arachne-digest Tuesday, January 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 937 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:23:49 +0000 From: "Vicki & Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:sys op, himem Hello, all. I have recently been playing around with my config files and have discovered that the emm386.exe, himem.sys and smartdrv.exe from win 3.11 work very well for msdos 5. the emm386.exe loads high given room. These in conjunction with these other files posted on this list by Dev Teelucksingh on 5\1\2000. ctmouse - smaller and better mouse driver. loads high dosed - better choice for doskey. loads high. shsucdx - replacement for mscdex. xmsdsk - replacement for ramdrive. loads high. Have only been running this setup for a couple of days but I think. I am getting the fastest site loading and downloads I have had so far. I am attaching copies of autoexec.bat and config.sys for interested parties, these can also be seen on my home page (not on the composer page). The other attachment is copies of my memory in three different states ob bootup and with arachne and epppd loaded. Wayne This mail was written by Vicki & Wayne users of Arachne. :[EMAIL PROTECTED] :-Http://www.fan.net.au/~vickidos - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ [Attached file: autoexec.bat] [Attached file: config.sys] [Attached file: memfile.txt] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:32:02 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Re: (OT) memory management... was, Load EPPPD on COMPAQ 590 Hi "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: LB> I've seen mention of dropping the page frame, If you don't use EMS, you gain additional 64 KB of UMBs LB> and wondered about why UBM should be selected when NOUMB is the default. Because otherwise you can't use UMBs. (memory above 640K) LB> But when I go to Manifest it clearly shows that the page frame 64K is LB> placed *above* the 1Mb portion of memory. Nope !!! it is between 640K and 1 MB QEMM has the ability to page the EMS Pageframe into the ROM Area. (which is below 1 MB) EMS Pageframe must be under 1 MB. (EMS has existed in the 8086 era !!) LB> So getting rid of the page frame wouldn't make any addition memory LB> available for loading EPPPD high. It would !! LB> l.d. CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> A .45 beats a royal flush EVERY TIME <=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:37:39 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Re: Secure web sites Hi "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: LB> But I think I know how the "secure" websites work. Hmm ... this is not what most people understand as a secure website. A secure website is secured against lurking through encryption the contents of the communication. That's it. LB> Bottom Line: The purchaser doesn't encrypt anything. Yes he does ! He (the user's browser) encrypts it, and it is sent away encrypted. Than it arrives at the other end (server) which does with the data what he wants. LB> l.d. CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> When in Rome, do as the Romans <=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:10:14 +0000 From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Acrodos On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 06:02:06 +0100, Clarence Verge wrote: > Subject: Re: Acrodos > If I recall, that dgi is supposed to invoke a download of Ghostscript > - - but I could be mistaken. I might just load up Ghostscript and try it. > Eek! If it really DOES start a download, you could be there for a VERY long time!! When I clicked on the USE GHOSTSCRIPT button, it invited me to search for an API. Was I any the wiser? Assuming that GS is already installed (mine is), all that is really needed is a means of running a batch file and passing the name of a PS file to it - isn't it? Ron. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:18:32 +0000 From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #931 On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 06:02:06 +0100, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > OK, thanks a lot for the suggestion Ron. I'll certainly check this out > when I get around to it. I would suppose that the "power good" signal > is OK because my hard drive always spins up immediately, and it remains > spinning even after a crash condition occurs. > I might worry about assuming that "power good" is above suspicion. If, for example, the +5V line was at 4.5V (all figures ficticious, but you'll see the idea!), then the "power good" line might be saying "power NOT good" but the HDD might be quite content to run up and do its thing, since not everything in life is as fussy about spot-on correct supplies as a motherboard is. On the other hand, if the "power good" detector in the PSU is actually duff, it might be saying "power NOT good" when power is just fine. That'll still reset the CPU but not worry peripherals. What you really would need to do is to monitor the signal on "power good" and see what it was up to when things got chilly! Since it's easily accessible and measurable, maybe that's a good place to start? It's just possible that the signal may only be INTERMITTENTLY wrong when cold (noise/ripple on line) so that an oscilloscope would be more likely to spot the problem than the meter would. Hope I haven't fogged the issue more!! Ron. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:18:48 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #929 >From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: NewDeal [ was Re: Re-using old systems] > >I took a look, and must heartily disagree that they complement Arachne. > >They would probably, if they could, stop Arachne in its tracks. They >sell their own internet "suite" complete with browser, etc ... or so >they say. They have a very bad quality browser (no frames support, serious JPG problems, unstable connection). They also sell a better suite of internet apps separately, but again it's not up to scratch - problems with large e-mails and attachments in particular. >Despite their talk of being an alternative to "bloated >software" they seem to produce their own brand ... things that must run >together and won't run seperately. There are many definitions of bloat. Their system is lean in the sense that object orientation and object reuse is taken seriously, which lets them provide an environment and applications on a par with win95+MS office in a much smaller footprint. We're used to Arachne, so we know that modern applications can run on older hardware. Most people would be surprised to find a WIMP GUI and modern office suite can run on anything from a 286 with 1 Meg of memory up. >I found their demo, which supposedly includes their web browser. They >do have something disquised as a Comm program but I couldn't find how to >use it, how to write scripts for dialer [that was one option], or how to >set up the module to use it to access ISP & web. They have a terminal ('NewComm' :-) and also a browser (skipper). There's no dialer, skipper dials when it needs to once the Modem & Internet settings have been given. Those settings are an obstacle race unfortunately. As I said the Internet apps are their weak point. There's no mail client in the demo version. >There doesn't appear to be anything new in all the files that came down >with the demo. These folks bought out GeoWorks apparently... Geoworks is still in business. They have rewritten their software for the PDA and handheld markets, and their OS powered the Omnigo and Zoomer early PDAs, as well as the Nokia webphone. They've licensed the old software to NewDeal for desktops, and NewDeal is mostly staffed by former Geoworks employees. >and the >internal copyright dates are 1991 despite the fact there are some files >that are externally dated 97 & 98. Much of the original GEOS techniques are still essential to the system, but the NewDeal product has brought improvements to stability, new features in the office apps and the internet libraries (what is now NewDeal was going to be GEOS 3.0, but Geoworks turned to the PDA market and never released its version 3 for the desktop). There's more 3rd party applications, in particular in multimedia, internet (again), and programming languages/development environments (including a Visual Basic clone). >And it is bloatware. The demo installation package is more than 5Mb and >installed it takes ~10Mb. It offers facilities comparable to Win 3.x and Win9x. Compared to the size of those, it is an improvement. >It tries to immitate windows as much as >possible, including where you click on screen to do things, how you >move, many of the commands, etc. It is very GUI filled. There's a choice of two interfaces: the old GEOS one and an "industry standard interface" - basically, a win9x look and feel. The software is marketed to schools as an alternative to MS OSs, so they had to offer a similar interface. >Just out of curiosity I'd like to run it, but I'm not about to attempt >to figure out how to setup the Comm section... Definitely hard work. >...and they don't