arachne-digest Friday, January 28 2000 Volume 01 : Number 973 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:35:13 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: shell game Neil Parks wrote: > > In many cases, when Arachne on the home computer (the one with QEMM) shells > out to DOS to run an external process, it displays the msg "Bad command or > file name", but then it runs the pgm anyway. > > I noticed it at first when I pressed Alt-E to shell to dos. I thought > maybe something DOSSHELL.BAT was looking for was missing, so used "echo > on" and "pause" to find out what that might be. Turns out to be nothing. > The "bad command or file name" msg actually appears before the first > line of DOSSHELL.BAT runs. Hi Neil; Check my post re: SHELL to DOS In MIME.cfg file/dosshell.dgi |@call $e\\system\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e Should be: file/dosshell.dgi |@call $esystem\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e > Then it happened on a page with JPG graphics. The msg appears before > Arachne calls the external pgm that prepares those graphics (djpeg.exe?), > but then the pgm runs and the graphics are properly displayed. > > The hot list mgr does it also. This is true whether called from the > Utilities page or from the hotlist itself. (One calls > "hotlistmgr.dgi" and the other calls "edithotlist.dgi". In mime.cfg > they seem to be exactly the same thing.) The "bad command or file > name msg" appears, and then the hot list mgr runs normally. I haven't used this version enough to have seen the JPG problem and I just checked the Hotlist Manager (both ways) and found no problem. I can't see how it could be related to the above fix tho. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:39:51 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: JPEG routines in ASM challenge : Lxpic On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:37:23 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: - -----------snip---------- > Hey Gregy ! > What's going on here ? You're replying to Dev before I have even received > his post ! What's that URL ? Clarence .....sorry....I didn't MEAN to beat you to the punch....<g> ...that URL in .de Dev gave in yesterday's message.......is: ...... http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/ ...........gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jan 1980 01:48:19 +0000 From: "Michael Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Txt to Tbs converter. hey Folks. i wantet to send a text file to a friend, as an eMail and found out, that arachne has no import possibility. so a created an converter, works as a dgi. greg is right dgi is just great! thx to michael a good idea!! get it under http://members.surfeu.at/mihib/download.htm mihi - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 22:24:41 +0300 From: "Vasily Zatsepin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font Hi L.D., On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:02:47 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > But *I* can see that gif in Arachne! Sometimes on the first download of > the page, and sometimes after I right click on image to get it > downloaded and then go back to the page where it then integrates itself. > Is it supposed to be animated or ??? It isn't in b1 if it's supposed to > be. It was just fixed before. Good luck, - -- - Vasily Zatsepin | mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne WWW browser v.1.50 SRC - registered Visit http://arachne.browser.org/ - Web browser for DOS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:59:55 +0000 From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Guenter or Clarence as far as I remember Hi Guys, Some months ago I asked for help in getting an asf done to make Arachne 1)dial 2)get new mail account "A" send mail account "A" 3)get new mail account "B" send mail account "B" and so on for as many accounts as needed in a session then 4)hangup I seem to remember either Clarence or Guenter gave me an answer, and this worked fine till I overwrote 1.6 into my Arachne Directory and now for some reason I can't find the file at all. Could you post this again for me guys? AND! if it was someone else, I apologise for the oversight, and ask can you post again whoever it was? Regards Mel Arachne, the Internet Suite and Browser for DOS, supports tables, graphics, animations, forms, HTML 4.0 Transitional Pages and more. Visit Mel's UK Arachne Pages for details and FREE Download. Kick-start a 386/486, or use on a Pentium for superb browsing! http://www.arachne4dos.freeserve.co.uk e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bccscotland.freeserve.co.uk Web Pages of |British Caravanners Club, Scotland| http://www.euramcom.freeserve.co.uk Mel's Ham Radio Equivalents Pages http://www.webtheon.freeserve.co.uk Webtheon Internet Design ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:52:34 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Txt to Tbs converter. On Wed, 02 Jan 1980 01:48:19 +0000, Michael Bauer wrote: > hey Folks. > i wantet to send a text file to a friend, as an eMail and found out, > that arachne has no import possibility. so a created an converter, works > as a dgi. greg is right dgi is just great! thx to michael a good idea!! > get it under http://members.surfeu.at/mihib/download.htm > mihi > -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ Got it. Thanks for including the SRC in the zip file. But... now I'll need to learn Pascal<g> BTW, Arachne _does_ have an "import function". While in the body of a message, Press F3. Change "Textarea.txt" to the complete drive, path and file_name that you'de like to import. Press <enter> Example... - ---<F3> c:\iomega\version.txt <enter>--- Jaz Tools 5.2 11/21/96 Build #7 - ---------- - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:27:49 +0100 From: "Guenter Bietzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Guenter or Clarence as far as I remember On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:59:55 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > Hi Guys, > Some months ago I asked for help in getting an asf done to make Arachne > 1)dial > 2)get new mail account "A" > send mail account "A" > 3)get new mail account "B" > send mail account "B" > and so on for as many accounts as needed in a session > then > 4)hangup > I seem to remember either Clarence or Guenter gave me an answer, and > this worked fine till I overwrote 1.6 into my Arachne Directory and now > for some reason I can't find the file at all. > Could you post this again for me guys? AND! if it was someone else, I > apologise for the oversight, and ask can you post again whoever it was? > Regards Hi Mel, here it comes again ;-) On Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:31:59 +0000, Mel Evans wrote: ... ... > Can you use ARACHNE with multiple e-mail addresses, for example > "[EMAIL PROTECTED] co.uk" and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ? You can. Use the .acf files. Copy your arachne.cfg to let's say 'my1st.acf'. In 'my1st.acf' make the changes for your 1st eMail address. Then copy arachne.cfg to 'my2nd.acf' change it to your 2nd address. >From the arachne dialpage click PROFILE, click BROWSE *.acf profiles, click at the .acf you wish to use. Now you can download from your 1st or (after choosing another .acf) 2nd mail address. If you are a registered arachne user, you can use the SH-Fx hotkeys to download mail also from different ISPs (if your ISP permits it, for me it works). So you can access both ISPs with one dial in. If you want to use SH-F2 for D/L mail, make changes in both .acf to: ShiftF2 pop3://joe:password@provider1 and in 2nd .acf ShiftF2 pop3://mel:password@provider2 Try if you need the password. Regards Guenter Bietzig, Essen, Germany. Arachne BUG-,CRASH-,WISH-& LOVElist at: Arachne Help Page http://home.germany.net/101/124262/gb.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:44:49 +0000 From: "Flip ter Biecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: arachne and linux (page) Hello, Some time ago I reinstalled MonkeyLinux (from http://www.spsselib.hiedu.cz/monkey ) on a 486. As promised on home.arachne.cz/linux, all seems to work nicely on the console, using the dosemu package that is provided with the monkey distribution. (In fact, by now I installed all available packages except for the "accelerated x servers".) Yet I never (still never, Steve) got MLinux to find a modem, neither on com2 nor 3, let alone make it dial. Does anyone know about this particular distribution? By the way: The arachne-for-linux page still contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" for subscribing arachne-development. Apparantly the address really no longer exists. Bart - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:41:37 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Guenter or Clarence as far as I remember Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Some months ago I asked for help in getting an asf done to make Arachne > > 1)dial > 2)get new mail account "A" > send mail account "A" > 3)get new mail account "B" > send mail account "B" > > and so on for as many accounts as needed in a session > > then > 4)hangup > > I seem to remember either Clarence or Guenter gave me an answer, and > this worked fine till I overwrote 1.6 into my Arachne Directory and now > for some reason I can't find the file at all. > > Could you post this again for me guys? AND! if it was someone else, I > apologise for the oversight, and ask can you post again whoever it was? Hi Mel; I vaguely recall and exchange about something like the above wherein I described how to make different .ACFs for different ISPs. Was that it ? If it is, don't