arachne-digest        Friday, January 14 2000        Volume 01 : Number 946




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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:29:57 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordprocessor for DOS?

Jan,

WordPerfect (WPDOS) 6.x looks a lot like Windoze, so much so that although I 
have it on my computer, I use it only when absolutely necessary, e.g., when I 
have to convert a Word document (WinWord) for use in WordPerfect.  My word 
processor of choice is WPDOS 5.1, but I don't think that you will find it 
available for free unless someone is willing to give it to you.  (Maybe 
almost free, though!)  When I got WP 6.0, I passed up the opportunity of 
getting WP 5.1 Plus.  5.1 Plus handles the graphics fonts (software) fonts 
much like 6.x does, but hopefully doesn't have the Windoze type interface.  
There is a used computer/software store in the neighborhood of my office that 
I stop in about once a month that has good buys on used software.  Desqview 
386 for $5.00, FoxPro 2.6 for $20.00, etc.

As Clarence said, there are a lot of editors available that perform almost 
like a word processor.  You might want to check the Simtel's (www.simtel.net) 
and Garbo's (www.uwasa.fi/~ts/garbo.html) MSDOS ftp sites and look in their 
"Editors" and "WordPerfect" sections.  On Simtel's site, select DOS, then 
browse.  The screen that you get are the sections on Simtel's site.  Click on 
"E" (for editor) and you will get all the text editor files; click on "W" 
for WordPerfect and you will get all the WordPerfect files.  On Garbo's site, 
select MS-DOS, and the list starting with "pc/" are the sections on Garbo's 
site.  Garbo only has an "Editor" section, not a WordPerfect section.

(Of course, if you are into or going into Linux, you can download WordPerfect 
for Linux from Corel's site for free!  It might take all night, but it's 
free!)

Hope this helps.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

Jan Lentfer wrote:

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Clarence Verge wrote:

> What do you require of a word processor ?
> 
> There are lots available. Some are ridiculous overkill and a torment to use.
> Others may more properly be called text editors but this catagory fills my
> requirements most of the time.
> 
> When my text editor can't handle the file size I grit my teeth and cut it up
> with Wordstar.
> 
> Anything I might use (including Wordstar) will run on an 8088 and need less
> than 64K ram.

Basically a an ASCII text Editor. I remember using Wordstar 2000 on my
Dad's old 8088 about 12 years ago. Good program, is there any place
where you can get it for free?
I also remember there was a DOS version of Wordperfect that looked
almost like the Win 3.1 version (WP 5.x or 6.x ??).
What I need this program for is writing essays on my old 386, VGA
monochrome display, 4MB Toshiba notebook (which I got for free from the
company I worked for, coz the wanted to trash it :-)))), and then
exporting them to Win - based Word to add the graphics and final layout.

I already checked the Simtel page and other download pages but was a
little overwhelmed by the vast amount of software available. So I
decided to ask for your experiences.

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:34:51 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordprocessor for DOS?

Jan Lentfer wrote:
> 
> Clarence Verge wrote:
> 
> > What do you require of a word processor ?
> >
> 
> Basically a an ASCII text Editor. I remember using Wordstar 2000 on my
> Dad's old 8088 about 12 years ago. Good program, is there any place
> where you can get it for free?
> I also remember there was a DOS version of Wordperfect that looked
> almost like the Win 3.1 version (WP 5.x or 6.x ??).

Um, I have WP5.1 for DOS but it's 13 diskettes and a bit much trouble to zip
and ship. I got it for ~$2 at a junk store.  Sounds like what you want tho.
 
I think Wordstar is abandoned now isn't it ? If so, I would guess that makes
it legal for me to give it to you - but it's MUCH earlier than WS2000. <G>

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:44:55 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initialising Arachne

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:35:47 -0600, John McKloskey wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I've been watching for a few days before jumping in to see if my subject
> came up, but it has not. This oughta be a slam-dunk for you:
> Upon initial installation of Arachne, it says " Initialising" and a
> little spinner appears. But I've never gotten beyond that point; the
> spinner can go all night and nothing happens. I heard there might be a
> conflict between Win 3.1 and Arachne, so I backed up and then deleted
> Windows.  Still no help. I've consulted every help page I can find, and
> this problem seems to never be mentioned.
> Machine is a 386 w/4MB memory.
> Any help appreciated......

