arachne-digest Wednesday, January 26 2000 Volume 01 : Number 969 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:38:10 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:28:15 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: - ----------------snip-------- > Alright, I didn't hear you say that. BTW, tonight I was successful in > establishing an account at webbox without having to divulge my password for > my account at "shentel.net". Glenn McCorkcle also did the same. They ask > for your password, but you don't have to give it to them. Sam .......does this mean what L.D. said when introducing this thread.. .....that we can use this for posting/upload/download long stuff for this list, instead of attaching it.....because if this is so, I also want such a site, sort of "neutral" ground, where we can go to get stuff without cluttering up the list mailings....sort of like the thing Jake and Hoody did with the Arachne Chat Archive...... .........gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:43:55 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: URL for specs on more than 5300 hard drives, 1500 controllers On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:18:17 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Finally found what nearly everyone is looking for. Go here: > "5300 old and new hard disks....1500 controllers....Layouts! ...... > Jumpers! ..... Installations!.....Utilities......FAQS......Links" Sam .....great...that will suppliment my Microwarehouse CD.....now keep your eyes peeled for something similar for Video Cards/chip sets ............gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: (Nincs d�tum vagy a d�tum �rv�nytelen.) From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PPP down Hi Guenter, Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:03:31 +0100 From: "Guenter Bietzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ppp DOWN >> I have no problem in terminal mode, the manual authentication >> is OK, but when I turn to PPP mode, presently the connection is >> cut off. >which ComPorts have you installed in your machine? At present I use the COM1 for the modem and COM2 for the mouse. >...or send part [dialer] and [tcp/ip] from arachne.cfg to this list. This is a part of my arachne.cfg: - --------------- begin ------------------- [profile] Profile ALBA.ACF Connection @epppd.exe >> PPP.LOG Hangup @termin.com 0x60 > NUL [dialer] DialPage file:ppp_init.htm Dialer @MINITERM.EXE > PPP.LOG TerminalWindow @MINITERM.EXE UseTerminal Yes Port 1 Irq 4 Base Default Mode 8N1 Speed 115200 InitString AT&F DialString ATDT PhoneNumber 06-51-343-025 Autologin No WaitFor1 Response1 WaitFor2 Response2 WaitFor3 Response3 WaitFor4 Response4 PPPusername bleble PPPpassword bloblo [tcp/ip] IP_Address PPP IP_Grab IP address set to NameServer 194.151.0.157 AltNameServer 194.151.0.156 Gateway AltGateway Netmask 0.0.0.0 TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG - ---------------- end .......................... That's all. I'm helpless. Maybe, you have an idea... Regards, Csaba ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:57:59 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New stuff in 1.60b1 Jeemonetly, Glenn! That's a rewrite of a rewrite! <G> But I dood it. Gotta stay on top of these things. <G> l.d. On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:47:49 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: <snip> > Yes, yet another update....<vbg> > Use this line in Mime.cfg if you'de like the saved .BMP to always go > into your "Download" dir. > file/exportbmp.dgi |[100]COPY _4prt.bmp $w$s>NUL \n del _4prt.bmp - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:36:33 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ >Sam .......does this mean what L.D. said when introducing this thread.. >.....that we can use this for posting/upload/download long stuff for >this list, instead of attaching it.....because if this is so, I also >want such a site, sort of "neutral" ground, where we can go to get >stuff without cluttering up the list mailings....sort of like the >thing Jake and Hoody did with the Arachne Chat Archive...... >.........gregy > Maybe what we need is some kind of forum that we could access through the browser. If Arachne had an nntp client I'd say we need a newsgroup, but maybe we could do that with a web-based system instead. How about it? Charles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:47:45 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: V1.6 History Bug On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Edenyard wrote: > I fear that you may have a bit of a problem with the History function > now, though. Several times since trying 1.6, I have been to a site and > successfully viewed the whole page. When coming off-line and then trying > to re-read the page, I'm told that there's no network interface > available, as if Arachne cannot find the page in its cache. This may be caused by impromper settings of cache expiration.... I think I am viewing lot of online pages in offline mode. > If I exit from Arachne and search through the cache for the file that > contains the page I was viewing on-line, note the file name/number and > then use Desktop in Arachne to view the file, I can see the page > (without images