you still have the .ACFs ? There is no reason for a new install to delete or overwrite an ACF with your personal name on it. I did a quick check at the Mail Archive to see if I could find those posts - but the Archive wouldn't let me go back that far. June ? July ? Check for the ACFs and if you have no luck then maybe download those months via [EMAIL PROTECTED] To get the proper filename send: index arachne end - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:21:44 +0000 From: "Joerg Bartels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ATI driver-problem solved thanks for helping finde some win95 software (RoboCam) to test it together with a friends mach64. Thanks for helping (especially gregy) Joerg - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:20:47 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The bios source >>On 27 Jan 00 at 5:57, Mark David Roth wrote: >>It's not doing me much good right now. there's something wrong with my >>system. First I couldn't access hard drive 0, then I could only access >>drive 1 sporadically when I booted off a floppy. Then it identified it >>as C: drive. Now it won't let me access any of my drives at all. I've >>tried three different IO controller cards so far A Compaq FDD, HDD, >>serial and LPT card is what I was originally using. Then I tried an >>AccuLogic sIDE 4/PLUS HDD, FDD, LPT, 2 COMs and game port card. Now I'm >>getting desperate and I tried a JCC made in China, HDD and FD. The only >>other cards I have left in my collection is a Acculogic sIDE-1, HDD, >>with either a made in Taiwan R.O.C, FDD, for up to 4 floppies or a >>Suntec FDC-400, FDD. I don't have much hope for any of them. >>I think something is wrong with my CMOS. I finally just checked my >>battery. It reads 3.6 volts on my multimeter. I think it's supposed to >>be 6 volts isn't it? It looks like I probably need a new battery. Now >>where can I find one of those? CompUSA says they can order me one. I >>hope the right one. It's a simple plug in to the socket on the main >>board. With my luck I'll probable have to make the thing up myself. Good >>thing I have a lot of spare parts from my failed business. Sorry if I >>meandered off subject a bit. If anybody hads any suggestions, I'd be >>glad to hear them. I better quite typing I can't see my keyboard through >>all the >IO boards I have >>stacked up around it right now. - -Dale Mentzer replied: - -If you replace your battery and still have problems after you - -reconfigure your BIOS setup for your drive(s) then you might want to - -explore the possibility of some sort of CMOS virus (AntiCMOS, for - -example) that might be corrupting your BIOS when you boot. BTW, you - -can get CMOS battery replacment holders that use regular AA alkaline - -batteries and then you won't be needing to get any special batteries. I put together a 6 volt battery pack and hooked it up according to the instructions in the manual. Every time I turned the machine of it lost all the CMOS settings. It wasn't until I disconnected the battery pack that it would save the the settings during shutdown. Did I hook up the battery backwards or what. The manual said pin 1 6 volts, pin 2 not used, pin 3 and 4 ground. I attached the positive side of the battery to pin 1 and the negative side to pins 3 and 4. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:45:01 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT...TCP/IP stack, where...? J J Young wrote: (regarding IEs dailer) >The dialer >may be used with other browsers and mail clients and is much easier to set up >than Trumpet Winsock, partly because the ISPs are expecting to be dealing with >M$ DUN so no worries over choosing "assword" or whatever. I must say that this isn't true (n my case anyway). Setting Trumpet up for a new ISP is just a matter of changing name, password, phone number and DNS. How can it become any easier then that? In my experience the dialer from M$ does NOT work (it kept forgetting that there was a modem connected to the computer and it was a USR and it did find it every time it searched again), but that might just have been a special case. Still there's no need to claim that one needs to choose "assword" or something like that to get connected with Trumpet WinSock (choose PAP and everything works - quite frankly that's the only way I know how to set it up). //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:50:00 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font Vasily Zatsepin wrote: >Thank you, Bernie. I've got the correct version of the GIF from Glenn. >So, I was wrong with my "red boxes" claims/accusations against Arachne. >I'm sorry :(. And Glenn wrote: > That .GIF file has a "bad block" > According to Cshow.exe...... Bad block ID at 10240 at row 0 But why do other programs manage to view it? (ex. PV, QPV, Netscape, IE) //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:16:32 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The bios source On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:20:47 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote: > I put together a 6 volt battery pack and hooked it up according to the I know that a lot of people use a 6 volt battery pack for external CMOS power. 