arachne-digest        Monday, January 17 2000        Volume 01 : Number 952




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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:36:25 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Re: Arachne 1.60b1

Hi

"Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 GM>  "Export" also failed here. (but did not "hang")
 GM> It simply brought-up the "Save or send unviewable file" screen.

 GM>  This one is easy to fix. Just add this line to mime.cfg
 GM> file/exportbmp.dgi |COPY _4prt.bmp $s>NUL
Thanks ... works GREAT !!!
(And I love it !!)

 GM> BTW
 GM>  Richard, I changed the subject line of this reply.
 GM> (this is v1.60b1 not 1.50b1)<g>
Thanks I noticed it myself _after_ I have sent it ;)

 GM> Yes, I know.
 GM> After 6 months of typing 1.50s.r.c...... the index finger automatically
 GM> moves to the 5 key after hitting the dot.<vbg>
Yes ;-)

 GM> Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

CU, Ricsi

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:39:24 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Re: Damn. I forgot to mention

Hi

Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 CV> In email, buttons "Address Book" and "Make Mailing List" produce no
 CV> action.
I can't say much to the rest, because I don't use PPP anymore,
but the 2 functions above work just fine here.
The first will take you to the hotlist, and the other will explain you, that
you can make a textfile with one address/line, and use
to: @textfile to send mail to all of the addresses in the file.

 CV> -  Clarence Verge

CU, Ricsi

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:21:53 
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne 1.6 (was Re: Arachne under Windows)

On 15 Jan 00 at 20:25, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

>>Addendum to P.S.  I just now successfully downloaded 1.60 beta and have
>>returned to this message to add additional comments.  The new version of
>>Arachne is available either as a ZIP archive or you may receive it by email.
>> Quoting from the download page I find "Send an empty email to address
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]  You will receive UUENCODED Arachne by email.
>>Warning: it will be quite a big email.  Some systems will refuse message
>>which is longer than 1 MB.  You can also download Arachne as a zip archive,
>>but installation is less intuitive and user friendly"
>>
>>I should like to hear from those who elect to receive the new version by
>>email.  Did they find their installation exceptionally easy?  Are they
>>having fewer problems than those who install from the zip archive?

I started to download it directly from one of the sites, but it was 
so slow I elected to get it by email. Not sure how long it took to 
get to my ISPs server, but I downloaded it later and installed it OK 
with the new installation utility. I used the wizard to configure 
it just like a new user would. No problems except for the option to 
alter autoexec.bat/config.sys/Quick start? What is Quick Start?

Regards,
Dale Mentzer

Is it time for your medication or mine?


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                WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows    
          http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page        

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:12:55 
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pocket Arachne [ was Re: Arachne under Windows

On 14 Jan 00 at 17:39, L.D. Best wrote:

>>But if people can figure out how to overcome those problems, I can
>>easily set up a diskette to BOOT, create RAMdisk, run self-extracting
>>Arachne, run setup for video.  Comm port would still be problem,
>>requiring "hand setup" under options, particularly if the system was
>>networked to reach internet.  
>>
>>So, for networked terminal that would require customized diskette for
>>each.  But once customized, it should work every time if can boot to A:
>>
>>For generic "Pocket Arachne" there remains the problem with COM port. 
>>If a miniwizard of some sort were developed to locate & write COM port
>>stuff to arachne.cfg, then porting Pocket Arachne should be relatively
>>simple.

L.D., I used this technique to make a Pocket Goin' Postal disk of 
Steve Lawson's Goin' Postal email program for the HP DOS palm 
computers. I used this on my son's Compaq 100mhz Pentium and it 
worked pretty well. Using this I did not have to install any software 
on his machine. Fortunately his 19.2k modem was not a Windows Modem. 
I thought of this before we visited him at Christmas and took an old 
14.4k external modem that I would have used on one of his machine's 
COM ports.

Regards,
Dale Mentzer

I started out with nothing...I still have most of it.