> John McKloskey, Racine Wisconsin USA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sounds like you don't have a "temp" directory set-up in your
configuration.

If that's it, you'll need to do 2 things
1) create the temp directory by typing this at the DOS prompt
   md c:\temp

2) edit your autoexec.bat file and add this line
   set temp=c:\temp

 All _should_ go correctly after that.




- -- 
Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
   http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:11:32 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Initialising Arachne

John McKloskey wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> I've been watching for a few days before jumping in to see if my subject
> came up, but it has not. This oughta be a slam-dunk for you:
> Upon initial installation of Arachne, it says " Initialising" and a
> little spinner appears. But I've never gotten beyond that point; the
> spinner can go all night and nothing happens. I heard there might be a
> conflict between Win 3.1 and Arachne, so I backed up and then deleted
> Windows.  Still no help. I've consulted every help page I can find, and
> this problem seems to never be mentioned.
> Machine is a 386 w/4MB memory.
> Any help appreciated......

This is an old problem due to a very faulty Turboinstaller. I got that effect
when I tried to install it using a VGAcard in Hercules mode. The dumb thing
doesn't write to Standard Output. (Text screen)

Since no one else is likely to do it, I will suggest you go back and pick up
the PREVIOUS version - Arachne 1.50b2 and forget the s.r.c. version.

- -  Clarence Verge
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- -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:04:21 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Richard Menedetter wrote:

> If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
> that:
>
> type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
>
> Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
> (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)

copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:21:25 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Richard Menedetter wrote:

> If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
> that:
>
> type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
>
> Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
> (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)

copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:59:23 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Happy Old New Year :)

Here at ex-USSR we have very strange holiday.
It's name Old New Year (isn't cool?)
It begins 15 January at 00:00.
So, Happy Old New Year !

Sergei
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:21:25 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Richard Menedetter wrote:

> If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
> that:
>
> type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
>
> Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
> (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)

copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:36:31 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: memory managment

Clarence Verge wrote:

> rick wrote:
> >
> > My 8088 "portable" has 640k & runs DOS 6.22 loaded high no prob ...
> >                 rick
>
> Loaded hi where ? If all you have is 640k then you have no "high". ??
>
> -  Clarence Verge

Seems to VideoRam ;)

Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:50:57 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ?

Petri wrote:

> Anyway, what did Sergei (I *think* it was him) need LFNs for? It's much
> easier for me to explain something when I can give an example...

I needed them when running under Windows, and can't have
access to some files with very long filenames (more than 
64, 15-16 symbols from beginning same).

I think that exist some way to force Arachne, launched under
windows, understand windows's names.
Now i can see than i'm only one here who need it.

Sergei
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:50:57 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ?

Petri wrote:

> Anyway, what did Sergei (I *think* it was him) need LFNs for? It's much
> easier for me to explain something when I can give an example...

I needed them when running under Windows, and can't have
access to some files with very long filenames (more than 
64, 15-16 symbols from beginning same).

I think that exist some way to force Arachne, launched under
windows, understand windows's names.
Now i can see than i'm only one here who need it.

Sergei
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:01:14 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Sergei wrote:

> Richard Menedetter wrote:
>
> > If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
> > that:
> >
> > type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
> >
> > Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
> > (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)
>

copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

Or, the worst solution, Adobe Illustrator.
But it's price wery high just for printing postscripts.

> Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:42:39 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Steven wrote:

>
> > I've got 2 questions about using Arachne in a win95 computer.
> > Maybe it sounds like a silly thing to do,  but I'm trying to
> > show it to students,  and the equipment at my college is
> > entirely Micro$oft.
>
> Have you considered booting DOS from a floppy and running
> Arachne from ramdisk?  It shouldn't be too difficult to
> fit everything onto one floppy and automatically unzip
> and run Arachne from the autoexec.bat.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven

Can someone, who know how to work with RAM disk do that ?
I mean bootable disk, Ram disk driver and self extracting archive
at one 1.44 floppy.
And call it , lets see......          .....pocketArachne ?
Everybody want to have it, but nobody want to do it.
( I'm bad programmer (only Perl, and thats enough),
so don't rely on me). I can fit it only on Zip100 ;)

