arachne-digest Saturday, January 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 962 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:24:13 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: One more graphic browser for dos ? Hmmmm ... I thought the 'iron curtain' fell down *before* Arachne got released. Guess the Russians are still saying they invented everything and outsiders are wrong in claiming it is their work. <MG> But, it's hard to tell some software apart. If you look at parts of Bobcat they look surprisingly like Arachne. It could be that once a methodology is developed and works, others are going to attempt to follow the same proven approach. l.d. ==== On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:45:28 +0200, Or Botton wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:57:6 +0800, J J Young wrote: >>> Bernie told me few days ago about PTS DOS. >>> Nothing interesting as for me, but package have >>> graphic web-browser, e-mail-client, ftp-client, telnet, >>> dial-up, as they say at website. >>> Requirements: i286 CPU or better, 512kb RAM or more >> The browser is stated to be Arachne. Don't know >> which version. PTS DOS is apparently used by >> Russian military and space programs. > Just read the system requirments and software features. > Its definetly Arachne, or just sounds very much like it. > (it cant be WebSpyder - Caldera removed the FTP from it.) > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." > ----------------------------- > http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:43:07 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Incomplete Headers in InSight I am spending too much time figuring out if message I receive was cc'd to me or if I got it in error. Why doesn't InSight have a field at the top of the page which shows the cc'd e-dresses ALL the time? Looking at these headers, I would expect to see me in the cc field. Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:03:46 -0800 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: John xxxxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Wayne xxxxxxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: EPPPD (fwd) Number: 16854536-38886742-1 Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the message in InSight shows only from & to fields, no cc field. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:18:36 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: It's driving me NUTS!! Ever since I got my diskcaching installed, I've grown use to the speed of Arachne. When I had to use IE at the hospital I about went bonkers waiting for pages to load and appear. But that was Arachne 1.50s.r.c. and with the new 1.60b1 I'm beginning to feel like I'm using someone else's software again. At first it was a matter of it seeming to take just a tick or two longer to trash or move a file when reading mail. But today I realized it was taking just toooooo long to do anything in Arachne b1 compared to src. So I started paying attention to that "time line" that was added on the bottom with this newest version [unnecessary BLOAT TMWOT]. I wanted to copy some spam to a file and read in ascii to have full look at headers. Hitting F10 for desktop took 8 seconds to get new screen, go to all files and it was 7 seconds to get directory [no logos, thankyou], click on the \\ to get access to all drives and it's another 8 seconds wait, move from root to subdirectory on RAMdrive, 6 seconds ... going back wasn't bad since it was just pages from cache. At least it wasn't bad until I got back to Inbox where I started. Although the message was in cache, since I'd already read the trash once, I shouldn't have had to wait an additional 8 seconds for the page to be loaded .. should I????? It felt almost as bad as before I installed cache. So I shelled out and got a report from my ncache. Where I normally get a hit ratio of 98-99% with s.r.c. I'm only getting hit ratio of 89% with 1.60b1. Something is kludged somewhere. I'm also getting video problems after using Arachne; I don't know it that is traceable to Arachne or not ... I'm still trying to run that down. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:15:37 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PocketArachne Hi guys! Saw you talking ... and I may be lost. <G> I think Clarence said: >> To make ONE diskmaker for ALL users is a real challenge. I would never make >> assumptions about the user's operating system or configuration or even their >> path, for instance. How do we create config.sys and autoexec.bat that takes >> into account the users' choices for memory managers and caching software ? Are you talking a master program to create a PA for each individual user who wants one specific to a certain system? That might not be as difficult as it seems. I can think of a couple of ways of doing it right now, depending upon whether the system had one or two FDDs or would need to first put the setup on HDD then copy setup to FD. Using "chained" batch files should do the trick. gregy did say: > Clarence .....true....that is why we were interested in it to