arachne-digest Thursday, January 13 2000 Volume 01 : Number 943 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:29:06 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? Sergei wrote: >But also i think that few different Arachne versions for >different versions of DOS is not good idea. >Maybe wwwman can check the OS before starting and work with >different portions of code ? Or this can be done during >installation. Actually if compiled under DJGPP it will work in normal DOS as well (just showing the 8.3 name). But it wastes space (memmory and HD) so there's no point in doing so. Besides it would require a 386 then as well. >Lot of folks here work with Windows, and they do not need >compatibility with 8086 processor. >It depends from Michael's priorities to do it or not. Of course. My opinion is (and has been so a long time) that diffrent versions should exist for XT, AT and 386 (and above). A Linux port will atleast make it easier to create a 386 (32-bit) DOS version. //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:41:33 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? Petri wrote: >*major laugh* that's what I think, too. If we really need LFNs, we might >as well do a DGI module, that reads the LFNs so Arachne won't need to deal >with them. LFNs sure are annoying under DOS....=P But anyhow, it doesn't >even need to be integrated in Arachne, DGIs can be used for that. I'm sorry but Petri you have missunderstood how DGI and Arachne works. To get LFN we need to recompile wwwman under a diffrent compiler (or with other libraries). The easiest way to do this is IMHO to use DJGPP. But you can not fix this by using some DGI since DGIs doesn't work that way at all. Is there any interest in an attempt from my side to explain them to any of you? Those who want to try and understand it on their own can look in mime.cfg (might be dgi.cfg or something like that for later versions, but 1.50 s.r.c has them there anyway). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:13:54 +0100 (CET) From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bernie wrote: > I'm sorry but Petri you have missunderstood how DGI and Arachne works. To > get LFN we need to recompile wwwman under a diffrent compiler (or with > other libraries). The easiest way to do this is IMHO to use DJGPP. But you > can not fix this by using some DGI since DGIs doesn't work that way at all. > Is there any interest in an attempt from my side to explain them to any of > you? I'm sorry, but you have misunderstood what I meant =). IIRC, you can send parameters to DGI (or some other similair interface in Arachne). This makes you able to make a directory browser/tool like wwwman, but isn't wwwman but rather an external tool that plugs into Arachne. I didn't say it'd be an internal way of handling it, but at least it'd work. Then, if one needed to do something that Arachne handles internally, it'd supply the short name to either the user for entering, or if there was a mime.cfg entry for the function, send it through it. Have I explained my thinking better now? Anyway, what did Sergei (I *think* it was him) need LFNs for? It's much easier for me to explain something when I can give an example... > Those who want to try and understand it on their own can look in mime.cfg > (might be dgi.cfg or something like that for later versions, but 1.50 s.r.c > has them there anyway). mime.cfg and dgi.txt exist. I have read them both. Worked with both. Anything else? =) /petri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:30:23 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? Petri wrote: >I'm sorry, but you have misunderstood what I meant =). IIRC, you can send >parameters to DGI (or some other similair interface in Arachne). Yes, there's plenty of examples with Arachne on how to do this. > This >makes you able to make a directory browser/tool like wwwman, but isn't >wwwman but rather an external tool that plugs into Arachne. But you can think of wwwman.exe as the same. FWIW Shaddack uses the code for something completly diffrent. Infact only core.exe is the actuall Arachne program IMHO - the other are diffrent utils that we can use in whatever fashion we want, or change to whatever alternatives we want (as long as they do the same basics). In fact we can probably do something like this: file/local.dgi |@program.exe $s>$2 Where $s is the current directory. But you would need to use forms for that AFAIK, any sollution for plain HTML? >Have I explained my thinking better now? Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that I already had suggested changing an external tool. Your way just seems much more complicated IMO, why do you want to reinvent the weel? >Anyway, what did Sergei (I *think* it was him) need LFNs for? It's much >easier for me to explain something when I can give an example... I think it had something to do with CDs. >mime.cfg and dgi.txt exist. I have read them both. Worked with >both. Anything else? =) No no no, dgi.cfg (which might come in upcomming versions - I was just trying to make my mail reusable if someone reads it in the future). BTW: The reason for a dgi.cfg file is so people doesn't get so confused ;-) //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:14:24 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? Hi Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: B> Of course. My opinion is (and has been so a long time) that diffrent B> versions should exist for XT, AT and 386 (and above). A Linux port will B> atleast make it easier to create a 386 (32-bit) DOS version. I would love a 386 version. It would correct many memory 'quirks' IMHO ... B> //Bernie CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> All rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full <=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:42:02 +0100 (CET) From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Bernie wrote: > > This > >makes you able to make a directory browser/tool like wwwman, but isn't > >wwwman but rather an external tool that plugs into Arachne. > > But you can think of wwwman.exe as the same. FWIW Shaddack uses the code > for something completly diffrent. Infact only core.exe is the actuall > Arachne program IMHO - the other are diffrent utils that we can use in > whatever fashion we want, or change to whatever alternatives we want (as > long as they do the same basics). Yes, I know this. Actually, this is the point - when you need LFNs, you make another wwwman, and thus the original wwwman can be 8086 compatible. (I consider wwwman part of Arachne, not because it is, but it's included in a very integrated way in the package.) > file/local.dgi |@program.exe $s>$2 > But you would need to use forms for that AFAIK, any sollution for plain HTML? Use buttons. > Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that I already had suggested changing > an external tool. Your way just seems much more complicated IMO, why do you > want to reinvent the weel? It's not a reinventation, just a copy-and-edit process. That way one doesn't need to change the wheel, just copy and modify it. Then we havetwo wheels, one 8086 without LFN and one 386 one with LFN. In this case, people needing LFNs can use them without disturbing Arachne functionality, or slowing it down etc. > I think it had something to do with CDs. I remember that, too.... > No no no, dgi.cfg (which might come in upcomming versions - I was just > trying to make my mail reusable if someone reads it in the future). BTW: > The reason for a dgi.cfg file is so people doesn't get so confused ;-) Hmmm, ohok, it's just that 1.50 src doeesn't have dgi.cfg =) /petri ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:53:57 +0000 From: rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: memory managment My 8088 "portable" has 640k & runs DOS 6.22 loaded high no prob ... rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:40:13 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: load EPPPD high On 11 Jan 00, at 2:42, Hans-Juergen wrote: > Hiho Glenn, > (me again...) > > you wrote on 08.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high": > >> Type of Memory Total = Used + Free > >> ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- > [..] > >> Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 > >> Extended (XMS) 15,537,296 2,335,888 13,201,408 > [..] > >> Also, I need to know how to load SMARTDRV high. As you can > >> see, I have 159K of upper memory, so there should be plenty to > >> load both epppd and smartdrv high. > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > GM> But, you can't load _high_ because you don't have any _high memory_ > > There seems to be some confusion about the different terms that are > used to describe the types of memory above 640k, not only on this > list, but even at Microsoft, or at least at their translating > department in Germany. As I wrote before, the part between the > conventional memory and the first 1 MB of the extended memory is > called "Upper Memory Blocks" (UMB) and has nothing to do with the > "High Memory Area" (HMA) which is the first 64k of the extended memory > starting at 1 MB. To "load something high" (with the command "lh" in > autoexec.bat or "devicehigh" in config.sys) means the device driver or > program is put into the UMB's, if there is enough space for them. > If not, they are left in the conventional memory below 640k. > > The HMA is used by the first program that calls for its use during > the boot sequence, but that can be changed with switches to their > command lines. Normally