Sergei


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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:04:26 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: memory managment

Clarence Verge wrote:

> rick wrote:
> >
> > My 8088 "portable" has 640k & runs DOS 6.22 loaded high no prob ...
> >                 rick
>
> Loaded hi where ? If all you have is 640k then you have no "high". ??
>
> -  Clarence Verge

Seems to VideoRam ;)

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Steven wrote:

>
> > I've got 2 questions about using Arachne in a win95 computer.
> > Maybe it sounds like a silly thing to do,  but I'm trying to
> > show it to students,  and the equipment at my college is
> > entirely Micro$oft.
>
> Have you considered booting DOS from a floppy and running
> Arachne from ramdisk?  It shouldn't be too difficult to
> fit everything onto one floppy and automatically unzip
> and run Arachne from the autoexec.bat.
>
> Cheers,
> Steven

Can someone, who know how to work with RAM disk do that ?
I mean bootable disk, Ram disk driver and self extracting
archive
at one 1.44 floppy.
And call it , lets see......          .....pocketArachne ?
Everybody want to have it, but nobody want to do it.
( I'm bad programmer (only Perl, and thats enough),
so don't reX-MozillX-Mozilla-Status: 0009n Zip100 ;)

Sergei


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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:04:35 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Happy Old New Year :)

Here at ex-USSR we have very strange holiday.
It's name Old New Year (isn't cool?)
It begins 15 January at 00:00.
So, Happy Old New Year !

Sergei
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:04:39 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

Sergei wrote:

> Richard Menedetter wrote:
>
> > If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
> > that:
> >
> > type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
> >
> > Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
> > (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)
>

copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

Or, the worst solution, Adobe Illustrator.
But it's price wery high just for printing postscripts.

> Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:13:56 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordprocessor for DOS?

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:55:14 +0100, Jan Lentfer wrote:

> What I need this program for is writing essays on my old 386, VGA
> monochrome display, 4MB Toshiba notebook (which I got for free from the
> company I worked for, coz the wanted to trash it :-)))), and then
> exporting them to Win - based Word to add the graphics and final layout.

Hello Jan:

If you are going to be writing essays of a scholarly nature, then you will
need a word-processor suitable for citing sources and quotes and for
producing footnotes and end-notes.  You will need a word-processor having
an underline feature for citing a book.  For doing footnotes you will need
to be able to superscript numbers.

I don't think there are any free word-processors having features like
these.  I have some experience with some very fine commercial DOS
word-processors that are now very "out-dated".  You might be able to procure
the old software from second-hand sources for a very low price nowadays.

I have experience with these commercial DOS software packages that I could
highly recommend for word-processing, and having all the features discussed
above:

1.  WordStar, version 4 and above
2.  WordPerfect (especially version 5.1)
3.  Key-Word Pro (Softkey Software Products)
4.  Enable (An integrated software package having an excellent word-processor,
    a database program, and a spreadsheet program like Lotus 1-2-3.  This
    software was in widespread use throughout the US Army from ca. 1987 - 1992.
    It provides very good support for "foreign" language characters)

Sam Heywood
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:41:46 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne under Windows

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:01:14 +0200, Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sergei wrote:

>> Richard Menedetter wrote:

>> > If the printer is connected to a local LPT port, than you can make do it like
>> > that:
>> >
>> > type 1.ps >lptx (x number of the lpt port)
>> >
>> > Or you can install ghostscript for Windows. (as in my university)
>> > (sorry ... but I don't have the address by hand)

> copy /B 1.ps lptx  can do this work better.

type 1.ps > prn also works.

Whatever command you want to use is just a matter of individual preference.
IMHO.

Sam Heywood


> Or, the worst solution, Adobe Illustrator.
> But it's price wery high just for printing postscripts.

>> Sergei

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:53:51 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Happy Old New Year :)

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:59:23 +0200, Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here at ex-USSR we have very strange holiday.
> It's name Old New Year (isn't cool?)
> It begins 15 January at 00:00.
> So, Happy Old New Year !

> Sergei
> --

In Great Britain and in the American Colonies prior to 1751, New Year's
Day was celebrated on March 24th.  (i.e March 24th, 1749 would be
followed by March 25th 1750)  The good old days were cool!  In 1751
the Brits decided to apply a major correction to their calendar.