start with > ....we can handcraft solutions for our individual customers, and all the > discussion helps us kind of form a generic procedure for doing this... > That is why I spend so much time with DOS....we can do it here, much > easier than in any other operating system If you are serious about creating a program you can carry on one diskette to another computer, and use to make a customized PocketArachne for that system, get with me privately. I only have about 208 irons in the fire right now, so what's one more project? I'm already half-way decent with BATch language and just found a whole big resource for the fine turning of BATch processes. <G> l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:54:08 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ISP doesn't allow [was Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account] My ISP doesn't allow telnet access to the server from outside the system - -- unless the individual has been previously authorized to do so. I haven't asked, but I suspect that means either password protection or a special "non-standard" port for acces. The reason is system security. Telnet is one thing if you are simply signing into your account, that could be fine. But a lot of people can't work in Linux/shell environment so ... Bigger problem is telnet into other than login port; it leaves system subject to bad attacks and malicious destruction. For those who cannot use telnet, the other option I've mention here -- going to http://www.startmail.com It can access your mail on the ISPs server, and can even get past the security my ISP has put up. That way you can list your mail, glance at it [you could have figured out what #57 was], delete a message, etc. l.d. ==== On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:19:05 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > It sure is good to be able to use Telnet in order to deal with the kind of > problem described above. I used to have similar problems every now and > then with the POP3 server at my former ISP. I was always able to simply > delete the offending file from the server simply by using Telnet. With my > current ISP I have so far never suffered the experience of having a message > getting "stuck" on the POP3 server. If I should ever have a problem like > that, I don't know what I could do about it. My current ISP does not even > permit its subscribers to accesss the POP3 server by means of Telnet. > I wonder why they would have a policy of prohibiting Telnet access. Does > anyone have any thoughts on the matter? > Sam Heywood > P.S. To see a web page having really great tips on the usefulness of > Telnetting, go to http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506.siberia.htm > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:55:36 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Fixed font Hi When I select fixed font in Arachne 1.60b1, than I can't see what I type. (looks like black ink on black paper fontcolor is green) It worked just great in 1.50src. I have to admit, that I don't like the new Arachne homepage style ! Maybe there should be an international version of arachne. (link to a homepage which is pure english, and without the czech links in the toolbar) Otherwise everything works great ... and in contrast to ld it is faster here than 1.50. CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Earthquakes are Earth's way of saying, WAKE UP !!! <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:18:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re2: One more graphic browser for dos ? to "Jorge Alex Ortega O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Your DOZSILA must have been mispelled, and correct spelling is critical for Internet URLs. Computers don't have the human ability for fuzzy logic. I tried http://www.dozsila.com, and it was no good, couldn't access. http://www.doszilla.com was no good either. I am offline now. Next time I will try .org in place of .com. Support the International Alliance for Compatible Technology http://pages.cthome.net/iact/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:18:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: arachne login script Rebel, Here is a copy of my chatscr, used with chat.exe called by EPPPD: ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT RING REPORT CONNECT TIMEOUT 10 '' AT&F&D3W2S6=7S2=128 OK\r\n ATDTW5025151521 TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT \c This is for PAP, not Arachne-specific. I use this outside Arachne to connect, then run Arachne LAN-style with Connection READY and Hangup NUL. Support the International Alliance for Compatible Technology http://pages.cthome.net/iact/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:22:58 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson) Subject: Re: Arachne Email Inbox problem Sergie wrote: >Ru Paul soon seem to be woman too... <VBG> >Sorry, couldn't resist too. >Sergie > Hi Sergie, What's this ...soon .... ? Is Ru Paul having an operation? Or did you mean ...also ... ? Sorry, couldn't resist also ! Eric - -- __________ | Ayrx |__\_ Eric S. Emerson | :~_: ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] `~(*)~~~~(*)~' ````````````````````````` ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:18:39 +0000 From: "John Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:Re2:One more graphic browser for dos? Anyone here tried Webboy? I downloaded a demo some time ago, the demo could only access local filesystems so really couldn,t comment on performance.Apparently it can do web and mail but not ftp. Cheers Johnno. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 23:39:25 +0000 From: "John Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re2: One more graphic browser for dos ? On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:18:58 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote: > to "Jorge Alex Ortega O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Your DOZSILA must have been mispelled, and correct spelling is critical for > Internet URLs. Computers don't have the human ability for fuzzy logic. I tried > http://www.dozsila.com, and it was no good, couldn't access. > http://www.doszilla.com was no good either. > I am offline now. Next time I will try .org in place of .com. > Support the International Alliance for Compatible Technology > http://pages.cthome.net/iact/ I just tried searching for "doszilla" with Google and it came up with the doszilla homepage at http://idt.net/~kassoc/dos Cheers Johnno. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:31:08 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Incomplete Headers in InSight On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:43:07 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I am spending too much time figuring out if message I receive was cc'd > to me or if I got it in error. > Why doesn't InSight have a field at the top of the page which shows the > cc'd e-dresses ALL the time? I agree, L.D., I am having the same problem. This deficiency ought to get fixed. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:52:23 -0800 From: "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne 1.60B1 & WashingtonPost.com Anyone able to get http://www.washingtonpost.com 'Main News Page' to display correctly in Arachne 1.60B1. Seems to build the page then the main frame disappears to white. (Downloads it pretty quickly though <g>). CSS style sheets are used on this site. Bob Buckland ?:-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:40:57 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne 1.60B1 & WashingtonPost.com On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:52:23 -0800, Bob Buckland ?:-\) wrote: > Anyone able to get http://www.washingtonpost.com 'Main News Page' > to display correctly in Arachne 1.60B1. Seems to build the > page then the main frame disappears to white. (Downloads it > pretty quickly though <g>). > CSS style sheets are used on this site. > Bob Buckland ?:-) Bob, I took 3 min to download the page, and then, as you have reported, the main frame disappears to white. Got a glimpse of it, however, but Arachne never displayed it when finished. Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- IBM PS/2 486-33 8MB RAM -- - -- Hayes Accura 14.4 Modem -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:48:34 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:19:05 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > delete the offending file from the server simply by using Telnet. With my > current ISP I have so far never suffered the experience of having a message > getting "stuck" on the POP3 server. If I should ever have a problem like > that, I don't know what I could do about it. My current ISP does not even > permit its subscribers to accesss the POP3 server by means of Telnet. > I wonder why they would have a policy of prohibiting Telnet access. Does > anyone have any thoughts on the matter? Security concerns and the fear of subscribers messing about somehow where they don't "need" to be. Sam Ewalt - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:06:00 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re2: One more graphic browser for dos ? Johnno wrote: >I just tried searching for "doszilla" with Google and it came up with >the doszilla homepage at http://idt.net/~kassoc/dos This page is just as dead as it has been for almost all the time I've been looking at this projects progress. IMO this port of Mozilla is dead, and has been so for a very very long time. If anyone ever thought new Arachne versions was slow in comming out this is a really good example on something that is way way worse. //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:08:23 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Insight and leave mail on server Greetings, I've been using Arachne for a little over a month now, and am extremely impressed so far. I'm using version 1.50 s.r.c. However, I had a question about the Insight mail client. I pop my mail from multiple systems, office, home and mobile (an old laptop on which I want to use Arachne Insight). I select "leave mail on server" for this reason, and only remove the messages from the server from the work PC, where I keep my long term storage folders. The only problem I'm having with Arachne Insight is that it pops everything each time it connects, including messages it has already downloaded. Are there any configuration settings which will allow Insight to remember which messages it has already downloaded, or is this feature not supported in the current versions? Thanks in advance! Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ------------------------------------------------------ Get free personalized email at http://four11.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:11:53 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne 1.60B1 & WashingtonPost.com Bob, It loaded for me in 1:36 on P75 with 2 MB Smartdrive Cache, no RAM Disk. Same experience as you had, except, I could see part of the page at the extreme right side of the screen. Scrolled horizontally and *there* was the text that was being painted to the screen as it was loading. I have my icons small and at the top of the screen. If you have your icons large and on the right side, or if you are using 640 X 480 video, you probably would not see the part of the page. Hope this helps. (Someone familiar with HTML can probably go the bottom of the HTML coding page and tell us why the page shifts suddenly.) Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA Bob Buckland wrote: >>Anyone able to get http://www.washingtonpost.com 'Main News Page' to display correctly in Arachne 1.60B1. Seems to build the page then the main frame disappears to white. (Downloads it pretty quickly though <g>). CSS style sheets are used on this site.<< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:11:53 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Insight and leave mail on server Rory wrote: >Are there any configuration settings which will allow Insight to remember which >messages it has already downloaded, or is this feature not supported in the current >versions? This is not supported in the current version. To make this possible there's a POP3 command "LAST" that could be implemented into Arachne. (Actually this has more to do with core.exe than insight since the later only displays and formats the mails not sending/recieving them). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:26:00 -0800 From: "Jim Varnum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Wierdness at Lineo site Hello folks... I installed v1.60b1 and it went quite well. I am enjoying using it. I was at the Lineo FTP site to see if I could see the files in the /DRDOS directory with 1.60b1. I couldn't. All I could see was a printout of the README file.....hmmmm. But that was nothing compared to this: I looked into a few other directories to see what I could see and was able to.....cool. I then saw a file in /pub called 'dpms.files'. I clicked on it to see if it was some nifty document about protected mode services and low and behold, I saw, on the screen, MY arachne v1.60b1 directory listed!!! It was formatted like a text file....that is, arachne did not shell to DOS and do a 'DIR'. It was as if I had clicked on a text file and was viewing it in arachne. But it was my current directory listing!!! Yike!! That is too strange. Can anyone else try it to see??? Also, have been able to determine why some folks can 'see' into the /DRDOS directory and others can't? Thanks.. Jim - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:42:53 -0600 (CST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael L. Dawley) Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:19:05 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > >> delete the offending file from the server simply by using Telnet. With my >> current ISP I have so far never suffered the experience of having a message >> getting "stuck" on the POP3 server. If I should ever have a problem like >> that, I don't know what I could do about it. My current ISP does not even >> permit its subscribers to accesss the POP3 server by means of Telnet. > >> I wonder why they would have a policy of prohibiting Telnet access. Does >> anyone have any thoughts on the matter? > > >Security concerns and the fear of subscribers messing about somehow >where they don't "need" to be. > >Sam Ewalt Sam, I use Pegasus to delete messages from my email server if I don't want them. I get to view the size, headers, etc. and mark them for deletion. Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:59:50 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Martin) Subject: Istallation problem: stack overflow / memory allocation error This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF6524.013BFD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At our school we have some old 386=B4s with 8 MB Ram and without = Windows, which we want to use for Internet-access. I tried to install Arachne, but after choosing a suitable video mode = Arachne starts to build up its screen (part of the screen is already = visible: bottom line and two top lines) and then error messages appear: sometimes stack overflow; I got around this by playing around in the = config.sys with files, buffers and so on. Now I mostly have a message like memory allocation error = (Speicherzuordnungsfehler in German). I am using himem.sys and emm386 = noems; memmaker was done. During setup I choose XMS and VGA. Exchanging VGA graphic cards did not help! I have done a memory stress = test: everthing fine. I do not know how to go on. I would appreciate any help. Thank You very = much Bernd Martin - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF6524.013BFD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At our school we have some old 386=B4s = with 8 MB Ram=20 and without Windows, which we want to use for = Internet-access.