inserted), so I know that the page IS in the cache. > Trying history again (or even the Hotlist, since the page's address is > stored there) still tells me that there isn't a network interface > available. There can be more reasons for that, but maybe your CACHE.IDX is corrupted or not present or the file is on the disk, but not in CACHE.IDX, or whatever. > Possibly related to this is that, when looking at the history list, > the places that I've visited do not seem to be recorded in order. > Usually, the list comes up with the scroll bar NOT at the top. It seems > as though most recent visits are being recorded at random places in the > middle of the list, somehow. This is already fixed in 1.60 beta 2/ - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ (homepage of Arachne, www browser for DOS & Linux) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:01:13 -0600 From: Wes Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is it possible to set up a DOS machine as an FTP server? "Samuel W. Heywood" wrote: ... > Do any of you know if it is possible to set up a DOS machine to act as > an FTP server? If such is at all possible, I suppose it would involve > setting up your DOS operating system with multi-tasking abilities. > > Does anyone know about this? > > Sam Heywood Sam, The only ftp servers I can find come integrated with NCSA or CUTCP telnet. I haven't tried NCSA but CUTCP works well. I use the ftp server frequently to transfer files over my LAN. The telnet.apm package that comes with arachne is enough to use the ftp feature, but you need to comment out the passfile="nul" line from config.tel, which disables passwords, or alternatively, you can obtain the full CUTCP package and use the telpass.exe program in there which generates a password file with encrypted passwords for each user. In order to use the generated password file you would do something like passfile="c:\arachne\passfile" in config.tel. I you were hoping to use this to offer anonymous ftp to internet users, I must warn you that as far as I can tell there is not much security to this server. Once a user logs in they will have access to every drive and file on your system. The ftp servers for other operating systems normally restrict users to a "server root" directory which their client cannot go above. Since the ftp server is integrated into the telnet client you can use telnet sessions while the ftp server works in the background. You may also be able to get pktmux working if you use dos multitasking, but I don't think it works with the Arachne browser (from what I've heard). Also if someone is doing an ftp transfer and another ftp session is requested it will be ignored. Only one at a time is supported AFAIK. The above mentioned CUTCP package is available at http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/internet.html Wes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:13:09 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another good mention by Dave Garaffa at BrowserWatch On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Dave Ratti wrote: > http://browserwatch.internet.com/news/story/news-20000124-10.html Yes. Dave have sent me a note. But I think he exagerates impact of Arachne. I wrote him the reasons: 1) Arachne is not optimized enough. Look at those 4 KB and 64 KB intros and demos. They are really unbelievable. Pure ASM code. Sound and visual effects. Really usable browser for DOS should have been written in ASM like these demos :-( I am ready to cooperate with ASM wizards on writing really super-optimized web browser. I have learnt lot of HTML rendering tricks which can help them - but I need my algorithms to be rewritten in ASM, preferably 386 ASM which would directly address memory above 1 MB. 2) Arachne failed to "recycle" old 386 and 486 machines all over the world. Computer industry dropped the prices of new PCs, thanks to many Pentium clones (AMD and Cyrix). So there were only few people who really felt the need for DOS web browser... I don't like Windows even on Pentium II or III, but I must admit that they are usable. Arachne was written because Windows were not usable on 386s... - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ (homepage of Arachne, www browser for DOS & Linux) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:18:39 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ASM challenge I was thinking about what Dave have written on Browserwatch about Arachne, and I think he exagerates. Arachne is still too slow and jerky for older DOS machines, like old laptops or so. I am working on Linux port, which should be faster thanks of liner access to memory above 1 MB. 32bit DOS port is possible, and should be faster too. But: what about browser written completely in ASM ? I can't do that, I must warn you. But I can provide group which would start doing something like that with lot of know how. I can make the HTML rendering code of Arachne open sourced, like Mozilla is. But what I need is group of really good ASM coders, authors of those fantastic 4 KB and 64 KB demos and intros. They would do the coding of new, open sourced (or maybe not, whatever they will like) "Arachne II" browser. I think we can use lot of code used in Arachne - WATTCP library, for example. What is needed is: 1) 32bit ASM coding. I