even have >the right drivers for my printer -- although I was able to "make do" >with a "near model" for b&w printing. GEOS and now NewDeal users have been deploring the absence of drivers for years --- printers, scanners, sound cards, video, you name it. Hardware manufacturers won't develop for an OS that has such a small share of the market. NewDeal say they are working on print drivers between other things. >So if anyone has enough spare >time to actually get the demo comm programs up and running, lemme know >how. I did notice that they apparently have tcpip, slip, ppp & lan >socket stuff ... but found no way to integrate it into use within comm >program window. NewComm only provides basic facilities. You can use it to check NewDeal 'sees' you modem. Try setting the intranet & modem settings, then getting a page in skipper (just enter a URL). NewDeal has quite a lot of support documents on its website, including some about intermet configuration. You can also get help from comp.os.geos.misc. Charles PS. Apologies to anybody who found this has been a long off-topic mail. I won't do that too often. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:17:11 +0200 From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NewDeal [ was Re: Re-using old systems] Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote: > >They would probably, if they could, stop Arachne in its tracks. They > >sell their own internet "suite" complete with browser, etc ... or so > >they say. I wouldnt think so. Arachne is a full-screen browser, with NewDeal offering a "windowed" browser. Its all a matter of choice from here. > They have a very bad quality browser (no frames support, serious JPG > problems, unstable connection). I managed to run NewDeal's internet applications without a problem. (the ones that came in the demo, anyway.) The connection is done by PAP/CHAP only (no scripts.. I think.). The browser was actually Ok. Abit unstable, though. It crashed several times on really big/heavy sites. I think that there was frames support.. it was a few months ago so its hard to remember. Will have to run it again and see. No animated gifs as far as I could tell. The setup of the dialer is done from the Control Panel. (there should be an option marked as "internet" in there.). The browser, or whatever internet utility used call up the dialer automaticly. (you need to input a URL in Skipper in order to make it dial.). Disconnection is done either manualy, or after afew minutes if there is no communication. Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." - ----------------------------- http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:24:06 +0000 From: "Vicki & Wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:sys op, himem * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947611446 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, all. I have recently been playing around with my config files and have discovered that the emm386.exe, himem.sys and smartdrv.exe from win 3.11 work very well for msdos 5. the emm386.exe loads high given room. These in conjunction with these other files posted on this list by Dev Teelucksingh on 5\1\2000. ctmouse - smaller and better mouse driver. loads high dosed - better choice for doskey. loads high. shsucdx - replacement for mscdex. xmsdsk - replacement for ramdrive. loads high. Have only been running this setup for a couple of days but I think. I am getting the fastest site loading and downloads I have had so far. I am attaching copies of autoexec.bat and config.sys for interested parties, these can also be seen on my home page (not on the composer page). The other attachment is copies of my memory in three different states ob bootup and with arachne and epppd loaded. Wayne sorry missed those attachments try again This mail was written by Vicki & Wayne users of Arachne. :[EMAIL PROTECTED] :-Http://www.fan.net.au/~vickidos - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947611446 Content-Type: application/octet-stream ;name=autoexec.bat Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 cmVtIEBlY2hvIG9mZg0KYzpcZG9zXHNtYXJ0ZHJ2LmV4ZQ0KYzpcc3lzZmlsZVxyZGlza1xl bXNkc2sgNTEzNCBEOiAveQ0KYzpcc3lzZmlsZVxuZXdjZFxzaHN1Y2R4LmV4ZSAvRDpNU0NE MDAxDQpDOlxDVE1PVVNFXENUTU9VU0UgLzINClNFVCBTT1VORD1DOlxTQjE2DQpTRVQgQkxB U1RFUj1BMjIwIEk1IEQxIEg1IFAzMzAgVDYNClNFVCBNSURJPVNZTlRIOjEgTUFQOkUNCmxo IEM6XFNCMTZcRElBR05PU0UgL1MNCmxoIEM6XFNCMTZcTUlYRVJTRVQgL1AgL1ENClBST01Q VCAkcCRnDQpQQVRIIEM6XERPUztDOlxNT1VTRTtjOlxhcmFjaG5lO0M6XG1vc2xvdztjOlxw a3o7Yzpcc2Q1MDA7DQpTRVQgVEVNUD1EOlxURU1QDQpsaCBjOlxzeXNmaWxlXGRvc2VkXGRv