arachne-digest Saturday, January 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 961
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:42:07
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1.6b
On 20 Jan 00 at 19:59, Mel Evans wrote:
>>This is a trial e-mail out.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Mel
>>
>>Sent approx 20.00 hrs Thursday
Mel, I got 2 copies of this message today. I thought Sergei was the
only one doubling messages?! TTYL.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
Funny, I don't remember being absent minded.
This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client
WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows
http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:53:58 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne Email Inbox problem
Hi Mark,
on Monday, 17.01.00 you wrote:
> >It helped with my "Inbox problem", too - thanks! ;-)
> >But nevertheless, it seems to be a bug with inbox.dgi, because the
> >other *.dgi in Insight do work with a Temp variable set to D:\
> >instead of D:\TEMP, and they have to create their index files, too...
MDR> I have TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\ and ARACHNETEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\
MDR> I have Arachne installed on D:\ARACHNE
MDR> I'll try setting TEMP=D:\ and see what happens
No, see my mail to Roger, for example - try SET TEMP=D:\TEMP or SET
ARACHNETEMP=D:\TEMP. The reason for this bug is the missing TEMP
directory on D:, so you'll have to create this directory first.
... und wech... am Mittwoch, den 19.01.00 um 23:44...
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
* ZQWKPro v1.2 [unregistered]
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:53:49 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UNIVESA adaptor
Hi Sam,
on Monday, 17.01.00 you wrote:
SWH> The message below is an "Edit and Re-send". I had inadvertently sent
SWH> it privately to Hans. I meant to send it to the list.
Ach so... ;-)
> > Yes, I think I have been mixing up the different versions of UUEN/
> > DECODE - there seems to have been a freeware version that couldn't
> > use other en/decode methods than its own, but the one in Arachne
> > must be able to decode "base64" attachments, because in the
> > meantime I've seen some of those here on the list that were done
> > with Arachne.
SWH> I have a program that I believe to be freeware named MIME64.EXE. I
SWH> have found it very easy to use to decode attachments to email
SWH> retrieved by other DOS email programs such as Net-Tamer and
SWH> Barebones. I don't remember where I got MIME64.EXE.
Yes, thank you, Sam - I already read this the first time you posted
it. But as you know by now (perhaps), I have to adopt to the slowness
of the Fidonet when it comes to delivering an e-mail to foreign
countries. And so I didn't answer your first mail, because I'm able
to decode any file attachments inside my mail- and newsreader. I use
PKTXCODE.EXE that can handle various types of decoded attachments
within a mail or a news article. If someone is interested, I can look
up the address where to get it, but I think it's only available in
german language (not sure about that).
... und wech... am Mittwoch, den 19.01.00 um 23:17...
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
* ZQWKPro v1.2 [unregistered]
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:53:53 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne Email Inbox problem
Hi Roger,
on Monday, 17.01.00 you wrote:
RT> In the cited example, Jan already had a ram disk set up, so it already
RT> had a root directory, but not a temp directory. Therefore, when she
RT> set the environmental variable, temp, by:
(Jan is a boy's name, by the way...)
RT> SET TEMP=D:\
RT> it set "temp" to point to the root directory. Apparently Arachne
RT> likes a directory with the name, "TEMP" or a directory other than the
RT> root directory.
[...]
RT> Whatever your situation was, I am glad that my suggestion also served
RT> as a solution for you, too.
Yes, and I thanked you (and forgot Bernie), because your mail gave me
the hint where to look. I put "SET TEMP=D:\TEMP" into my config.sys
and "MD D:\TEMP" into my autoexec.bat which has the same effect now,
as you know. The important thing is that this bug of Arachne's mail
reader InSight has been fixed by Michael Polak, as he wrote in his
announcement. I can't confirm it, because I didn't download v1.60b1
yet. I'm happy that v1.50src has no apparent bugs for me anymore... ;-)
... und wech... am Mittwoch, den 19.01.00 um 23:28...
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
* ZQWKPro v1.2 [unregistered]
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:35:59 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Loadin a command twice
to Mark David Roth:
Quoted from your AUTOEXEC.BAT:
LH D:\TEAC\CORELCDX.COM /D:TEAC-CDA /M:15 /CACHE=2,2,2 /XMSSIZE=-1
LH D:\TEAC\CORELCDX.COM /D:TEAC-CDA /M:15 /CACHE=2,2,2 /XMSSIZE=-1
Did you mean to have this same line twice?
Yes. For some very peculiar reason it doesn't work the first time.
I found out that loading it again makes it work OK.
I'm having the same problem with my mouse driver, sometimes.
