arachne-digest Saturday, January 29 2000 Volume 01 : Number 974 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:39:17 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ASM challenge gregy is correct in saying it doesn't have to ALL be rewritten in assembler. And Michael is right in thinking that decent assembler code would be faster than some C modules. But bad assembler can be slower than good C. And I'm willing to bet that good ol' plain C can be faster than any C++--==?? because the "turbo Cs" add junk and crap that doesn't need to be there. Often a C++ compile will have 5 or 6 lib files added just to get certain functions; a customized lib file would both run cleaner and faster because all the dross isn't in the way. But whichever way things may go in the future, I think the most important thing NOW is to turn out the best program possible under the circumstances using the current language. It would be a disservice to Arachne, to Michael's years of work, to all those who have tested and poked and prodded and torn apart and rebuilt and tested some more. To stop the completion of Arachne as a complete working package [regardless of how "slow" some may consider it] and start going off on a tangent, trying something new or "better" would be a shame. It needs to be finished and polished a bit so that those with DOS systems have something *reliable* to use. I'd like to be able to use a site that is Javascripted or has horrid long lines, reliably. It it's a bit slower than something else under another OS I could care less. What I want is something that *works* under DOS. And that needs to be soon, because the entire world is waking up to Linux -- particularly since Linus and his group announced that new chip architecture ... an architecture that I'm sure is Linux friendly. ==== On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:32:02 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:45:53 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Bernie .....I think some speed-up can be done ASM coding only the > most time-wasting, computer-intensive stuff, and running it inline > in the C code....at least that would be a start, without going for > a complete revamp and from scratch ASM recoding... > .............gregy > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:27:56 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fixed font On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:50:00 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vasily Zatsepin wrote: >> Thank you, Bernie. I've got the correct version of the GIF from Glenn. >> So, I was wrong with my "red boxes" claims/accusations against Arachne. >> I'm sorry :(. > And Glenn wrote: >> That .GIF file has a "bad block" >> According to Cshow.exe...... Bad block ID at 10240 at row 0 > But why do other programs manage to view it? (ex. PV, QPV, Netscape, IE) I don't understand why. But, 3 viewers had no problems, 5 could not view it al-all and 1 (Cshow), could not view it but told "why" it could not. Strange, very strange. It's fixed now.... that's the important point.<g> - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:12:52 +0100 From: "(null)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Dialer in ARCN16B1 Hello all, I've got a problem with the Dialer (Miniterm) in Arachne 1.6B1; I copied my old arachne.cfg from my 1.5 version and started the dialer. It connects after dialing the number, and then I press F7 as usual. But at the next moment the connection is aborted. What do I wrong? Regards, Christoph ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:20:58 +0100 From: "(null)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rendering Bug Dear Michael, i found a little bug in the html-render-engine. If a file contains for example following lines <!-- Generated by MailMan 3.5; farecore-left=484080 --> <BASE HREF=file://inbox.dgi> 7#head <TITLE>INBOX</TITLE> it writes the '7#head' on the screen. Of course, a html-document should never contain such a "non-tagged" instruction, but a document could contain it. (It is not a clear bug, but also not a feature, I would call it a 'error-handling-bug') I found this bug, because on of the mailprograms (in ARCN16B1-package) created these lines after executing 'inbox.dgi'. Regards, Christoph - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:2:58 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Commercial website design It's unusual for the "suits, prop-heads and ponytails" to reply to any sort of criticism about their website designs, but I have just read this response to someone who complained about the London Ofex stock exchange (which has recently slowed down considerably due to much heavier traffic): <quote> The reason why we don't "stream" prices is that our web analysis software has shown that the vast majority of users have browsers that currently can't cope with the scripting. Until that trend is reversed, with the advent of digital on-line TV and higher spec/lower cost PCs, we will continue to update every 5 minutes. </quote> So, there we have it, straight from the horse's mouth: "the vast majority of users have browsers that currently can't cope with the scripting"! Fancy "bleeding edge" websites at fancy prices are no use to the majority (and have probably been demonstrated off a local drive to the decision-makers). Perhaps it is our duty to complain, not to the web-designer, but to the company consumer relations department. http://www.peoplesound.com offer a free compilation CD, but don't want folks with less than a 4th generation Windows browser applying -- so look at the webpage source and find the link you need. I think they'll mail anywhere in the world. Not my choice of music, but it's fun to beat the system. Jake http://switch.to/arachne for Archne Quick Chat archives, palettes and search engines ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:2:55 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT...TCP/IP stack, where...? I've not used Trumpet Winsock for over a year but I do remember the documentation to be confusing, and there to be plenty of options with little immediately useful explanation. Nowadays the ISPs realize that anything more than the phone number is too tough for the average user to cope with! I couldn't connect with Trumpet "straight out of the box" because my ISP was expecting a password prompt of "ssword" (so I think the default must be "assword"). Bernie said: > Still there's no need to claim that one needs to choose "assword" or something like > that to get connected with Trumpet WinSock (choose PAP and everything works - > quite frankly that's the only way I know how to set it up). - -- That tells me that if you delved some more, Trumpet might get completely screwed up. I don't know if the M$ ULA states that the dialer component may only be used with M$ software. IE3 is worth keeping for testing pages and can cope with *some* Java that more recent Opera baulks at -- so I'm saying M$IE3 is worth having on a Win3.1x machine. Plus you get the