c2VkIC1pDQpkOg0KbWQgY2FjaGUNCm1kIHRlbXANCmM6DQo= - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947611446 Content-Type: application/octet-stream ;name=config.sys Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 REVWSUNFPUM6XERPU1xISU1FTS5TWVMNCkRFVklDRT1DOlxET1NcRU1NMzg2LkVYRSBSQU0g MTIwMDANCkRPUz1ISUdILHVtYg0KRklMRVM9NTAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgDQpCVUZG RVJTPTMwDQpTVEFDS1M9OSwyNTYNCkxBU1REUklWRT1NDQpERVZJQ0VoaWdoPUM6XHNiY2Rc ZHJ2XFNCSURFLlNZUyAvRDpNU0NEMDAxIC9QOjFGMCwxNCAvViAgICANCkRFVklDRUhJR0g9 QzpcU0IxNlxEUlZcQ1RTQjE2LlNZUyAvVU5JVD0wIC9CTEFTVEVSPUE6MjIwIEk6NSBEOjEg SDo1DQpERVZJQ0VISUdIPUM6XFNCMTZcRFJWXENUTU1TWVMuU1lTDQo= - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947611446 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN ;name=memfile.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With epppd loaded from arachne dos shell Conventional Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- MSDOS 17200 ( 16.8K) 4330 HIMEM 1104 ( 1.1K) 450 EMM386 3104 ( 3.0K) C20 COMMAND 2832 ( 2.8K) B10 SHSUCDX 11104 ( 10.8K) 2B60 EPPPD 70144 ( 68.5K) 11200 COMMAND 2896 ( 2.8K) B50 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 176 ( 0.2K) B0 FREE 546304 (533.5K) 85600 Total FREE : 546608 (533.8K) Upper Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- SYSTEM 169104 (165.1K) 29490 SBIDE 17248 ( 16.8K) 4360 CTSB16 21888 ( 21.4K) 5580 CTMMSYS 8064 ( 7.9K) 1F80 SMARTDRV 29008 ( 28.3K) 7150 EMSDSK 608 ( 0.6K) 260 CTMOUSE 6368 ( 6.2K) 18E0 DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 FREE 32 ( 0.0K) 20 FREE 208 ( 0.2K) D0 FREE 6032 ( 5.9K) 1790 Total FREE : 6272 ( 6.1K) Total bytes available to programs (Conventional+Upper) : 552880 (539.9K) Largest executable program size : 546016 (533.2K) Largest available upper memory block : 6032 ( 5.9K) 12681216 bytes total EMS memory 7028736 bytes free EMS memory 15728640 bytes total contiguous extended memory 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory 8024064 bytes available XMS memory MS-DOS resident in High Memory Area Without epppd loaded from arachne dos shell Conventional Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- MSDOS 17200 ( 16.8K) 4330 HIMEM 1104 ( 1.1K) 450 EMM386 3104 ( 3.0K) C20 COMMAND 2832 ( 2.8K) B10 SHSUCDX 11104 ( 10.8K) 2B60 COMMAND 2896 ( 2.8K) B50 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 616656 (602.2K) 968D0 Total FREE : 616784 (602.3K) Upper Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- SYSTEM 169104 (165.1K) 29490 SBIDE 17248 ( 16.8K) 4360 CTSB16 21888 ( 21.4K) 5580 CTMMSYS 8064 ( 7.9K) 1F80 SMARTDRV 29008 ( 28.3K) 7150 EMSDSK 608 ( 0.6K) 260 CTMOUSE 6368 ( 6.2K) 18E0 DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 FREE 32 ( 0.0K) 20 FREE 208 ( 0.2K) D0 FREE 6032 ( 5.9K) 1790 Total FREE : 6272 ( 6.1K) Total bytes available to programs (Conventional+Upper) : 623056 (608.5K) Largest executable program size : 616368 (601.9K) Largest available upper memory block : 6032 ( 5.9K) 12681216 bytes total EMS memory 7028736 bytes free EMS memory 15728640 bytes total contiguous extended memory 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory 8024064 bytes available XMS memory MS-DOS resident in High Memory Area After bootup nothing running except bootup files Conventional Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- MSDOS 17200 ( 16.8K) 4330 HIMEM 1104 ( 1.1K) 450 EMM386 3104 ( 3.0K) C20 COMMAND 2624 ( 2.6K) A40 SHSUCDX 11104 ( 10.8K) 2B60 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 64 ( 0.1K) 40 FREE 619856 (605.3K) 97550 Total FREE : 619984 (605.5K) Upper Memory : Name Size in Decimal Size in Hex - ------------- --------------------- ------------- SYSTEM 169104 (165.1K) 29490 SBIDE 17248 ( 16.8K) 4360 CTSB16 21888 ( 21.4K) 5580 CTMMSYS 8064 ( 7.9K) 1F80 SMARTDRV 29008 ( 28.3K) 7150 EMSDSK 608 ( 0.6K) 260 CTMOUSE 6368 ( 6.2K) 18E0 DOSED 3392 ( 3.3K) D40 FREE 32 ( 0.0K) 20 FREE 208 ( 0.2K) D0 FREE 6032 ( 5.9K) 1790 Total FREE : 6272 ( 6.1K) Total bytes available to programs (Conventional+Upper) : 626256 (611.6K) Largest executable program size : 619648 (605.1K) Largest available upper memory block : 6032 ( 5.9K) 12681216 bytes total EMS memory 7028736 bytes free EMS memory 15728640 bytes total contiguous extended memory 0 bytes available contiguous extended memory 8024064 bytes available XMS memory MS-DOS resident in High Memory Area - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947611446-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:42:05 +0100 