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:11:10 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bugs in V1.6
Guenter Bietzig wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:30:56 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:
>
> ...
> > Bug 5 interests me because I would like to have some way to scroll small
> amounts
> > but that function has never existed as far as I know. Unless it is virtual
> > screen
> > mode - I don't use that because it slows things down too much.
>
> > Maybe you were using the "Netscape Compatibility Mode". Check the hotkey
> map.
> > This mode requires virtual screens - and you may have turned this off.
>
> > Anyway, I use have been using the up/down arrows to move the cursor.
>
> > - Clarence Verge
>
> Hi Ron, Clarence and all,
>
> for me the 'small scrolling' with up/down arrows works fine in 1.60
> without virtual screens and "Netscape Compatibility Mode" enabled.
Hi Guenter;
Yes, I just tried that. It does work in NS mode but then I have to use a
mouse. :-((
I also tried to get SMOOTH scrolling with Virtual screens enabled and using
the required 256 color mode (I have 12+ Megs XMS on that system) and it doesn't
seem to work for me. I had smooth scrolling selected and it just jumps.
Is it me or Arachne ? Just curious - I'll try it but won't use it. <g>
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:52:58 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AutoLogin Vs. AutoDial
Klaus Hameyer wrote:
>
> AutoLogin and AutoDial are two separate entities the latter of
> which does not exist in Arachne 15b2. A fact which I failed to
> note. Careless of me. Sorry.
Clarence Verge wrote:
>
> If Useterm yes (no equal sign) and Autodial yes (no equal sign), then I would
> expect your result. i.e. manual login.
>
> If Useterm no and Autodial yes then I would expect it to be fully automatic.
>
> If Useterm yes OR no and Autodial no, then I would expect it NOT to dial.
Klaus, I must apologize for the poor description/advice given above.
I was to quick to use the above keywords without thinking properly about what
I was trying to say. In MY case, Useterm and Autologin, two quite different
keywords, were confused.
If you replace the words Useterm above with Autologin then I think I says what
I meant. Careless of me, also. Sorry.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:33:48 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP down
On (No, or invalid, date.), Csaba Adam wrote:
> Dear listmembers,
> I have boght a new (at least new for ME ;-) computer and
> I can't establish PPP connection with the _epppd_.
> I think it's an epppd-specific question because I have
> no problem with other dialers (WebSpider, Trumpet Winsock,
> M$-dialer...etc.).
> Please, help me.
> Thx,
> Csaba
> P.S: Hi, Ricsi! ;-)
That "new computer" might have a win-modem installed.
No Dos programs will be able to use it. (including epppd and arachne)
If it is a win-modem, you'll need to get a real-modem.
(or you'll be stuck with windows for the rest of your life)<grin>
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Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:49:35 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Insert Mail Disk in Drive A?
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:37:11 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:
> Michael,
> Go to MIME.CFG and look for the lines external/SMTP external/POP3
> They're about 1/2 through the file {?} under External Internet
> Protocols.
> When you find those two lines, place a semicolon ; in front of each
> line. Do that and there will be no request for anything in drive A: and
> the "no network connect/Dial Now" screen will allow you to redial and
> send the mail with no problem.
> l.d.
> ====
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:13:50 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I don't have a drive A on this box, and installed
>> Arachne 1.60 using Interlnk-Intersvr, transferring
>> the program from another computer with a null modem
>> cable.
>> I was connected when I wrote an email message, then
>> my connection timed out before I could upload it.
>> Soon, Arachne was asking me for my mail disk in
>> drive A. The Abort,Retry,Fail didn't work, I got
>> stuck in a loop, Arachne would show for a second,
>> then the Abort,Retry,Fail line. Had to Control-Alt-
>> delete to get out. My message was saved in the outbox
>> by Arachne, however, so I reconnected and sent it.
>> I have an old 2.88 MB drive that is useless, but
>> otherwise this old machine works ok with Arachne
>> 1.60.
L.D.,
I commented those lines out as you recommended.
Thanks. That ought to do it. I was also told to
just press control-c to break out of that loop,
but won't have to do that here. Saw another post
where someone had this problem, so I decided to
place the entire post on the list for others to see.
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- IBM PS/2 486-33 8MB RAM --
- -- Hayes Accura 14.4 Modem --
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:27:41 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1.6b
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:59:35 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote:
> Well,
> Got it loaded eventually by importing the various .acf files from
> 1.50b2/3. Seems to work ok on e-mail.