can't do that. 2) rewriting of my HTML algorithms in pure, optimized ASM 3) ultra fast GIF, JPEG and PNG routines, and faster graphics library - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ (homepage of Arachne, www browser for DOS & Linux) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 15:43:28 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is it possible to set up a DOS machine as an FTP server? On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Wes Harper wrote: | The only ftp servers I can find come integrated with NCSA or CUTCP | telnet. I haven't tried NCSA but CUTCP works well. I use the ftp | server frequently to transfer files over my LAN. The telnet.apm | package that comes with arachne is enough to use the ftp feature, | but you need to comment out the passfile="nul" line from config.tel, | which disables passwords, or alternatively, you can obtain the full | CUTCP package and use the telpass.exe program in there which | generates a password file with encrypted passwords for each user. | In order to use the generated password file you would do something | like passfile="c:\arachne\passfile" in config.tel. | | I you were hoping to use this to offer anonymous ftp to internet | users, I must warn you that as far as I can tell there is not much | security to this server. Once a user logs in they will have access | to every drive and file on your system. The ftp servers for other | operating systems normally restrict users to a "server root" | directory which their client cannot go above. Actually, I remember that you can restrict access to certain directories with this dos telnet server, and have different access for different users in the password file, but it might be that that needs the CUTCP version, rather than the NCSA version. I have the docs for these somewhere, if anyone wants them... Regards - -- Gregor J Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston MA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:24:00 +0300 From: "Vasily Zatsepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:18:11 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote: <snip> >> But the decision exclude using AltSysFont option in languges others than >> English. So I can say that 1.60 beta 1 is just unusable (for me at >> least). > Vasily ......maybe this is the problem Vlad is reporting over on the > chat....he is Russian and maybe it is just a font thing, and he will > need to go back to 1.50src.....do think that is so...??? > ...........gregy OK, Gregy, I'll post a message there. - -- - Vasily Zatsepin | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne WWW browser v.1.50 SRC - registered Visit http://arachne.browser.org/ - Web browser for DOS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:47:10 +0300 From: "Vasily Zatsepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:10:58 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vasily Zatsepin wrote: >> BTW, how about old "red boxes" bug? Can anybody help me and test >> http://www.glasnet.ru/~zwb/support1.htm for the bug? I can't see old >> "New Arachne logo" with Arachne (1.50 & 1.60). The picture is visible only >> with M$IE (haven't test it with Netcsape stuff). > This is an old known bug (but very small) that has resurfaced, the file is > the same as welcome.gif that is/was shipped with Arachne and when the GIF > algorithms were changed (for animation *or* - not both at the same time - > resizing) this image didn't show up anymore in Arachne (it shows up in all > other programs I've tried so it's probably not any fault with the file itself). Thank you, Bernie. I've got the correct version of the GIF from Glenn. So, I was wrong with my "red boxes" claims/accusations against Arachne. I'm sorry :(. - -- - Vasily Zatsepin | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne WWW browser v.1.50 SRC - registered Visit http://arachne.browser.org/ - Web browser for DOS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:37:10 +0300 From: "Vasily Zatsepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:08:48 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:46:49 +0300, Vasily Zatsepin wrote: >> BTW, how about old "red boxes" bug? Can anybody help me and test >> http://www.glasnet.ru/~zwb/support1.htm for the bug? I can't see old >> "New Arachne logo" with Arachne (1.50 & 1.60). The picture is visible only >> with M$IE (haven't test it with Netcsape stuff). > That .GIF file has a "bad block" > According to Cshow.exe...... Bad block ID at 10240 at row 0 > Try the attached "fixed" file. You are wright, Glenn! IMHO the bad block was caused by some "optimization" procedure applied to the GIF (your version is just large - 17 Kb versus 11 Kb). Thank you. Everyone can look now at old "New Arachne logo" (really good one ;-). Regards, - -- - Vasily Zatsepin | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne WWW browser v.1.50 SRC - registered Visit http://arachne.browser.org/ - Web browser for DOS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:53 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #968 On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, arachne-digest wrote: > If I klick on "All files" (from desktop) and then the directory "Examples", > and then klick on the "Image gallery" botton, I see the two