From: Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Funny sites Hi Glenn, you wrote on 07.01.00 to "Re: Funny sites": GM> That's it. GM> Arachne.gif will now get attached to every reply. [..] GM> GM> -- GM> Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GM> North Jackson, Ohio, USA GM> Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS GM> Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. GM> http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ GM> GM> --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947128572 GM> Content-Type: IMAGE/GIF ;name=arachne.GIF GM> Content-ID: arachne-namespace/examples\arachne.GIF GM> Content-Description: File "arachne.GIF" (type IMAGE/GIF, size 0 KB) GM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 GM> GM> R0lGODdhWAAfAPMAAAAAAAwMPCREXCx0LFBQUEisRGhoaGRkoJCQkMzMzPz8/AAAAAAAAA GM> AA AAAAAAAAACwAAAAAWAAfAAAE/lDJSau9OOvNM+lgKI4b8SlGoq5Jyr5wLM90baum1LK GM> I4buy wW1ILLJyClXKgFAqU4NBYVWIqqJCo3abQK6Au281m4hOy9ZZk8teeXepnq/pMifG GM> KywN0HZu 32suglRWdldpMQYAYFt8fycJa3RwkXlYZGiYLwAIjmyeRl6DLT5+CQICUaiXq GM> DKlpZ9cSD+0 tT8IAQGou7m7Mp6gnHydAJwrxUDCwMQrxMZdkKM/pr27AtUCiUCwCYsqjj GM> 1PLY7e4d1xLsA4 kJKUcSu6vivym/XfayzkMOrdx9/+0HRUCjMqwYFWqA7Aa/XCR7GHsDw GM> 502evn0WLD4utE7gk 0q0w/gkNMkyQK8C+GBQvpgSIESCojUlMhVFyMJuKkCRzNWQkjp8i GM> cT9V/htqrBNMJ0z8hMMp 0mbJiiclagTmbWhLq4qAiOLxcYbNPmBvzEoUtixYJAXSjpFiQ GM> K3bt2kRyJ1Lt67dA3jz6t27 15q1koADvwHI06zhIYOJGnn5so3RGo3dQMr3zZjGf3wya8 GM> ZXjM4wy/0+d+MT1GInz800no7k KHHLzMlCn5ON+bXszN9SBMON2x/vi6719VbSI5xw37a GM> ZKK990Xaw20OD136MVIXRzsdAsw4U puhw09qtq7a8xvXh87Imo1//SCD790RymJhPv779 GM> +/jz69/Pv7///wAGBShgfREAADs= --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-9471285 GM> 72-- GM> GM> GM> --- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c. Do me a favor, Glenn, and fix your sig dashes from "--" to "-- ", so that my newsreader can cut out everything that is mentioned below ... ;-) Just fill in the blank space behind the two dashes - if your text editor (or InSight in this case) doesn't support spaces at the end of a line, use EDIT.COM from MS-DOS, it will not delete them. Hans-Juergen (desperately fighting for HDD space...) ;-) - -- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## * ZQWKPro v1.1 [unregistered] - -+- OLMS 2000 UNREG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:41:53 +0100 From: Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Merry Christmas Hi Sam, you wrote on 07.01.00 to "Re: Merry Christmas": SWH> Most churches here celebrate Jan 6th as the SWH> day of the arrival of the Three Wise Men, and December 25th as the SWH> date of Christ's birth. Nowadays they would send an e-mail, if they are really wise... ;-) Hans-Juergen - -- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## * ZQWKPro v1.1 [unregistered] - -+- OLMS 2000 UNREG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:42:19 +0100 From: Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: load EPPPD high Hiho Glenn, (me again...) you wrote on 08.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high": >> Type of Memory Total = Used + Free >> ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- [..] >> Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 >> Extended (XMS) 15,537,296 2,335,888 13,201,408 [..] >> Also, I need to know how to load SMARTDRV high. As you can >> see, I have 159K of upper memory, so there should be plenty to >> load both epppd and smartdrv high. >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- GM> But, you can't load _high_ because you don't have any _high memory_ There seems to be some confusion about the different terms that are used to describe the types of memory above 640k, not only on this list, but even at Microsoft, or at least at their translating department in Germany. As I wrote before, the part between the conventional memory and the first 1 MB of the extended memory is called "Upper Memory Blocks" (UMB) and has nothing to do with the "High Memory Area" (HMA) which is the first 64k of the extended memory starting at 1 MB. To "load something high" (with the command "lh" in autoexec.bat or "devicehigh" in config.sys) means the device driver or program is put into the UMB's, if there is enough space for them. If not, they are left in the conventional memory below 640k. The HMA is used by the first program that calls for its use during the boot sequence, but that can be changed with switches to their command lines. Normally MS-DOS itself will use this 64k space, if there's a line like DOS=HIGH in the config.sys. DOS=UMB means - well, take a guess... ;-) I'm