> Don't know if I like the surfing with it though. Page loads ok if I keep
> moving the mouse? and is definitely faster doing this, BUT some of my
> own pages which ARE HTML 4.0 certified now do NOT load but stop in the
> middle, shell out from arachne to WIN95 and ask me some question about
> (I think) CWEDISP and whether or not I want to make a shortcut to it!
> These [pages] loaded fine with 1.50b2/3.
> This is a trial e-mail out.
> Regards
> Mel
> Sent approx 20.00 hrs Thursday
Mel,
post the URL's of those pages. I'll try them in my Arachne 1.60.
Since I have win 3.1 also, I doubt that any problem will cause
the strange win 95 problem you described. I can't imagine
win 95 doing that, however, unless you are going to DOS from
within win 95 somehow, and win 95 is active and getting in the
act when downloading a page in Arachne. Just how that would happen
is beyond me.
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- IBM PS/2 486-33 8MB RAM --
- -- Hayes Accura 14.4 Modem --
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:07:47 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Double command in my AUTOEXEC.BAT
>to Mark David Roth:
>Quoted from your AUTOEXEC.BAT:
>LH D:\TEAC\CORELCDX.COM /D:TEAC-CDA /M:15 /CACHE=2,2,2 /XMSSIZE=-1
>LH D:\TEAC\CORELCDX.COM /D:TEAC-CDA /M:15 /CACHE=2,2,2 /XMSSIZE=-1
>Did you mean to have this same line twice?
Yes. For some very peculiar reason it doesn't work the first time.
I found out that loading it again makes it work OK.
I'm having the same problem with my mouse driver, sometimes.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:06:37 +0200 Israeli Standard Time
From: "Shelomo ben-Avraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
by'"`--
Wanted to add to the matter of fixing a the files at a non-working
mail account using Telnet. I, too, had a non-working account at
hotpop.com for almost a month, while about 220 letters accumulated.
The problem was that the 57th letter was unreadable on the hotpop
machine (disk error?), and the download always got stuck there.
When I tried using Or's advice with the telnet.exe that is one of the
APM's at the Arachne site, the program refused to accept
pop.hotpop.com:110 but worked just fine with pop.hotpop.com 110 (that
is, space instead of standard colon to indicate port).
The "list" command got me an unreadable display of all 220 file
numbers and sizes, but "list 57" got the size of the bad file and
"dele 57" deleted it and fixed my problem. After "quit", I returned
to arachne and just downloaded the whole remaining 219 letters in one
clean download.
Thanks to Or for the good advice about using Telnet with POP3 servers,
and thanks to Michael for the APM Telnet (which works just fine for
lots of other telnet functions, too).
Anybody else have useful tricks for Telneting?
shalom,
Shelomo
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:09:31 +0200
From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
Shelomo ben-Avraham wrote:
> When I tried using Or's advice with the telnet.exe that is one of the
> APM's at the Arachne site, the program refused to accept
> pop.hotpop.com:110 but worked just fine with pop.hotpop.com 110 (that
> is, space instead of standard colon to indicate port).
Hey, its very possible that you have just solved a problem that I had.
I didnt managed to get the Telnet APM to access port 110 as well..
Infact, I had to load Windows each time I wanted to do it because
its telnet application didnt had this problem. Space instead of colon,
ah? well, thanks! :)
Or Botton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:01:56 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne Email Inbox problem
Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote:
. > (Jan is a boy's name, by the way...)
In U. S., it is primarily a girl's name.
QUICK, JAN, tell us, are you pretty or handsome; are you blonde or blond,
actress or actor, mother or father, before this thread goes on infinitum
debating gender of names in different countries! <G>
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:00:55 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:06:37 +0200 Israeli Standard Time, Shelomo ben-Avraham wrote:
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> Thanks to Or for the good advice about using Telnet with POP3 servers,
> and thanks to Michael for the APM Telnet (which works just fine for
> lots of other telnet functions, too).
> Anybody else have useful tricks for Telneting?
Shelomo ........my pop3/smtp server is called mail.hi-line.net...
....instead of "pop..." Would this trick of yours work on my
server, too, or must it to a "pop" prefix....?
...........gregy
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:47:27 +0000
From: Steve - RH Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> Shelomo ........my pop3/smtp server is called mail.hi-line.net...
> ....instead of "pop..." Would this trick of yours work on my
> server, too, or must it to a "pop" prefix....?
The name of the machine isn't as important as the 110 port.
If it's listening on port 110, it's going to be a POP server
99.9% of the time...
(I only leave the room for error, because I never like to
say always. You never know how somebody might strangely
configure his machine ;) ...IMAP listens to port 143, and
SMTP is on port 25.