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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:04:58 
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The TELEBOT website now works much better with Arachne

On 30 Nov 99 at 9:22, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

>>Hi Folks,
>>
>>Good news!
>>
>>This morning I just accessed http://www.telebot.com.  To my surprize
>>I found that that the page is displayed with Arachne much better than
>>ever before.  The web-master must have done something to fix it for
>>us.  
>>
>>I would recommend this site for web-based email especially to anyone 
>>using Arachne.

Samuel,

I went to Telebot and setup an account and noticed that they have an 
authenticated SMTP server that they say is only supported by several 
Windoze email programs. Is it possible to receive AND send mail with 
Arachne? Also, I had them send me a sample FAX image file in their 
.tif format but was unable to view it with any DOS viewers  that I 
have. Is there a viewer that will work with these files? Any other 
experiences that you have had with Telebot would be useful. Thanks. 
BTW, sorry 'bout the late reply to your original post, but I just got 
around to checking it out.

Regards,
Dale Mentzer



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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:32:53 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dos word processor

FYI,

Here in USA copyrights run for life of individual or 75 years, whichever
is longer.  So any software written to run on PCs of any sort is still
copyrighted at this time.  A copyright notice is not required, nor is
filing required within US to hold copyright.

However, some stuff has been released for free use of public ...  

Make certain you cross your t's and dot your i's in private whenever 
possible. :>

l.d.
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:18:49 +0000, rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi all,
>    i got Word Publisher, circa 1989 ... been trying to find current
> copyright/etc  2 no avail so i guess it must be free (or not).
>    will run on floppies or ...

>    seems to work well, lots of "setup" options ... printers/etc.

>    can/will send to interested personae.

>            later,
>                    rick

- -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:42:04 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with POP3 download

Mark, 

There is another option besides trying to find a human who can attempt
to delete the large file without trashing the balance of your mail.

Yes, your entire mail package on the ISP servers *could* be trashed if
they still use single flatfile for messages rather than single messages
with database access.  My ISP just recently went to the new method of
single file storage.

Anyway, here's what you *can* do.  Go to http://www.mailstart.com

Enter your POP3 info [username, password] and access your mail via the
web!  You'll then be able to read, delete if desired, reply if desired. 
You might even be able to separately save that 400+K file on your system
and then delete it appropriately on your ISP's system.  Once that big
file is out of the way, you should be able to d/l mail with Arachne with
no problems.

l.d.
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:03:14 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:

> Mark David Roth wrote:

>> I've been trying to download all my email from pop.hotpop.com. It gets
>> the first 10 messages the discontinues the connection. The last file is a
>> big one, 416,663. I've been trying it for days now. The server isn't
>> deleting the messages it allready sent. So it downloads those same first 10
>> files, then quits, every time. Is there something in Arachne that causing
>> it to quit or do you think it's the server? I tried contacting them at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still haven't got a response from them yet.

> Hi Mark;

> This sort of thing has happened to me when some Windows using m*r*n tries
> to send me the contents of his harddisk.
> The best thing to do is call them and try to talk to a human.
> Ask them to delete that big file.

> -  Clarence Verge
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> -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:56:51 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I got it ... sorta

While using self-extract program on 1.60b I ended up with CRC ERROR
message, but the install program continued unabated.

Then there was another error message that went by too quick to read, and
finally the program halted because it couldn't find a toolbar file. I
guess that means go clean out the directory and start over with a new
download.