not writing this especially to you, Glenn, because I assume that you know all this already. But perhaps someone else reading this can eliminate some misunderstandings in this obstacle course called DOS Memory Management. By the way, the extended memory above 1 MB is called XMS or EMS. This depends on the specific type of RAM that is built into one's computer and/or the type of memory manager used to emulate EMS memory with built-in XMS memory (this refers to the /noems and /ram option of EMM386.EXE). GM> What's casing that "Reserved" section of memory? GM> Reserved for _what_??? GM> Obviously not for you to use as _you_ see fit. The "Reserved" section is used, if your BIOS setup enables "Shadow RAM" for the mainboard and the video ROM. The advantage of shadowing (meaning copying) the content of both ROM parts into the RAM is that the hardware chips used for RAM are normally much quicker than the ones used for ROM. So this will speed up the performance of almost every computer and is therefore the default setting in the BIOS setup. And another BTW: Those of you who use a MS-DOS version newer than 5.0 can get extensive help to all DOS commands by just typing "help" or "help emm386.exe" (for example) and will be lead to the new DOS help screen that is even mouse-clickable for those who need it... ;-) The advantage of this help system is that it is easier to use and it goes much more into details (with examples etc.) than the short one- page-only-syntax-screens of the older versions. Hans-Juergen - -- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## * ZQWKPro v1.1 [unregistered] - -+- OLMS 2000 UNREG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 02:42:47 +0100 From: Hans-Juergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UNIVESA adaptor Hallo Gerald, Du meintest am 08.01.00 zum Thema "UNIVESA adaptor": (h�h�...) ;-) GK> From: "Gerald Kucera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GK> You probably have noticed my bad English but it is not my mother GK> language. Not bad - for a german... ;-)) GK> P.S.: I do not understand what happend to the same text I sent as an GK> attachment to the List on 5. Jan. Here's a quote of this mail: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Kucera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Header-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947111979 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable* - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the important information to understand what happened, especially the last line saying that you used "quoted-printable" as the method for "content-transfer-encoding" in Arachne's e-mail program InSight. You can change that to "8-bit encoding" in the setup screens of Arachne (don't know which one just now...), which would enable you to use german characters that could not be written with a "7-bit encoding" method. But you have to fill out the table in that same setup screen striking the refering keys on your keyboard that you wish to use. And don't forget to use a "." for every key that you don't want to use. "Quoted-printable" is a method to send other types of files than plain ascii text across the e-mail servers of the internet. Glenn has fallen into that bad habit recently and wants to apply an "arachne.gif" to every mail he sends... (Warning: I'm only joking, Glenn). Netscape and Outlook Express users usually think it's a good idea to apply some kind of visiting-card in a graphic file-format to their e-mail, expecting that everyone uses their mailreader enabling him to look at this visiting-card easily. This blows up their "Hi, I'm XY - just testing!" mail up to some 10-20k for the servers to transport it. This next quote from your mail is the beginning of that ascii text you wrote to Jorge, but now in another format "message/rfc822", because you attached it to your mail. The method to encode it was "base64" and I would have to use an external decoder for this part of your mail to be able to read it (PKTXCODE, for example, because I don't use Arachne to read my mails). I won't do this, though, because I know what's in there: - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947111979 Content-Type: message/rfc822 ;name=5q0EL003.rfc Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 UmV0dXJuLVBhdGg6IDxrdWNlcmFAbmlrb2NpdHkuZGU+ClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9tIHRva2Fp [..] (meaning: cut out everything up to this next line) - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-947111979-- - --- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This