3.6 volts is sufficient. I use a 4.5 volt battery pack. > instructions in the manual. Every time I turned the machine of it lost > all the CMOS settings. It wasn't until I disconnected the battery pack > that it would save the the settings during shutdown. Did I hook up the > battery backwards or what. The manual said pin 1 6 volts, pin 2 not used, > pin 3 and 4 ground. I attached the positive side of the battery to > pin 1 and the negative side to pins 3 and 4. Hello Mark - I have enjoyed having the same kind of frustrations myself, and the experience of discovering the simple solution. Did you remember to enable external CMOS power? There is a jumper on the motherboard that you have to set in order to enable any provision for external CMOS power. If you don't know which of the jumpers is used for that purpose, then trace your CMOS power source with a multimeter. You'll easily find the right jumper. Sam Heywood Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:35:10 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Ondraska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Bernie wrote: > Vasily Zatsepin wrote: > >Thank you, Bernie. I've got the correct version of the GIF from Glenn. > >So, I was wrong with my "red boxes" claims/accusations against Arachne. > >I'm sorry :(. > > And Glenn wrote: > > That .GIF file has a "bad block" > > According to Cshow.exe...... Bad block ID at 10240 at row 0 > > But why do other programs manage to view it? (ex. PV, QPV, Netscape, IE) The last time I looked into that image I saw there is a bug in the image :)) The last character is #0 (null) instead of ';' (as it should be according to the GIF specification). The ; means an end of the file for gif readers. Therefore some of them may have problems to read this file correctly if it is incorrect. But as I said it was about a year ago, maybe its something different you are talking about :)) Peter Ondraska ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:28:53 +0100 (CET) From: Van Voordturen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Installation problem, stack overflow, memory allocation error Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:20:05 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Martin) Subject: Installation problem, stack overflow, memory allocation error 1. Please try sending plain .txt 2. maybe dos=high,umb (on one line) in config.sys might help. (io.sys on my mem/d output is only 13 Kb) 3. skip memmaker. "lh" is enough. all the "lh /l" stuff can only be bugging. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:45:23 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The bios source >>On 27 Jan 00 at 5:57, Mark David Roth wrote: >>It's not doing me much good right now. there's something wrong with my >>system. First I couldn't access hard drive 0, then I could only access >>drive 1 sporadically when I booted off a floppy. Then it identified it >>as C: drive. Now it won't let me access any of my drives at all. I've >>tried three different IO controller cards so far A Compaq FDD, HDD, >>serial and LPT card is what I was originally using. Then I tried an >>AccuLogic sIDE 4/PLUS HDD, FDD, LPT, 2 COMs and game port card. Now I'm >>getting desperate and I tried a JCC made in China, HDD and FD. The only >>other cards I have left in my collection is a Acculogic sIDE-1, HDD, >>with either a made in Taiwan R.O.C, FDD, for up to 4 floppies or a >>Suntec FDC-400, FDD. I don't have much hope for any of them. >>I think something is wrong with my CMOS. I finally just checked my >>battery. It reads 3.6 volts on my multimeter. I think it's supposed to >>be 6 volts isn't it? It looks like I probably need a new battery. Now >>where can I find one of those? CompUSA says they can order me one. I >>hope the right one. It's a simple plug in to the socket on the main >>board. With my luck I'll probable have to make the thing up myself. Good >>thing I have a lot of spare parts from my failed business. Sorry if I >>meandered off subject a bit. If anybody hads any suggestions, I'd be >>glad to hear them. I better quite typing I can't see my keyboard through >>all the >IO boards I have >>stacked up around it right now. - -Dale Mentzer replied: - -If you replace your battery and still have problems after you - -reconfigure your BIOS setup for your drive(s) then you might want to - -explore the possibility of some sort of CMOS virus (AntiCMOS, for - -example) that might be corrupting your BIOS when you boot. BTW, you - -can get CMOS battery