- -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:17:24 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with POP3 download

Or Botton wrote:
>
> Clarence Verge wrote:
> > to send me the contents of his harddisk.
> > The best thing to do is call them and try to talk to a human.
> > Ask them to delete that big file.
>
> If they refuse to delete it or charge pay (as my ISP do), you can
> do it manualy rather easily. You will need a Telnet application for
> this. Connect to your POP3 mailserver on port 110
> (in your case, pop.hotpop.com:110 ) and login with the following
> procedure (replace the word username and password with your username
> and password when following this.):
>
> user username
> pass password
> list
> dele nn
> quit
>
> Thats the end of the procedure. "list" will list all the messages
> you have. The format should be: <message number> <filesize>
> For example:
> 1 1432
> 2 3224
> 3 946
>
> replace the "nn" in "dele" with the number of the message you want
> to delete. For example, if its message number 3, then: dele 3
> Be advised that the message will only be deleted after you quit.
> If just you disconnect the telnet instead of using the quit command,
> the message will _not_ be deleted. (its a safety thing against
> having the message deleted by accident while getting your mail).
>
> Also, unless you'll have "local echo" enabled, you would not see
> what you type.. not really important, anyway. But still should know
> that. :)
>
> Other usefull commands if you want to know: "retr nn" read message,
> "noop" No Operator - let you about a minute or so of no keyboard
> input before disconnecting you instead of 20 seconds as usuall..

That's absolutely terrific Or !

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:15:31 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Damn. I forgot to mention

Bernie wrote:
>
> Clarence wrote:
> > In email, buttons "Address Book" and "Make Mailing List" produce no action.
>
> They do for me...
> I think something must have gone wrong with your installation - what did
> you do to get it like this?

Hi Bernie;

I'm glad you finally got on with Arachne.
My problem is the same on three VERY different computers.

I think you are making the assumption (like some others) that everyone uses
Vesa or Hires video and a mouse..
I think the problem is related in some way to the use of standard (original) vga.

But, you also said you started with Arachne.bat and since I started with 
Setup.bat I thought it best to try your method too.

So, now I have one computer showing the video selection screen just like before
and I still can't get it to accept any input.  What did you do, EXACTLY, to get
past this screen ?

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:54:55 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: memory managment

Hi Bernie,

you wrote on 15.01.00 to "Re: memory managment":
> On a diffrent note how do I use the EMS on a AT (80286) as a harddrive
> cache? I've got 2MB which aren't even used and the HD isn't very fast on
> this old machine so any pointers would be helpful.

You're in need of the specific EMS memory manager that had been
distributed with your expansion card/motherboard chips. Otherwise
there's no chance to use those extra 2MB - that's the wicked thing
about installing real EMS (meaning: not a selectable EMS/XMS-Card
like mine) expansion cards into old computers...

But perhaps you already got this memory manager somewhere, on a
floppy or even on the harddisk. Then the installation is quite simple,
like adding HIMEM.SYS to your "config.sys".

Hans-Juergen
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:55:47 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne Email Inbox problem

Hi Roger,

you wrote on 15.01.00 to "Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem":
RT> SET TEMP=D:\                      <----Change this to: SET
RT> TEMP=D:\TEMP IF NOT DIREXIST %TEMP% MD %TEMP%  <----Change this to:
RT>                                    IF NOT DIREXIST D:\TEMP MD D:\TEMP
RT> Hope this helps.

It helped with my "Inbox problem", too - thanks! ;-)
But nevertheless, it seems to be a bug with inbox.dgi, because the
other *.dgi in Insight do work with a Temp variable set to D:\
instead of D:\TEMP, and they have to create their index files, too...

Hans-Juergen
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:55:06 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: load EPPPD high

Hi Michael,

you wrote on 13.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high":
MLD> Thanks. I wondered what the "reserved" section was.

You're welcome... I forgot to mention that newer versions of MS-DOS
have a system diagnosis tool "onboard" called MSD.EXE. You should try
it (if it exists in your DOS version) - it will give you a memory
map with different symbols for free and used UMB', for shadowed ROM
parts in the UMB's etc., when you choose the "memory" option in the
start screen of MSD.