MS-DOS itself will use this 64k space, if > there's a line like DOS=HIGH in the config.sys. DOS=UMB means - > well, take a guess... ;-) > > I'm not writing this especially to you, Glenn, because I assume > that you know all this already. But perhaps someone else reading > this can eliminate some misunderstandings in this obstacle course > called DOS Memory Management. > > By the way, the extended memory above 1 MB is called XMS or EMS. > This depends on the specific type of RAM that is built into one's > computer and/or the type of memory manager used to emulate EMS > memory with built-in XMS memory (this refers to the /noems and /ram > option of EMM386.EXE). > > GM> What's casing that "Reserved" section of memory? > GM> Reserved for _what_??? > GM> Obviously not for you to use as _you_ see fit. > > The "Reserved" section is used, if your BIOS setup enables "Shadow > RAM" for the mainboard and the video ROM. The advantage of shadowing > (meaning copying) the content of both ROM parts into the RAM is > that the hardware chips used for RAM are normally much quicker than > the ones used for ROM. So this will speed up the performance of > almost every computer and is therefore the default setting in the > BIOS setup. > > And another BTW: Those of you who use a MS-DOS version newer than 5.0 > can get extensive help to all DOS commands by just typing "help" or > "help emm386.exe" (for example) and will be lead to the new DOS help > screen that is even mouse-clickable for those who need it... ;-) > The advantage of this help system is that it is easier to use and it > goes much more into details (with examples etc.) than the short one- > page-only-syntax-screens of the older versions. > > Hans-Juergen Thanks. I wondered what the "reserved" section was. I even had that on a machine with no windows at all, just dos. I did manage to get EPPPD loaded high, but on three machines, if I do that, Arachne says, "Undefined IP address" and refuses to surf.. So, I either let EPPPD remain in conventional memory, or use my Netdial 1.3 + Arachne setup. In that, the EPPPD can be loaded high, (It's under control of Netdial 1.3), and I get more conventional memory for Arachne. Usually showing 148 K rather than 80 K. in Arachne. For me, anyway, on the three machines I have running now, getting EPPPD loaded high does not insure compete success in getting a connection with Arachne. I'm using DOS 6.22 on all. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi Compaq Deskpro 575 - Pegasus Mail for Windows ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:38:34 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: secure web sites > Question for the Enigma folks....If you knew the wheel settings used to > encrypt a message, could you then decrypt it? If so then Enigma is > Symmetrical. If not, and a different wheel set is used to decrypt the > message then that's one impressive machine (and I hope they kept the > inventor's brain in a jar somewhere ;-)). Enigma was a symmetrical encryption machine. The British intelligence had one Enigma machine at Bletchley Park (where Turing worked), and one of the things they always wanted to find was how it was currently set, because if they could code then they could decode. Also IIRC from my Maths lectures, asymmetric encryption was only discovered in the 70s. Charles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:35:43 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: load EPPPD high Michael L. Dawley wrote: > > On 11 Jan 00, at 2:42, Hans-Juergen wrote: > > > Hiho Glenn, > > (me again...) > > > > you wrote on 08.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high": > > >> Type of Memory Total = Used + Free > > >> ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- > > [..] > > >> Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 > > >> Extended (XMS) 15,537,296 2,335,888 13,201,408 > > [..] > <> > > > > The "Reserved" section is used, if your BIOS setup enables "Shadow > > RAM" for the mainboard and the video ROM. The advantage of shadowing > > (meaning copying) the content of both ROM parts into the RAM is > > that the hardware chips used for RAM are normally much quicker than > > the ones used for ROM. So this will speed up the performance of > > almost every computer and is therefore the default setting in the > > BIOS setup. > > > > Hans-Juergen > > Thanks. I wondered what the "reserved" section was. I even had > that on a machine with no windows at all, just dos. Hi Michael, Hans, Glenn; FWIW, on my machine (with shadrow ram enabled) a test with DOS 6.22 MEM /C shows only 64k reserved - I'm sure with a little effort I could get that to zero. My boot screen (Under the AMI bios boot report box) shows: 256k cache, 128k shadow ram. That test was done using QEMM 8.01 as memory manager as it happened to be on the boot disk. I normally use QEMM 5.12 these days as it leaves a heck of a lot more memory for me. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:04:12 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: memory managment rick wrote: > > My 8088 "portable" has 640k & runs DOS 6.22 loaded high no prob ... > rick Loaded hi where ? If all you have is 640k then you have no "high". ?? - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:49:30 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: memory managment On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:53:57 +0000, rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 8088 "portable" has 640k & runs DOS 6.22 loaded high no prob ... > rick The term "load high" means to load into memory area above 640k. How is it possible to load something above 640 if all you have is 640??? - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:37:03 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:41:21 +0000, Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote: >> I've got 2 questions about using Arachne in a win95 computer. >> Maybe it sounds like a silly thing to do, but I'm trying to >> show it to students, and the equipment at my college is >> entirely Micro$oft. > Have you considered booting DOS from a floppy and running > Arachne from ramdisk? It shouldn't be too difficult to > fit everything onto one floppy and automatically unzip > and run Arachne from the autoexec.bat. > Cheers, > Steven Where have I heard that before???<g> Here are the config.sys and autoexec.bat files from the diskette which will do just that. - ---config.sys--- DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS DOS=HIGH,UMB DEVICE=VDISK.SYS /E 7168 BREAK=ON BUFFERS=30 FILES=50 LASTDRIVE=Z HISTORY=ON,512,ON - ------------------ - ---autoexec.bat--- @echo off a:\drmouse A:\VDRVCHNG 7168 if errorlevel 1 goto fail echo Copying command.com to RamDrive copy a:\command.com \ SET COMSPEC=\command.com MD \TEMP SET TEMP=\TEMP echo Copying self-extracting archive file to RamDrive. copy a:\!ar150rc.exe \ \!ar150rc -d \ del \!ar150rc.exe copy a:\arachne\*.* \arachne\*.* echo Ready to run Arachne. pause cd \arachne if exist arachne.pck goto run :setup call setup.bat goto done :run call arachne.bat :done rem Remark-out any of these "delete lines" pertaining to files rem you'de like saved. del cache.idx del history.lst del cookies.lst del _4prt.txt rem (I always use "!" as the first letter so that these files rem will be at the top of the list in a sorted directory listing) del !cache.idx del !history.lst del !cookies.txt rem (renamed to .TXT for easy viewing from within Arachne)<g> echo Please insert the original disk in drive a: echo Any updated files in the Arachne directory will echo be copied to this disk. echo (make sure the disk is not write protected) echo . pause a:\xcopy \arachne\*.* a:\arachne\*.* /D:08/28/1999 goto end :fail echo . echo A problem has occurred while trying to create the RamDisk :end - --------------------------------- - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:48:14 -0500 From: "P. Stephen Baxter, P. Eng." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Repeat Those Wonders for an 8514...Please I am astonished at what can be discovered by this Digest on behalf of the likes of those possessing a dated 9517/9515 IBM display. Enviously I wonder whether the same might be done for us (very few) benighted possessors of the IBM 8514 and that mysterious but impressive 8514/a Microchannel (I know; totally defunct today) 9-inch x 3-inch card. I have both hooked up to my PS/2 386 25mHz 120mB HD (doublespaced) with 16mB RAM, and continue to delight in what this mere VGA can do for me in Win, WP5.2-for-Win (strangely nobody ever talks about this oddity), Lotus 4.2 spreadsheet program, and that Lotus Organizer v1.1 that cannot look or book beyond 31Dec00 and thus destined to die. What a travesty that Arachne boots for me merely as a bigger version of a basic 386 with VGA, losing all those touted benefits of TOOLBAR etc. I mentioned this a few weeks ago, but all I got was that only King Michael could (easily) include the magic 8514 driver had he a mind to at little cost to bloat. Maybe v6 has it, but I don't count on it because my 8514 constituency must be comparitively microscopic by now. For those who thought that FreeNetters would become incommunicado Jan 1, well, here voluble Howard Eisenberger and I are! And while we are here together with all those Arachnid gurus who are constantly pushing the envelope beyond expectations, maybe there are a few who could spare the time to enlighten (along 9517 lines) the 8514ers trapped among them. Yours, Aye, Stephen. - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:26:54 