replacment holders that use regular AA alkaline - -batteries and then you won't be needing to get any special batteries. - -I put together a 6 volt battery pack and hooked it up according to the - -instructions in the manual. Every time I turned the machine of it lost - -all the CMOS settings. It wasn't until I disconnected the battery pack - -that it would save the the settings during shutdown. Did I hook up the - -battery backwards or what. The manual said pin 1 6 volts, pin 2 not used, - -pin 3 and 4 ground. I attached the positive side of the battery to - -pin 1 and the negative side to pins 3 and 4. I reinstalled the Compaq IO, FDD, HDD controller card. Ten I reset the jumpers on the 540 drive, I haven't been able to access at all, to DS, making it the master drive 0. I removed the jumpers from the 240 making it the slave drive 1. Then I reset the BIOS to support that. Now when I start up I still get the HDD controller failure message <F1>, but I can boot off a floppy which loads DRVSPACE. Then I can access the 240 drive from that. But it's recognized as drive C:, which doesn't make any sense to me at all. FDISK recognizes both drives, but when I try to partition drive 0, the 540, it locks up on me and I have to do a hard reboot. I also have a bunch of HD diagnostic programs that recognize both drives but when I try to run tests on drive 0 I get a lot of drive not ready error messages. IO have a saying "When all else fails try the absurd". Maybe I'll try hooking up the battery pack backwards, the negative to the 6 volt pin and the positive to the two ground pins. The worst that could happen is blow up my system. Right? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:51:16 +0000 From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ACF's Guenter/Clarence Hi guys, Thanks for help again. What I've ended up with is a combination of both answers, and I've created a new .acf that goes arachne:dialler file://no1.acf pop3: smtp: file://no2.acf and so on ending with arachne:hangup file://inbox.dgi This actually works better than the old one, and of course ends with the same inbox each time, the one for the last .acf in the sequence. Since I've added the .acf profiles to the desktop with icons for e-mail, and a "send/receive all mail" one for the above general.acf , then I can go in and out any time whatever. Suits me fine anyway. AND the cut and paste is definitely lots better in 1.6 now! was lots easier to create the .acf files using it and the desktop alterations were much easier. Regards Mel Arachne, the Internet Suite and Browser for DOS, supports tables, graphics, animations, forms, HTML 4.0 Transitional Pages and more. Visit Mel's UK Arachne Pages for details and FREE Download. Kick-start a 386/486, or use on a Pentium for superb browsing! http://www.arachne4dos.freeserve.co.uk e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bccscotland.freeserve.co.uk Web Pages of |British Caravanners Club, Scotland| http://www.euramcom.freeserve.co.uk Mel's Ham Radio Equivalents Pages http://www.webtheon.freeserve.co.uk Webtheon Internet Design ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:46:17 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Installation problem, stack overflow, memory allocation error Ok, I'll suggest this as new files. Autoexec.Bat: @echo off LH c:\dos\smartdrv.exe /x prompt $p$g path=c:\mouse;c:\dos; lh mouse SER 1 rem You could download ctmouse instead - it will probably use less memory SET TEMP=C:\Temp SET ARACHNE=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv SET ARACHNETEMP=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv SET MYIP=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv SET REMIP=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv SET NETMASK=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv SET PEERMRU=vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv lh c:\dos\keyb.com gr Config.Sys: DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN BUFFERS=20,0 rem Others think other (lower) values are better - in any case 80 is way to high! FILES=60 DOS=high,UMB LASTDRIVE=Z rem You can change this to ex. C if you know that you'll only need few FCBS=4,0 stacks=20,512 devicehigh=c:\dos\setver.exe rem This might actually be useless, remove it and see if everything works rem as soon as a program complains then reenable it //Bernie http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:44:11 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ATI driver-problem solved thanks for helping On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 02:21:44 +0000, Joerg Bartels wrote: > finde some win95 software (RoboCam) to test it together > with a friends mach64. > Thanks for helping (especially gregy) Joerg ........who..???.....me...???? ............gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #973 *****************************