MLD> I even had
MLD> that on a machine with no windows at all, just dos. I did manage to
MLD> get EPPPD loaded high, but on three machines, if I do that,
MLD> Arachne says, "Undefined IP address" and refuses to surf..
MLD> So, I either let EPPPD remain in conventional memory, or use
MLD> my Netdial 1.3 + Arachne setup. In that, the EPPPD can be loaded
MLD> high, (It's under control of Netdial 1.3), and I get more
MLD> conventional memory for Arachne. Usually showing 148 K rather than 80
MLD> K. in Arachne. For me, anyway, on the three machines I have running
MLD> now, getting EPPPD loaded high does not insure complete success
MLD> in getting a connection with Arachne. I'm using DOS 6.22 on all.

To be honest, I never understood how this should work, i.e. loading
EPPPD.EXE high and hoping to get it to work properly. As far as I
know, the packet driver must be located in the conventional memory,
if he should function correctly. I think it was Guenter Bietzig
who pointed out recently that EPPPD can only install itself within
a certain *valid* range of vectors (= pointers to the memory address).
He probably cited this from "dospppd.txt" which can be found in the
main Arachne directory, here's the part concerning the options of
PPPD again:

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

PPPD for DOS 0.6 beta
[...]
FREQUENTLY USED OPTIONS
[...]
       pktvec <interrupt number>
              Specifies the interrupt vector number to  be hooked
              by the packet driver interface.  The valid range is
              from 0x60-0x66,  0x68-0x6F and  0x78-0x7E. If  this
              option is  not used,  the driver  searches for  the
              first free vector in this range (usually 0x60).
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think this means that EPPPD has to be located in the conventional
memory in order to work, because he is able to search for free
vectors there. But perhaps I didn't understand it well enough...

Why your setup with Netdial works, is a mystery to me - but I surely
prefer to believe in miracles myself... ;-)

And I'm still not convinced that you really need so much free lower
memory to surf with Arachne. As some members of this list have
already stated, it is possible to get it going with even 520k+ free
conventional memory. For example, I call Arachne from my newsreader
as an external application, so that a part of CrossPoint will stay
in lower 640k (most of it will swap into XMS, of course), but that
doesn't seem to disturb Arachne. Typing mem/c in that situation shows
560k of free conventional memory. But I have to admit that I surf
without "auto-download of images" most of the time, only reloaded some
or all images, if I can't navigate on a specific website without them.

Hans-Juergen
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:54:58 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UNIVESA adaptor

Hi Bernie,

you wrote on 13.01.00 to "Re: UNIVESA adaptor":
>>This brings up a question for me: Are the Arachne mail users on
>>this list able to decode a "base64"-encoded attachment with InSight?
>>As far as I know the UUENCODE/DECODE.EXE delivered with Arachne can
>>only handle this method and not "base64" - but perhaps I'm wrong?
> Not that I've ever used the mailreader but there's atleast a function in
> the code called "base64" so I would guess so.

Yes, I think I have been mixing up the different versions of UUEN/
DECODE - there seems to have been a freeware version that couldn't
use other en/decode methods than its own, but the one in Arachne must
be able to decode "base64" attachments, because in the meantime I've
seen some of those here on the list that were done with Arachne.

> BTW: Is your name Hans-Juergen or Hans-J�rgen? (I'm just curious that's
> all...)

Second version is the one... but probably the 7-bit people on this
list now wonder what strange kind of name I have... ;-)
I'm sorry for replying so late, but my main mail- and newsserver is
a BBS near Munich that has to use the Fidonet gateways to send my
mails to Prague - which isn't that far away, by the way. Nevertheless
they take 2-3 days till they appear on this list, which is kind of
ridiculous and reminds me of the old days of the "Iron Curtain"...

Hans-Juergen
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:55:01 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: load EPPPD high

Hi Bernie,

you wrote on 13.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high":
>>The HMA is used by the first program that calls for its use during
>>the boot sequence, but that can be changed with switches to their
>>command lines. Normally MS-DOS itself will use this 64k space, if
>>there's a line like DOS=HIGH in the config.sys. DOS=UMB means -
>>well, take a guess... ;-)
> And DOS=HIGH,UMB means what then?
> I would recomend that you do a "help dos" in MS-DOS 5.0 or above, the
> syntax is:
> dos=low|high,[umb|noumb]

Yeah, and I would recommend to read a mail till the end before
replying to it, alter Schwede! ;-)))

I was refering to the difference between the HMA and the UMB's in this
paragraph, trying to clarify the term "high memory" that Clarence
and others were using in different meanings.