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #931 "L.D. Best" wrote: > Good question, Sam! > > On the other hand, high tech oscilloscopes that would have costs $10K a > few years ago are probably available in a smaller package and for less > than $100. <G> > > For checking power supplies, and mobo power switches, you don't need an > oscilloscope, though. I bought my little multi-meter [ac/dc amps, > resistance, voltage, etc] for less than $10 and it works just fine > checking out voltages on systems I work with. > > > l.d. As a matter affect, you NEED oscilloscope to repair highly damaged power supply. But it never worth it. Much easyer to buy new. Sergei - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:57:04 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OOPS, Sorry, (Re: Arachne on TV (!! Warning !!)) "Gregory J. Feig" wrote: > > -------------------------------! Warning > > !------------------------------------------ > > > See it !!! There it is !!! The way to massdestruction !!!! That was my fear !!!! > > All I wanted to show was that it is possible to connect a computer to a tv with > > an easy to setup cable and smart software. -I know, it was my fault to go into a > > public list without enough knowledge in electronics and english to handle the > > follow-ups -shame on me-. > > !!!!! Please Mel and other people from ham radio help me out !!!!! > I never recommend somebody to do this, so please sorry for advice. I do it with myself at Panasonic, But i am familiar with TVsets electronics and have authorisation to work with devices with voltage over 1000 KV (not bad for lawer, isn't it ?), and it was really easy, but I CAN NOT RECOMMEND TO TRY IT AT HOME. INSIDE OF TV SET EXIST EXTREMELY DANGER VOLTAGE. I DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE's DEATH Sorry, i do not thought that someone wish to do it. Sergei - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:56:56 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne on TV and arcademachine (!! Warning !!) Or Botton wrote: > > When you mentioned europe/US you seemed to forget Middle east. > I'm very intrested in trying to do this.. I dont know much in > electronics.. and that plug doesnt exist in Israeli TV sets. > (though its still PAL. We got the Antenne plug.). > Any idea on what I should try to do? ..or should I just drop > the idea and get one of those expensive VGA-to-TV commercial > convertors? (which seems to work only with Windows. Thats what > they all state on the box, anyway.) > > I think that I should mention again that I have what seems to be > a cable with one of its ends is a stereo A/V plugs, and in the other > side a SCART plug. Since my television has a stereo A/V plugs > in addition to the PAL antenne plug, is it a good chance to add > "SCART support" to my TV using this cable? or should I still > try to buy a commercial thing? :) > > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you not absolutely not familiar with electronics, you better have to buy commercial solution. If you know what is transistor, exist very easy scheme at 5 transistors and few inductions. It convert RGB to PAL. It can cost near 5-7 $ if you assemble it by yourself. But you need oscilloscop to make it work. Sergei-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:57:04 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OOPS, Sorry, (Re: Arachne on TV (!! Warning !!)) "Gregory J. Feig" wrote: > > -------------------------------! Warning > > !------------------------------------------ > > > See it !!! There it is !!! The way to massdestruction !!!! That was my fear !!!! > > All I wanted to show was that it is possible to connect a computer to a tv with > > an easy to setup cable and smart software. -I know, it was my fault to go into a > > public list without enough knowledge in electronics and english to handle the > > follow-ups -shame on me-. > > !!!!! Please Mel and other people from ham radio help me out !!!!! > I never recommend somebody to do this, so please sorry for advice. I do it with myself at Panasonic, But i am familiar with TVsets electronics and have authorisation to work with devices with voltage over 1000 KV (not bad for lawer, isn't it ?), and it was really easy, but I CAN NOT RECOMMEND TO TRY IT AT HOME. INSIDE OF TV SET EXIST EXTREMELY DANGER VOLTAGE. I DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE's DEATH Sorry, i do not thought that someone wish to do it. Sergei - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:56:56 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne on TV and arcademachine (!! Warning !!) Or Botton wrote: > > When you mentioned europe/US you seemed to forget Middle east. > I'm very intrested in trying to do this.. I dont know much in > electronics.. and that plug