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried to install Arachne, but after = choosing a=20 suitable video mode Arachne starts to build up its screen (part of the = screen is=20 already visible: bottom line and two top lines) and then error messages=20 appear:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sometimes stack overflow; I got around = this by=20 playing around in the config.sys with files, buffers and so = on.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I mostly have a message like memory = allocation=20 error (Speicherzuordnungsfehler in German). I am using himem.sys and = emm386=20 noems; memmaker was done. During setup I choose XMS and = VGA.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Exchanging VGA graphic cards did not = help! I have=20 done a memory stress test: everthing fine.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do not know how to go on. I would = appreciate any=20 help. Thank You very much</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bernd Martin</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF6524.013BFD80-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Jorge Alex Ortega O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re2: One more graphic browser for dos ? - --- John Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 06:18:58 -0500 (EST), Thomas > Mueller wrote: > > > to "Jorge Alex Ortega O." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Your DOZSILA must have been mispelled, and correct > spelling is critical for > > Internet URLs. Computers don't have the human > ability for fuzzy logic. I tried > > http://www.dozsila.com, and it was no good, > couldn't access. > > http://www.doszilla.com was no good either. > > > I am offline now. Next time I will try .org in > place of .com. > I aplogize for this... The problem is that i use the connection of the university, and there are many URL's that are simplified for our personal use... so we use ARACHNE instead of www.arachne.cz to access that page, www.dozsilla.com instead of: http://www.ios.com/%7Eassoc/dos/faq.html and so on... This is for our personal use (that's the advantage of be Hackers....) but sometimes we (i'm not alone) doesn't remember this!!! :( Why?? you might ask... we are boys with no so much time... so we consider that Up to type url's too long is a very waste of time... for us, type the word 'win' is a unpardonable sin, and to use any microsoft product to windows if worse than go to the hell... So we access (with permission) to the local DNS server and we made changes that we use internally... i don't waste your time writting anymore about this :) J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] many others i have don't remember... :D quieren tener verdaderos problemas??? solo descarguen cualquier buscador y tipeen cualquier cosa... obtendran un error de xswap... :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:10:00 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: smartdrv.exe * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-948571801 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello all, On some computers I have smartdrv.exe loaded, and I am wondering if it really does any good. It's one more item that I have to either place in conventional memory or load it high. l. Does Arachne benefit from smartdrv? 2. Is it only for windows programs like Netscape, Eudora, etc? 3. On machines with only 8 MB ram, is it of more value, than say, on a box with 32 MB ram? I've attached a mem.txt to this email that shows the current setup on this machine. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - --Arachne 1.50 on AMD 486DX4-120 16MB Ram 2GB HDD-- - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-948571801 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN ;name=mem.