.SYS line split for eMail format)
device=c:\qemm\dos-up.sys @c:\qemm\dos-up.dat
DOS=HIGH,UMB
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Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs
Conventional 655,360 ( 640K ) 644,032 ( 629K )
Upper 307,040 ( 300K ) 190,272 ( 186K )
High 65,520 ( 64K ) 16,396 ( 16K )
Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K )
EMS 83,017,728 ( 81,072K ) 82,313,216 ( 80,384K )
Largest executable program: 644,016 ( 629K )
Total Free DOS memory: 834,304 ( 815K )
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You may draw your own conclusions from these tests.
I'll keep using QEMM.
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Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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