- Steve
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:47:11 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UNIVESA adaptor
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 18:53:49 +0100, Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote:
> Hi Sam,
<snip>
> countries. And so I didn't answer your first mail, because I'm able
> to decode any file attachments inside my mail- and newsreader. I use
> PKTXCODE.EXE that can handle various types of decoded attachments
> within a mail or a news article. If someone is interested, I can look
> up the address where to get it, but I think it's only available in
> german language (not sure about that).
> .... und wech... am Mittwoch, den 19.01.00 um 23:17...
Hello Hans,
Yes, I would be very interested in acquiring the program. If it is not
available in an English version, I should like to get the German version.
If the documentation file for this program is not very lengthy, could
someone from the list please volunteer to translate the doc file into either
English or Spanish? I probably would not need a complete translation of the
entire document. Just a short description and explanation of the various
command line parameters will do just fine.
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:19:05 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:06:37 +0200 Israeli Standard Time, Shelomo ben-Avraham wrote:
> by'"`--
> Wanted to add to the matter of fixing a the files at a non-working
> mail account using Telnet. I, too, had a non-working account at
> hotpop.com for almost a month, while about 220 letters accumulated.
> The problem was that the 57th letter was unreadable on the hotpop
> machine (disk error?), and the download always got stuck there.
<snip>
> The "list" command got me an unreadable display of all 220 file
> numbers and sizes, but "list 57" got the size of the bad file and
> "dele 57" deleted it and fixed my problem. After "quit", I returned
> to arachne and just downloaded the whole remaining 219 letters in one
> clean download.
> Anybody else have useful tricks for Telneting?
> shalom,
> Shelomo
Hello:
It sure is good to be able to use Telnet in order to deal with the kind of
problem described above. I used to have similar problems every now and
then with the POP3 server at my former ISP. I was always able to simply
delete the offending file from the server simply by using Telnet. With my
current ISP I have so far never suffered the experience of having a message
getting "stuck" on the POP3 server. If I should ever have a problem like
that, I don't know what I could do about it. My current ISP does not even
permit its subscribers to accesss the POP3 server by means of Telnet.
I wonder why they would have a policy of prohibiting Telnet access. Does
anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
Sam Heywood
P.S. To see a web page having really great tips on the usefulness of
Telnetting, go to http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506.siberia.htm
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:25:25 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account
Hi
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SH> P.S. To see a web page having really great tips on the usefulness of
SH> Telnetting, go to http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506.siberia.htm
Great ;)
but the URL is http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506/siberia.htm
(PS: The guy is from my university ;)
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:39:59 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:01:56 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote:
> .. > (Jan is a boy's name, by the way...)
> In U. S., it is primarily a girl's name.
> QUICK, JAN, tell us, are you pretty or handsome; are you blonde or blond,
> actress or actor, mother or father, before this thread goes on infinitum
> debating gender of names in different countries! <G>
> Roger Turk
> Tucson, Arizona USA
Glenn is a man's name..... but Glenn Close (the actress), is a woman.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:39:47 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mice and Cheese -- Off Topic
"P. Stephen Baxter, P. Eng." wrote:
> Countrified mice (field mice?) hate cheese, even the MouldySoft
> kind, but cannot resist Apple.
MouldySoft ? MicroSoft, you mention :)
What sort of Apples ? iMac or G3 ? :)
or iBook ? :) I can't resist it too.
Sergie (AKA "Grey", countryfied mouse).
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:58:48 +0200
From: Sergei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem
Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>
> Glenn is a man's name..... but Glenn Close (the actress), is a woman.
Yeah ? Really ? I did not knew that... How do you know that ?
Ru Paul soon seem to be woman too... <VBG>
Sorry, couldn't resist too.
Sergie
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:33:43 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne 1.6b1 Time Tests (Local)
Hello Michael and all Arachnids;
I finally made the time to compare version 1.6b1 to it's predecessors in terms
of local load times and have some interesting results.
I had to load a mouse driver to make it work.<g>
This version is REALLY a pleasure to work with due to the automatic cursor focus
switch to textarea when in the editor. It is VERY easy to hit F4 (yes I finally
found out you don't have to view the source before editing it <g>), make a quick
change and F2 to see the result. Very fast and easy.
Strangely, this new version is measureably faster in all tested aspects of local
use EXCEPT in manipulating the html from home/arachne.cz in which case it takes
TWICE as long to load and refresh as 1.50b2. Hmmm ? See the second test group.
As usual, all time trials are on a 33Mhz '486 with 8Mb ram and 640x480 VGA.
I have included other browsers to allow some perspective.
Opera was FULLY loaded on my ramdisk - cache included.
Arachne is on a ramdisk (with command.com) with cache on the harddrive.