brings up a question for me: Are the Arachne mail users on this list able to decode a "base64"-encoded attachment with InSight? As far as I know the UUENCODE/DECODE.EXE delivered with Arachne can only handle this method and not "base64" - but perhaps I'm wrong? Hans-Juergen - -- ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## * ZQWKPro v1.1 [unregistered] - -+- OLMS 2000 UNREG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:49:30 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NEWS - INsecure web sites Mel, Well said. On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:51:00 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > Caveat Emptor! Let the buyer beware! However, according to network news this date, even legit businesses can be dangerous. It seems this young man in Russia decided to hack into a music sales site -- and he did it well enough to collect about 300,000 credit card numbers. He then informed the store and asked for $300,000 American ... or he'd both sell the cc#s *and* let the press know. When the store didn't pay, CC#s started appearing on a website ... many [how many they won't say] were posted for the world to see until the site was shut down. They don't know who did it. They don't know how. [You can bet some poor bottom-of-the-ladder programmer will be blamed.] They don't even know who would have jurisdiction over the culprit should s/he be found. Verrrrrrrrrrry interesting. I think I'll continue to collect my ideas on how to shelter cc#s. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:57:46 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: (OT) memory management... was, Load EPPPD on COMPAQ 590 Following up on what I said before, I tried changing UMB stuff back and forth and no change in available memory for loading stuff high. But since I only have half a million other things to do which I don't want to do, I experimented some more with QEMM. Starting the parameters line with NOEMS resulted in some *wild* changes! First, I was told I couldn't use Stealth:M because there was no page frame. I was afraid I'd lose even more memory as a result. But I was wrong. Suddenly, instead of 44K largest available block in upper for loading high, I had a largest available block of 108K. No problem finding space to load epppd.exe high now. BUT ... [hanging my head in shame] I can't find any of the messages about how that's done. I found one that said something about a batch file being run before Arachne, but no details on how to setup .cfg file so it would be using "already exists" PPP packet. So ... Does anyone have the patience to tell me step by step? If not, you have permission to yell at me for bothering you ... IF you don't go on and on for too long. l.d. ==== On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:09:13 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > Clarence, > I've seen mention of dropping the page frame, and wondered about why UBM > should be selected when NOUMB is the default. > But when I go to Manifest it clearly shows that the page frame 64K is > placed *above* the 1Mb portion of memory. So getting rid of the page > frame wouldn't make any addition memory available for loading EPPPD > high. > l.d. > ==== > On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:24:26 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: >> Glenn McCorkle wrote: >>> (Test #5) >>> ---Qemm config.sys--- >>> rem OPENDOS 7.01 >>> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM SH:N ARAM=CB80-CBFF R:1 ST:M >>> S=FF00-FFFF UR=1M:80M >>> (QEMM386.SYS line split for eMail format) >>> device=c:\qemm\dos-up.sys @c:\qemm\dos-up.dat >>> DOS=HIGH,UMB >>> --------------------- >>> Memory Type Total Bytes ( Kbytes ) Available For Programs >>> Conventional 655,360 ( 640K ) 644,032 ( 629K ) >>> Upper 307,040 ( 300K ) 190,272 ( 186K ) >>> High 65,520 ( 64K ) 16,396 ( 16K ) >>> Extended 66,060,288 ( 64,512K ) 0 ( 0K ) >>> EMS 83,017,728 ( 81,072K ) 82,313,216 ( 80,384K ) >>> Largest executable program: 644,016 ( 629K ) >>> Total Free DOS memory: 834,304 ( 815K ) >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> You may draw your own conclusions from these tests. >>> I'll keep using QEMM. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> You betchur bippy. Me too ! >> And you get another 64k if you dump the EMS page frame.<g> >> - Clarence Verge >> -- >> - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ >> -- > -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #937 *****************************