> UMB makes the UMB available to DOS (granted M$have screwed up the
> translation but that's what I remember from the two DOS courses I went
> 95/96 - to bad we don't have any easy courses like that anymore :(

Yes, in german translation UMB's are called "hoher Speicherbereich"
and the HMA is ridiculously translated as "oberer Speicherbereich".
Confusion continues when the differences between XMS and EMS memory
are described, but that would lead too far now...

But you're right: DOS=HIGH,UMB (or two separate lines with the same
effect) is the standard line in config.sys, because it 1. loads a good
part of MS-DOS into the HMA (= HIGH) and 2. lets MS-DOS control the
UMB's that must have been enabled to be accessed with EMM386.EXE in
the first place (= UMB). If this line (or second item on the line)
is missing and only DOS=HIGH is stated in config.sys, it will not be
possible to load anything "high". The same is true, if there's no line
in config.sys that would load EMM386.EXE during the boot sequence with
either the /noems or /ram option.

> >And another BTW: Those of you who use a MS-DOS version newer than 5.0
> >can get extensive help to all DOS commands by just typing "help" or
> >"help emm386.exe" (for example) and will be lead to the new DOS help
> >screen that is even mouse-clickable for those who need it... ;-)
> >The advantage of this help system is that it is easier to use and it
> >goes much more into details (with examples etc.) than the short one-
> >page-only-syntax-screens of the older versions.
> And "fasthelp emm386.exe" will give the old one :)

Right, for the more conservative kind... ;-) BUT: "help.exe" even
has the ability to search through the whole help-file with any given
search term - like "noumb", for example, and stop at the right screens.
Just in case one doesn't exactly know what he's looking for... ;-)

Hans-Juergen
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:54:51 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: load EPPPD high

Hi Clarence,

you wrote on 13.01.00 to "Re: load EPPPD high":
CV> FWIW, on my machine (with shadrow ram enabled) a test with DOS 6.22
CV> MEM /C shows only 64k reserved - I'm sure with a little effort I could
CV> get that to zero.   My boot screen (Under the AMI bios boot report
CV> box) shows: 256k cache, 128k shadow ram.

The effort would be to enter the BIOS setup screen during boot
sequence by pressing <del> or another key and looking for the page
to disable "shadow ram" for the BIOS ROM and the video ROM. Then you
could try out, if the performance of your computer is worse than
before, and if not - well, you've got another 64k free in the UMB's
to stuff something else in there...

CV> That test was done using QEMM 8.01 as memory manager as it happened to
CV> be on the boot disk. I normally use QEMM 5.12 these days as it leaves
CV> a heck of a lot more memory for me.

My opinion is that memory should be used if it's there and not kept
free for something that will never happen... ;-)

Hans-Juergen
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:54:48 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Funny sites

Hi Glenn,

you wrote on 12.01.00 to "Re: Funny sites":

>> Do me a favor, Glenn, and fix your sig dashes from "--" to "-- ", so
>> that my newsreader can cut out everything that is mentioned below
>> ... ;-) Just fill in the blank space behind the two dashes - if your
>> text editor (or InSight in this case) doesn't support spaces at the
>> end of a line, use EDIT.COM from MS-DOS, it will not delete them.
GM> You're right....
GM> The "modify .TBS" choice within Arachne is removeing the space.
GM> Michael, did you already find this one and get it fixed in v1.60
GM> ???<g>

CrossPoint (which happens to be my mail- and newsreader for DOS) has
the same problem with its built-in editor, but there's a workaround
for that: the different signatures are stored in separate files that
can be edited with an editor which doesn't remove the spaces at the
end of a line.