TEMP is on the ramdrive and Cache2Temp is Yes. FastJPEGS is No.
Netscape was 100% on the HARDDRIVE including the cache. The ramdisk was
allocated but unused except to act as a memory equalizer for Netscape.
All browsers had to retrieve image source files from the hard disk.
Times are seconds with accuracy better than 5%.
Browser Opera 3.5 Arachne 1.50b2 Arachne 1.60b1 Netscape2.02
Load BMP
610,696 134 3.8 3.0 Not possible
Load GIF
73,559 8 4.5 4.0 4.5
170,146 10 4.8 4.3 5.0
231,849 12 5.0 4.4 5.0
306,395 15 6.0 5.5 6.5
Load JPG
185,935 33 26 24.6 19
33,235 16 15 14.5 9
BMP
Bill.bmp 610,696 bytes 598x340 pixels
GIF
Satstorm.gif 73,559 bytes 800x500 pixels 256 colors
Mir.gif 170,146 bytes 576x473 pixels 256 colors
Nile.gif 231,849 bytes 522x522 pixels 256 colors
Cartweel.gif 306,395 bytes 800x535 pixels 256 colors
JPG
Weather.jpg 185,935 bytes 640x477 pixels
Allthree.jpg 33,235 bytes 400x499 pixels
All files available for YOUR testing - please just ask.
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Group two: Timing measurements under 5 Sec were made electronically.
Browser Opera 3.5 Arachne 1.50b2 Arachne 1.60b1 Netscape2.02
Reload GIF
from CACHE
Cartwheel: 6.6 6.1 5.5 6.5
REFRESH DISPLAY
Cartwheel: 0.9 6.3 5.5 0.36
GOTO PAGE END
Cartwheel: 0.275 6.5 5.5 0.325
RELOAD JPG
from CACHE
Weather: 1.04 3.8 3.0 0.60
REFRESH DISPLAY
Weather: 0.92 3.8 3.5 0.36
GOTO PAGE END
Weather: 0.275 3.5 3.0 0.325
RELOAD HTML
from CACHE
Arachne Home: 1.2 (old) 3.0 (new) 6.5 (new) 2.2
REFRESH DISPLAY
Arachne Home: 0.90 1.65 3.0 0.300
GOTO PAGE END
Arachne Home: 0.375 1.0 2.0 0.230
LOAD and DISPLAY
Options: 0.140 1.0 2.6/1.1/1.0 0.120
Preferences: 0.350 5.5/4.0 4.8/3.5/3.3 0.200
Modifications to page background: None /erased/ "" (removed name)
Explanation:
I have found that modifying the html for the screens to set BODY BACKGROUND=""
produces a much faster screen load than just erasing the annoying .gifs.<g>
I tested this by replicating the line 20 times and comparing times with a
non-existant gif being searched for 20 times, with no search done 20 times.
This makes a VERY big difference on slow '386s.
I hope this is useful.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:02:27 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem
On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:39:59 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:01:56 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
>> Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote:
>> .. > (Jan is a boy's name, by the way...)
>> In U. S., it is primarily a girl's name.
>> QUICK, JAN, tell us, are you pretty or handsome; are you blonde or blond,
>> actress or actor, mother or father, before this thread goes on infinitum
>> debating gender of names in different countries! <G>
>> Roger Turk
>> Tucson, Arizona USA
> Glenn is a man's name..... but Glenn Close (the actress), is a woman.
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
Lynn is normally a girl's name. In Warren County, Virginia, it is the
first name of the man who is the County Sheriff. Anyone who would have
the audacity to confront the good sheriff for the purpose of making fun
of his name would learn pretty damn quick that there is nothing effinate
about his personality.....which, by the way, reminds me of a song once made
very popular by the country music star Johnny Cash about "A Boy named Sue"
Sam Heywood
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> Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
> Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
> http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:54:50 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: p.s. Local time trials
Hello again;
I forgot to point out the obvious.
This version of Arachne is FINALLY faster than my Netscape 2.02 on this
hardware as far as loading and rendering goes. <VBG>
There still is a (very) BIG difference with things like screen refreshes where
Arachne seems to do a complete re-interpretation while Netscape just re-paints
the screen. Just doing a page down takes the same time in Arachne as the initial
load- say 5.5 seconds - while Netscape does it in about a third of a second.
That's 18 times faster !
We don't need new code here, just new logic. :-)
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:56:18 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem
In my most recent post on Fri, 21 Jan 2000, I wrote:
"effinate"
Sorry about the mis-spelling and typo.
I meant to write the word "effeminate".
Sam Heywood
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