doesnt exist in Israeli TV sets. > (though its still PAL. We got the Antenne plug.). > Any idea on what I should try to do? ..or should I just drop > the idea and get one of those expensive VGA-to-TV commercial > convertors? (which seems to work only with Windows. Thats what > they all state on the box, anyway.) > > I think that I should mention again that I have what seems to be > a cable with one of its ends is a stereo A/V plugs, and in the other > side a SCART plug. Since my television has a stereo A/V plugs > in addition to the PAL antenne plug, is it a good chance to add > "SCART support" to my TV using this cable? or should I still > try to buy a commercial thing? :) > > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you not absolutely not familiar with electronics, you better have to buy commercial solution. If you know what is transistor, exist very easy scheme at 5 transistors and few inductions. It convert RGB to PAL. It can cost near 5-7 $ if you assemble it by yourself. But you need oscilloscop to make it work. Sergei-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:57:04 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OOPS, Sorry, (Re: Arachne on TV (!! Warning !!)) "Gregory J. Feig" wrote: > > -------------------------------! Warning > > !------------------------------------------ > > > See it !!! There it is !!! The way to massdestruction !!!! That was my fear !!!! > > All I wanted to show was that it is possible to connect a computer to a tv with > > an easy to setup cable and smart software. -I know, it was my fault to go into a > > public list without enough knowledge in electronics and english to handle the > > follow-ups -shame on me-. > > !!!!! Please Mel and other people from ham radio help me out !!!!! > I never recommend somebody to do this, so please sorry for advice. I do it with myself at Panasonic, But i am familiar with TVsets electronics and have authorisation to work with devices with voltage over 1000 KV (not bad for lawer, isn't it ?), and it was really easy, but I CAN NOT RECOMMEND TO TRY IT AT HOME. INSIDE OF TV SET EXIST EXTREMELY DANGER VOLTAGE. I DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMEONE's DEATH Sorry, i do not thought that someone wish to do it. Sergei - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:56:56 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne on TV and arcademachine (!! Warning !!) Or Botton wrote: > > When you mentioned europe/US you seemed to forget Middle east. > I'm very intrested in trying to do this.. I dont know much in > electronics.. and that plug doesnt exist in Israeli TV sets. > (though its still PAL. We got the Antenne plug.). > Any idea on what I should try to do? ..or should I just drop > the idea and get one of those expensive VGA-to-TV commercial > convertors? (which seems to work only with Windows. Thats what > they all state on the box, anyway.) > > I think that I should mention again that I have what seems to be > a cable with one of its ends is a stereo A/V plugs, and in the other > side a SCART plug. Since my television has a stereo A/V plugs > in addition to the PAL antenne plug, is it a good chance to add > "SCART support" to my TV using this cable? or should I still > try to buy a commercial thing? :) > > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you not absolutely not familiar with electronics, you better have to buy commercial solution. If you know what is transistor, exist very easy scheme at 5 transistors and few inductions. It convert RGB to PAL. It can cost near 5-7 $ if you assemble it by yourself. But you need oscilloscop to make it work. Sergei-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:57:01 +0000 From: rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: memory managment > The term "load high" means to load into memory area above 640k. > How is it possible to load something above 640 if all you have is 640??? er ... what i meant is "umb" related. rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:26:54 +0200 From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #931 "L.D. Best" wrote: > Good question, Sam! > > On the other hand, high tech oscilloscopes that would have costs $10K a > few years ago are probably available in a smaller package and for less > than $100. <G> > > For checking power supplies, and mobo power switches, you don't need an > oscilloscope, though. I bought my little multi-meter [ac/dc amps, > resistance, voltage, etc] for less than $10 and it works just fine > checking out voltages on systems I work with. > > > l.d. As a matter affect, you NEED oscilloscope to repair highly damaged power supply. But it never worth it. Much easyer to buy new. Sergei - -- ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #943 *****************************