Sam Heywood

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:25:19 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordprocessor for DOS?

Jan wrote:
>What's a good free Wordprocessor for DOS (runnable with 386, 4MB RAM)
>and where can I get it?

Something you can get for free is Word 5.5 from M$ sites (you are of course
not allowed to download it if you don't have a license for Word 5.0 or above).

http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaddetails/wd55eng.htm

And speaking of that you can download himem.sys (including source) from
Microsofts site as well.

http://support.microsoft.com/download/support/mslfiles/Xms.exe
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/microsft/himem278.zip

(These are diffrent versions if I understood it correctly, never did get
the one from M$ sites since it timed out after like 10 seconds).
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:24:38 +0000
From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wordprocessor for DOS?

>What's a good free Wordprocessor for DOS (runnable with 386, 4MB RAM)
>and where can I get it?
>
>Thanks a lot in advance,
>
>Jan

If you need to export the file to word,  you need something decent like
Wordstar,  or a plain ASCII editor like textedit.

Alternatively you could download the GEOPUBLISH shareware program from
Simtel.  It's a fully functional wysiwyg word processor/vector graphics/DTP
system.  It's not time-limited and it will output to most printers in
graphic mode,  but it has limited file export capability.  The word
processor and its environment were once sold as an alternative to Win3.x,
but Microsoft was just too big for them.

Charles

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:06:36 +0000
From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Long filenames howto?

From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Petri wrote:

> To get LFN we need to recompile wwwman under a diffrent compiler (or
> with other libraries). The easiest way to do this is IMHO to use DJGPP.

IMHO there is one good reason to get long FNs:  that is to offer access to
local HTML pages with long file names.  Suppose for instance that you
bought a encyclopedia or some other multimedia title written in HTML.  You
try to read it with Arachne,  and...  It would all work except for one
thing:  the links use long file names and so they are invalid.  I don't
care about LFNs in wwwman.  But I'm more concerned invalid links in local
HTML files.  Does that mean we'd have to recompile core.exe?

> Those who want to try and understand it on their own can look in mime.cfg
> //Bernie
Thanks Bernie,  that was very useful.

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:56:46 +0000
From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: batch downloading of images

From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

...I can just open the URL of the image I'm interested in.  Such as:
http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=nnc.to

I can make up the URLs easily myself.  It would be simple to type GETTHEM
<enter> and go up the street to get a coffee and donut,  knowing I would
have 25 or so .gifs waiting for me when I get back.

Michael, would it be possible sometime to allow us to create a text file of
sequential URLs and you would provide the means to download each and write
each to an individual and recognizable file ? - as a batch operation ? 

Likewise, with DOS I could type PRINTHEM <enter> and go to a movie. <G>

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There may be a simple solution.  You could make an HTML template:

<HTML>
<BODY>

<IMG SRC="http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=nnc.to"> <BR>
<IMG SRC="http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=xxx.to"> <BR>
<IMG SRC="http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=yyy.to"> <BR>
<IMG SRC="http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=zzz.to"> <BR>

</BODY>
</HTML>

Put as many IMGs as you have graphs to dowload.  250 if you like (there may
be some memory problems).  Send that to download,  go have a donut,  you'll
have one long web page with all your images in when you get back.  Send it
to print,  go to the movie,  your graphs print all in one go.  It will work
in all browsers.

Charles

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:04:04 +0100
From: "Gerald Kucera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitor Gerald

Hello Roger and Gregy,
this monitor IBM9517 gives me a good image with a driver which is in
Win98. The image is a bit off center. I did find a driver for my miro
card that offers WinTools - now I have the image nicely centered. There
is a black frame around the image of about 1,5cm (half inch). It does not
bother me because it is for Win only.
With Arachne the Graphicsetup allows only the Vesa driver and this gives
a very flickering, distorted and too big image. But Arachne connects to
internet and works properly. I tried all possibilities of the
Graphicsetup.
When I install the SciTechDisplayDoctor (only 651 did the trick) I get
Arachne full size with very fine grain and no flicker. I must confess
this was all done by my son who visited us during his Xmas holidays. But
Arachne says "no PPP link" and clicks off.