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Modules using memory below 1 MB: Name Total =3D Conventional + Upper Memory -------- ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- MSDOS 17,645 (17K) 17,645 (17K) 0 (0K) HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K) EMM386 3,120 (3K) 3,120 (3K) 0 (0K) COMMAND 3,024 (3K) 3,024 (3K) 0 (0K) COMMAND 3,088 (3K) 3,088 (3K) 0 (0K) IO 80 (0K) 80 (0K) 0 (0K) SETVER 624 (1K) 0 (0K) 624 (1K) ONTRACK 5,312 (5K) 0 (0K) 5,312 (5K) DMOUSE 17,088 (17K) 0 (0K) 17,088 (17K) SMARTDRV 29,024 (28K) 0 (0K) 29,024 (28K) EPPPD 70,160 (69K) 0 (0K) 70,160 (69K) Free 696,240 (680K) 627,104 (612K) 69,136 (68K) Memory Summary: Type of Memory Total =3D Used + Free ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- Conventional 655,360 28,256 627,104 Upper 191,344 122,208 69,136 Reserved 393,216 393,216 0 Extended (XMS) 15,537,296 2,335,888 13,201,408 ---------------- ---------- ---------- ---------- Total memory 16,777,216 2,879,568 13,897,648 Total under 1 MB 846,704 150,464 696,240 Largest executable program size 627,008 (612K) Largest free upper memory block 68,928 (67K) MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-948571801-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:18:56 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fast Installation! Hello all, I got Arachne 1.60b1 installed on this computer in about 5 minutes! Already had 1.50 installed and working ok, so just installed 1.60 into the same directory. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:58:16 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Some bugs Hello Michael and All; I can now confirm that the strange problem Arachne 1.6b1 has with egghead is NOT limited to VGA - it also occurs in EGA. Check out www.egghead.com with 1.6b1. A few seconds after the page starts to load, Arachne appears to switch to fullscreen mode. No title or URL bar, and no TCP/IP time display. The status bar remains. This page presents NO problem to Arachne 1.50b2. Also, while testing at this site from my home, since my mouse driver refused to load because it couldn't find a mouse, I had to view the page source (F6) to find the URL for "Computer Products". When I hit ESC to leave that source display, Arachne went back to the PREVIOUS URL (Yahoo) - not to the egghead page I was viewing. This can be especially annoying because to return to that egghead page (if it was REALLY necessary) would take more than a minute JUST TO RENDER !! Home computer is a 20Mhz '386 ! On the same point as the above, when you altH to hangup, Arachne, for no useful reason, RELOADS the current page from cache. On the Computer Products page this takes 3 minutes and 11 seconds !!! On my home computer. :-(( This last problem may not be new, but it sure makes the veins stand out on my forehead. <G> - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:41:51 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne 1.6b1 on a slow '386. Hello Michael and all interested in '386s; Last nite I compared Arachne 1.50b2 and 1.60b1 on my home computer. It is a 20Mhz '386 with only 4Mb ram. I use an ATI VGAWONDER XL that converts EGA to Hercules (with 16 step grayscale) to drive my flat screen, paper white TTL monitor. I am effectively using EGA. The 4Mb ram limits me severely. Arachne is useless on the hardrive on this computer so I MUST use it on a ramdrive. The memory manager is QEMM 5.12 and the DOS is 3.30. (Still wish I had 3.31 - is Zenith abandoned ??) I use vdisk to create a 2,312kb ramdrive and Stacker doubles it to 4.587Mb. This is a bit of a lie, because it can't get good compression on exe files and Stacker won't let me make a cluster size smaller than 4kb. This results in a LOT of waste when loading all those little files Arachne uses. Norton says I have 10% slack in the root, 19% in \system and 46% slack in \ikons. The remaining XMS memory is divided into 512kb diskcache and 256 kb XMS. I think I should swap that division. There is 603552 bytes of low memory available before starting Arachne. Temp is on the ramdrive, cache, mail and download are on the harddrive, and Cache2TEMP is Yes. FastJPEGS is No, Multitasking is On, and Images are *ON*. The only remaining details that might be of interest are the loaded size and diskspace left for TEMP. With ALL *.gif, ALL WIZ*.*, ALL *.acf, ALL network stuff deleted, and a little more pruning, the loaded ramdisk (Arachne 1.6b1) WITH Command.com has 3,035,136 bytes used and 1,552,384 bytes free. Actually only 1/2 that in REAL bytes free due to the compression estimate. The modem is 33600 and was used at that rate at 0700 GMT. Times are seconds. Arachne version: 1.50b2 1.60b1 Connect and LOAD home.arachne.cz 51 Sec 48 Sec RELOAD (CACHED) 22 Sec 17 Sec REFRESH (F9) 9 Sec 7 Sec Page END 6 Sec 6 Sec Connect and LOAD quote.yahoo.com 26 Sec 21 Sec RELOAD (CACHED) 17 Sec 12 Sec NNC.to (chart) 33 Sec 24 Sec Page DOWN to view 6 Sec 7 Sec Connect and LOAD egghead.com 178 Sec (2:58) 212 Sec (3:42) Link and LOAD Computer Products 631 Sec (10:31) 685 Sec (11:25) RELOAD (CACHED) 129 Sec (2:09) 191 Sec (3:11) DOS MEMORY online 93 [?] 79 [?] MEMORY after altH 117 [+] 103 [+] It's pretty easy to see here why testing should be done with a '386. A MAJOR portion of ALL times above is due to slow LOCAL processing. Arache version 1.6b1 STILL links client side images and verifies images TWICE on a re-load. Doing this once only would cut a whole MINUTE off off the above reload times for the Computer Products page. It seems to me that version 1.60b1 is SLOWER on local operations. I hope this is information of some value to someone. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #962 *****************************