Hans-Juergen
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:24:11 -0500-0500          000
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Got Arachne v.1.60.b1 up'n running

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:22:22 +0100, Lars Wigrell wrote:

> ....without any problems. The install program did NOT crash, as it did in
> the previous version.

Me too!  No problems whatsover.  This is my first upgrade since 1.42
beta.  It was about time I should catch up with the rest of you guys.

Sam Heywood
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 18:42:35 -0500-0500          000
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The TELEBOT website now works much better with Arachne

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:04:58, Dale Mentzer wrote:

> On 30 Nov 99 at 9:22, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

>>> Hi Folks,

>>> Good news!

>>> This morning I just accessed http://www.telebot.com.  To my surprize
>>> I found that that the page is displayed with Arachne much better than
>>> ever before.  The web-master must have done something to fix it for
>>> us.

>>> I would recommend this site for web-based email especially to anyone
>>> using Arachne.

> Samuel,

> I went to Telebot and setup an account and noticed that they have an
> authenticated SMTP server that they say is only supported by several
> Windoze email programs. Is it possible to receive AND send mail with
> Arachne? Also, I had them send me a sample FAX image file in their
> ..tif format but was unable to view it with any DOS viewers  that I
> have. Is there a viewer that will work with these files? Any other
> experiences that you have had with Telebot would be useful. Thanks.
> BTW, sorry 'bout the late reply to your original post, but I just got
> around to checking it out.

> Regards,
> Dale Mentzer

> This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client
>            WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows
>      http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page

Hello Dale:

Yes, I can both send and receive email with Arachne by using the Telebot
site.  As I recall, the program I use for viewing faxes is a DOS program
named PICTVIEW.  It is available as a free download from somewhere, but
don't know offhand the name of the URL.  Any graphics viewer capable of
displaying images in TIF or TIFF format should work.  There are several
different types of TIF formats, some of which might not be compatible
with some graphics programs.

Sam Heywood

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:21:30 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne 1.6 

I'm up and sometimes running.  Have found a few snags already, so am
listing them to Michael rather than expecting him to dig through and
sort out mail on list.

However, I'm also reading everything else people are saying and if I
have same or different experience, that I'll share.  And if I find a
"fix" I will certainly share. <G>

l.d.

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:40:04 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CAN I DO THIS?

Hi all,

With an IBM 286  with 1 meg ram, can I browse the WWW with Arachne?

thanks

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:31:11 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Found the "select" problem.

Hello Michael, All;

I thought Arachne was having a problem with my standard VGA so I borrowed 
a Multisync monitor from one of the other offices in the building. I have
lots of different video cards and drivers.

That didn't help. When I went to setup via Arachne.bat, and attempted to
"Test selected video mode" it still didn't work. I was still stuck on that
same screen and Arachne ignored my pleas for release.

Then, I installed a mouse and mouse driver.
Arachne selects and works under these conditions. I won't say she works fine,
because these are not the conditions under which I want to use her. |-((((((

I guess my first post was right.  Nobody tested the keyboard interface.


- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:52:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stateside goodie purchases

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Gregory J. Feig wrote:

...

 | Is there something like ping, or such I can use to check the time
 | to the different sites, when this occurs....?
 | thanks.....gregy

What you want is traceroute. Here is part of the output from this machine
to egghead:

15 onsale.com (207.168.8.5)  291.813 ms 343.830 ms 369.808 ms

[Three packets on the 15th hop, round time about 300 ms to onsale.com]

I don't know of a traceroute for DOS, but let me go hunting...

Yep, this might work. Look here:

http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/

Package is trt-e01.exe

Also, look at tvdog's site. There is traceroute in the Trumpet Package!

Best regards
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Gregor J Jones                      mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boston MA

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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:42:42 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CAN I DO THIS?

Jeffrey Mayer wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> With an IBM 286  with 1 meg ram, can I browse the WWW with Arachne?

Yes.
Very slowly. You would be better off with a text based browser like DOSLYNX.

- -  Clarence Verge
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