As a side effect of Display doctor the image of Windows is a bit wider
so the black frame is smaller left and right. The guy who sold me the
monitor showed me the Win image. It filled the full width and had only a
small black strip on top and bottom. He uses an Elsa Erazor videocard
and sayd in Win95 (C?) is a driver called IBM 6554 P70 17".

I hope this info is of any use.

BTW: If you let Michael fix all bugs in Arachne and make it perfect what
would be left to complain about? I think sometimes To use Arachne is as
fascinating like driving one of the AlfaRomeos with 4 or 6 carburetors.
There is no car which follows the command of the accelerator pedal as
perfect as one of those. But the fascination vanishes quickly because
the carburators disadjust so easily. So you must readjust them which is
an art only very few people know. This way you develop a personal
relation to your car or in our case to Arachne.

Gerald

PS: I lost my Digest from Thursday. Can I ask for resending and how?
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
- -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:54:01 +0100 (CET)
From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re2: Secure web sites

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, L.D. Best wrote:

> Maybe you feel it is slow compared to your local network.  You've got to
> remember that this is the *worldwide* internet and how things get routed
> to/from list server depends upon traffic *worldwide*  <G>

Haha, actually, I was comparing Arachne's list server with other
(word-lwide) lists. I am *not* on a LAN, I'm happy for that. (people
would just play DOOM and stuff =)

> And this is e-mail and not some type of quick chat or chat channel.  To
> be able to have only a two hour lapse between send and receive for
> written correspondence worldwide is pretty damn good!  It beats the heck
> out of snailmail and is a lot cheaper than a conference call on the
> phone and a lot simpler than a shortwave radio conference [which would
> require relays to get around the world anyway].

Am I the only one used to messages travelling around the world in 10-30
minutes from a big, world-wide list? Actually, I have seen both bigger AND
faster lists than this, note bigger and faster as opposed to one big and
one fast.

/petri

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:08:14 +0100 (CET)
From: Petri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ?

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Sergei wrote:

> I needed them when running under Windows, and can't have
> access to some files with very long filenames (more than 
> 64, 15-16 symbols from beginning same).

The long file names usually show up as short file names in DOS
software. Do you mean they didn't show up at all? (In that case you might
have one of those Joliet/Romeo/whatever MS format CDs.....re-burn it under
ISO9660 =)

> I think that exist some way to force Arachne, launched under
> windows, understand windows's names.

Usually they show up short, as said before....It's just that some CDs are
without the short names (they have to be stored somewhere, you know =),
and you would have to reburn those in order to add short file names to
them.

> Now i can see than i'm only one here who need it.

Yes, you're a very rare person, yes indeed. =)

/petri

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:34 -0400
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Monitor Gerald

On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:04:04 +0100, Gerald Kucera wrote:

<snip>

> BTW: If you let Michael fix all bugs in Arachne and make it perfect what
> would be left to complain about? I think sometimes To use Arachne is as
> fascinating like driving one of the AlfaRomeos with 4 or 6 carburetors.
> There is no car which follows the command of the accelerator pedal as
> perfect as one of those. But the fascination vanishes quickly because
> the carburators disadjust so easily. So you must readjust them which is
> an art only very few people know. This way you develop a personal
> relation to your car or in our case to Arachne.

Hello Gerald:

Excellent analogy for describing us Arachnids.  We are as picky as one who
dedicates himself to tinkering with his Alpha Romeo to insure that it
always stays as finely tuned as possible.

> Gerald

> PS: I lost my Digest from Thursday. Can I ask for resending and how?

I'll answer this question by quoting an old posting from Guenter Bietzig.

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Hi Anand,

On Tue, 18 May 1999 22:22:12 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there a way to get old messages from this mailing list sent to me
> again?  Windows crashed after I recieved about fifty messages and I lost
> everything from the last day or so before reading it.


send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with these 2 lines in the body:

get arachne-digest v01.n625
end

Replace '625' with digest # you want.

Regards

Guenter Bietzig, Essen, Germany.  Arachne BUG-,CRASH-,WISH-& LOVElist at:
Arachne Help Page http://www.germany.net/teilnehmer/101,124262/gb.htm

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Sam Heywood

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