gif's, but the > jpg is not showing. I get the line: "bio.jpg (converted, original size > 11801 bytes) and just below a box with the word "IMAGE". Yes. It is bug. JPEG (or other embeded object) serach is not performed when Arachne restarts after executing DGI. This is bug. > If in a directory with one or more jpg's, I have to select one of them to > view, and this works. (Picture converted and shown on a new page). _Now_ > when returning to the gallery, Arachne shows _this_ picture and converts > and show the rest of the pictures. If I don't do it this way, I only have > the gif's shown. > > I get this result in all the versions of Arachne, I have tried, and on all > my machines - except 150src. In 150src the "bio.jpg" is converted and shown > imediate. Yes - but many users reported also "freezing" (in other words, endless looping) of Arachne. Well - these two bugs are related. > I only have this bug from the "Image gallery". There are no errors when > looking at a WEB-page (online or offline) with jpg's! They are converted > and shown as they should be. I must analyze what's wrong with image gallery. I think it is the fact, that it is DGI script itself. I added some kind of hack for mail messages; I will have to do the same hack for gallery.. > The 150src is the only version I have been sucessfully connected to my ISP. > ...and no, I didn't give 160b1 a try online, when I saw this fault had > returned. ??? There is little difference in 1.50 and 1.60 dialing configuration... and also same binaries are used (MINITERM.EXE, EPPPD.EXE). > > The only file that normally varies (except arachne.pck which is binary) is > Arachne.cfg. You can, of course, modify the .ah pages (arachne hazard ?) to > customize your local interface. .ah = Arachne HTML > That's the beauty of Arachne. Almost unlimited customizability. Really unlimited ? Compare it to world of open source software ! ;) > > It's not a bug but a feature due to Michael's decision to use only > > 8x14.FNT as system font (may be due to some memory problem ?). > > > But the decision exclude using AltSysFont option in languges others than > > English. So I can say that 1.60 beta 1 is just unusable (for me at > > least). I haven't tested AltSysFont... maybe it is corrupted. I have to check it. > By the way, is there a list somewhere of popular sites that will not > work with Arachne? What about rather building list of popular sites, which *work* with Arachne ?!!! :-( > So with 1.5src on my main puter (400AMD / 128mb ) I could run from a DOS > window no prob (under WINcrap95). > So with (new "upgrade" to WINbloat98) if I try to run ARACHNE from a DOS > box I get an "out of memory" message" & she won't load. If I boot F8 & > chose "DOS prompt" ... run ARACHNE ... she runs GREAT. Yes. CORE.EXE can either save memory or run quickly, but it is hard to optimize for both :-( > interested in. When they get comfortable with that, then introduce them to > e-mail. I put it in this order so that they won't try e-mail first and > inadvertently end up on the web at some XXXX-rated sex site <G>. But many people will end at XXXX rated sites anyway ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:13:22 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A new (old) bug in Arachne Hi Torben, Torben Joergensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I klick on "All files" (from desktop) and then the directory "Examples", > and then klick on the "Image gallery" botton, I see the two gif's, but the > jpg is not showing. I get the line: "bio.jpg (converted, original size > 11801 bytes) and just below a box with the word "IMAGE". > > If in a directory with one or more jpg's, I have to select one of them to > view, and this works. (Picture converted and shown on a new page). _Now_ > when returning to the gallery, Arachne shows _this_ picture and converts > and show the rest of the pictures. If I don't do it this way, I only have > the gif's shown. > > I get this result in all the versions of Arachne, I have tried, and on all > my machines - except 150src. In 150src the "bio.jpg" is converted and shown > imediate. > > I only have this bug from the "Image gallery". There are no errors when > looking at a WEB-page (online or offline) with jpg's! They are converted > and shown as they should be. > > Am I the only one here with this bug? :-( Nope ! I got it too with 1.60b1. From "image gallery" and even from a web page WITH images stored on my hard disk just for this purpose of testing. Further, with the stored web page, clicking on one jpeg does not process the others. I have to process them one at a time, or go to the directory and run the "image gallery" option, then return to the web page. But my copy of 1.50src still does the job automagically in the same setup, just by clicking on the .HTM file. I wonder if it is related to the way 1.60b1 uses xswap memory ? As far as I can tell, this is what has really changed in 1.60b1. It REALLY uses more memory, I cannot even run dgi functions (like show mail folders) in the conventional memory that still runs 1.50src. I have had to scrounge extra conventional memory in my boot-up floppy, otherwise 1.60 will not run properly. I now have 608 kb of lower memory, and when I am on-line with 1.60, I still get the free DOS memory numbers showing in RED (!!!). :( Sad to say, but if Arachne gets any bigger or hungrier for memory, I shall fall by the wayside. :( And I got plenty of RAM (32 Mb) on a 486DX2 @ 133 MHz. But, then, pages are rendered quicker - if no images - by 1.60b1. I guess its "swings and roundabouts". Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:58:16 +0100 From: "Guenter Bietzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPP down On (I can't decode the date), Csaba Adam wrote: > Hi Guenter, >>> I have no problem in terminal mode, the manual authentication >>> is OK, but when I turn to PPP mode, presently the connection is >>> cut off. >> which ComPorts have you installed in your machine? > At present I use the COM1 for the modem and COM2 for the mouse. >> ...or send part [dialer] and [tcp/ip] from arachne.cfg to this list. > This is a part of my arachne.cfg: > --------------- begin ------------------- > [profile] > Profile ALBA.ACF > Connection @epppd.exe >> PPP.LOG > Hangup @termin.com 0x60 > NUL > [dialer] > DialPage file:ppp_init.htm > Dialer @MINITERM.EXE > PPP.LOG > TerminalWindow @MINITERM.EXE > UseTerminal Yes > Port 1 > Irq 4 > Base Default > Mode 8N1 > Speed 115200 > InitString AT&F > DialString ATDT > PhoneNumber 06-51-343-025 > Autologin No > WaitFor1 > Response1 > WaitFor2 > Response2 > WaitFor3 > Response3 > WaitFor4 > Response4 > PPPusername bleble > PPPpassword bloblo > [tcp/ip] > IP_Address PPP > IP_Grab IP address set to > NameServer 194.151.0.157 > AltNameServer 194.151.0.156 > Gateway > AltGateway > Netmask 0.0.0.0 > TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG > ---------------- end .......................... > That's all. I'm helpless. Maybe, you have an idea... Hello Csaba, your arachne.cfg looks ok. Because you make a modem connection, you don't need an address for Gateway and AltGateway, may be ok. You use a 'new' motherboard with 686 CPU and a lot of MHz. If your seriell adapter card (if not onboard) is an old one, the 'Speed 115200' may be too fast, only for testing try 9600 or 19200. After your manual authentication, your ISP sends you something like 'start your PPP protocol' have you pressed 'F7' or 'Ctrl-P' ? Do you see a short DOS- message that the packet driver is installed/ not installed ? That's all of my ideas ;-) Regard Guenter Bietzig, Essen, Germany. Arachne BUG-,CRASH-,WISH-& LOVElist at: Arachne Help Page http://home.germany.net/101/124262/gb.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:33:59 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Re: Fixed font Hi "Vasily Zatsepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> When I select fixed font in Arachne 1.60b1, than I can't see what I type. >> (looks like black ink on black paper fontcolor is green) >> It worked just great in 1.50src. VZ> It's not a bug but a feature due to Michael's decision to use only VZ> 8x14.FNT as system font (may be due to some memory problem ?). Hmm a bug is a bug ;) If I am allowed to use fixed font, and can't see what I type ... this is IMHO a bug ;) VZ> But the decision exclude using AltSysFont option in languges others than VZ> English. So I can say that 1.60 beta 1 is just unusable (for me at VZ> least). Hmm ... what do you mean others than english ?? I use the ISO Latin-1 (default ??) and I can't see what I type .... VZ> BTW, how about old "red boxes" bug? Can anybody help me and test VZ> http://www.glasnet.ru/~zwb/support1.htm for the bug? I can't see old VZ> "New Arachne logo" with Arachne (1.50 & 1.60). The picture is visible VZ> only VZ> with M$IE (haven't test it with Netcsape stuff). I can't see it either ... VZ> Regards, VZ> Vasily Zatsepin | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Marriage isn't a word, it's a sentence <=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:26:36 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT...TCP/IP stack, where...? http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ie3sp1_win16/en/ie3sp1_win16.htm - -- for MSIE3 for Win3.1x (at least that was the location last time I dropped by) Minimum Install Includes the Internet Explorer browser and the Java Virtual Machine. Browser and Mail Includes the Internet Explorer browser, Java Virtual Machine, and Mail client. Typical or Basic Install Includes the Internet Explorer browser, Java Virtual Machine, and TCP/IP Stack & Dialer. Full Install Includes the Internet Explorer browser, Java Virtual Machine, TCP/IP Stack & Dialer, and Mail client. Jake-Note: I use the typical/basic but would suggest d/l-ing the full install, then a custom installation if the mail client is not required. I don't like the mail client but it does "MAPI" (i.e. rouse itself when you click on a mailto link). The dialer may be used with other browsers and mail clients and is much easier to set up than Trumpet Winsock, partly because the ISPs are expecting to be dealing with M$ DUN so no worries over choosing "assword" or whatever. I use the M$ dialer for 3 WIn3.1x browsers and up to a dozen ISPs(!) If you isolate the files for the dialer from the rest of the Explorer package, perhaps you could let us know? Use IEDIAL.EXE to setup new connections. If all the connection icons are in the same Program Manager group, make sure you make a backup group. I also keep a textfile of all the account information. On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:39:15 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote: > > All....... > .......I hate to ask this question on this list, BUT....I need a > TCP/IP stack to work with MSDOS6.22 and WIN3.11.....and Netscape > Nav/Com latest downloads..... > .......Does anyone have a good URL, preferably FTP.......???? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:26:40 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Off Topic: KAK virus A big mail list I subscribe to has been hit by the (benign) KAK virus recently. This has been absolutely wonderful from my position in the food chain, as a rule to only send plain text mail will now be strictly enforced. Reading the 250kB digests was getting just too tiring, due to wading past all the HTML junk from the majority of posters. I've found it hard to convince otherwise intelligent HTML emailers of the error in their ways, or even to find the "switch" for plain text. But the following "kills two birds with one stone" and should convince 'em it's in THEIR OWN INTEREST to send/receive plain text, as well as tell 'em how to set up their M$ mail client. <quote> Sincerest condolences if you were infected with the Wscript.KakWorm virus. In common with some other members of Insider-Equity I opened Outlook Express this morning to find Norton AntiVirus blaring a vivid red warning at me and displaying a new and unpleasant word for my lexicon... Email viruses like our friend the KakWorm are transmitted in HTML mail, and others in attachments. Often, as with the KakWorm's monthly greeting, viral 'payloads' are benign but they cause tremendous inconvenience as we have seen - and our infection this time raises the possibility of more serious viruses in future. This is why point three of the Insider terms and conditions http://www.iii.co.uk/insider/reg-users/terms.htm ) requests that members send messages in plain text. In most email clients this is easy - just go to your address book entry for each Insider list and click 'send E-mail using plain text only' (on the 'name' tab of the 'properties' dialog in Outlook Express). By enforcing plain-text messages we can achieve a much higher degree of security for Insiders while alleviating another problem - the size of HTML messages and attachments. So, on Wednesday at 2.00pm, in the continuing drive to make Insider-Equity run as smoothly as possible, we will start rejecting messages that are not in plain text. You will need to check your mail client settings to make sure messages you post get through. We do not virus-check mails sent to the Insider groups because it would delay delivery significantly, add complexity to the system, and would not guarantee that messages are virus-free. As point six of the Insider terms and conditions states -- the lists are unmoderated and users are responsible for their own postings. Thanks to those who so quickly raised our awareness to the problem and posted fixes - just to reiterate their advice, you can find out more about the virus and what to do if you think you have been infected at: http://vil.mcafee.com/vil/wsh10509.asp and http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/wscript.kakworm.html </quote> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:31:09 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:36:33 +0000, Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote: > Maybe what we need is some kind of forum that we could access through the > browser. If Arachne had an nntp client I'd say we need a newsgroup, but > maybe we could do that with a web-based system instead. How about it? Charles ......that is why this is of interest.....we have an Arachne Chat Archive.....http://switch.to/arachne....that lands you at Jake Young's site with the Chat Archived for each month of 1999...Ben Hood did that, and it is posted on his site, also.....I don't have a page, yet, and couldn't permanently stash more than 10Mbyte (my ISP's limit for me), but if I had a remote site, I could stash anything that I was making available....and others could get their own sites, and do the same.....sort of a stash-ring <g> ......gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:34:44 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 02:50:42 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson) wrote: > Hi Glenn, > I tried the long address you sent below and > I got the same response. See below: > "The URL you recently followed has expired. Please > return to the referring page and try the link again." That's why I said that you'll need to go here first: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ And _then_ link to the file to download. That "long address" is generated on-the-fly by "streamer.asp" each time the link is made. > I am not using Arachne to access but the lynx browser > on detroit.freenet.org . Would that cause a problem? > Eric >> Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> You'll need to link to this page... >> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ >> And then link to testfile.zip on that page. >> This is the "full URL" which will result: >> http://public.webbox.com/streamer.asp?ts= >> b267270287274282268280290293314&p=251110&fi=396717&fn=Testfile.zip - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #969 *****************************