dialer, which probably works without problems for 95% of users. The downside (compared to Trumpet) is the bigger download, but the M$ is free. If that bothers anyone, they could send Trumpet a donation. Jake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:12:30 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The bios source On 28 Jan 00 at 1:20, Mark David Roth wrote: >>-Dale Mentzer replied: >>-If you replace your battery and still have problems after you >>-reconfigure your BIOS setup for your drive(s) then you might want to >>-explore the possibility of some sort of CMOS virus (AntiCMOS, for >>-example) that might be corrupting your BIOS when you boot. BTW, you >>-can get CMOS battery replacment holders that use regular AA alkaline >>-batteries and then you won't be needing to get any special batteries. >> >>I put together a 6 volt battery pack and hooked it up according to the >>instructions in the manual. Every time I turned the machine of it lost all >>the CMOS settings. It wasn't until I disconnected the battery pack that it >>would save the the settings during shutdown. Did I hook up the battery >>backwards or what. The manual said pin 1 6 volts, pin 2 not used, pin 3 and >>4 ground. I attached the positive side of the battery to pin 1 and the >>negative side to pins 3 and 4. The only thing I can suggest is to connect the battery "backwards" from the way the manual says and see if that works. Otherwise, I am out of ideas. Regards, Dale Mentzer It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:59:04 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Thanks for help concerning RSA, PGP, and secure websites Dear Folks: Several of you have been very helpful and considerate with me in helping me to understand the theory behind modern encryption systems as used with internet protocols and email. You have referred me to various URLs on the subject which I found indeed very interesting and informative. I have recently read an excellent book on the subject of encryption, and I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in this topic. The book title is "Code Breaking, a History and Exploration" by Rudolf Kippenhalm. This book was originally published in German. The author received his Ph.D. in mathematics from Erlangen University. He is the author also of a highly praised book "One Hundred Billion Suns". His book on code breaking covers the history of encryption from the most ancient times to the modern era. He presents many interesting anecdotes from the history of espionage and spycraft. The subject matter is explained very clearly and without perplexing the reader with highly complex mathematical formulae and algorithms. This book has answered all my questions on the theory behind the new internet encryption protocols. It is one of the most fascinating books I have read in a long time. BTW, the author says that a freeware program has been written for the PC that can turn your machine into an Enigma, the German encryption machine of World War II. He describes the program as a an Enigma simulator, and said that it was available from ftp://agn-www.infomatik.unihamburg.de/pub/cryptsim/simulators. The program is named enigma22.exe, and it is available only in a German version. It was written by Marian Kassovic, an information scientist of the University of Hamburg. I was unable to connect with this ftp site. If anyone knows of an alternate site where I might obtain this program, please post it. Of course I know that the Enigma is not modern by today's standards, but I would find the program very interesting as a matter of historical curiosity. Thanks again to all those who have helped me to understand how modern encryption systems work and have spurred my interest in this subject. found every bit of it highly fascinating - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:58:43 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: load EPPPD high On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:30:25 +0100, Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote: > By the way, can you confirm that v1.60 b1 is much faster than v1.50src, > even up to four times like someone wrote? I don't have the opportunity > to test and compare Arachne with Windows browsers, so I just don't know - > but I would like to... Hans, 1.60b1 seems faster in the processing of a downloaded page than 1.50src. I doubt it's four times faster overall, however. What I really like about 1.60 is the ease of setup, especially the graphics. On this machine, arachne detected a vesa adapter, and I was able to more accurately set up my graphics in Arachne as a result of knowing that. My test images help me decide quickly if I have the graphics correctly set up. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- Tandy 486DX-50 8 MB RAM with Aptiva 270 MB HDD -- -- Using Netdial 1.3 - Arachne 1.60 combination -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:01:04 +0000 From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: CMOS battery Dear Mark, You wrote recently about troubles with your CMOS battery and that it only measured 3.6V when you thought that it should have been 6V. Proceed with caution here. There are some that run on 3.6V batteries and also some that run on 3V. Is your battery marked 6V? Does it have a part number? Often, people replace a failed expensive lithium CMOS battery with a string of 'AA' cells in a normal plastic multiple 'AA'-style holder. All you have to do is to decide how many you need: 2, 3 or 4. In that way, you don't end up paying through the nose to keep the CMOS alive. Since CMOS technology only draws nanoamps when in standby, 'AA' cells will work nicely. Usually, 'AA' cells in this sort of application fail due to old age before their energy has been drained. If you can report a battery part number, we may be able to decipher the proper voltage for you. Hope this helps! Ron. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:12:16 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is it possible to set up a DOS machine as an FTP server? On or about 24 Jan 2000, I wrote: > Do any of you know if it is possible to set up a DOS machine to act as > an FTP server? If such is at all possible, I suppose it would involve > setting up your DOS operating system with multi-tasking abilities. > Does anyone know about this? To those of you who replied to this question, especially Howard Eisenberger and Wes Harper, many thanks. And to you Wes, thanks for the warnings on the computer-security issues involved. I don't suppose I'll be trying set up my computer right away for the purpose of acting as an ftp server. I've got a lot more to study and learn before trying out any experiments of the kind. Again, thanks for the replies. All the best, Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:38:22 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The MOVE message feature, Arachne version 1.60 Hi Folks: Hey, I want King Michael and the rest of you guys to know that I really like the MOVE message feature in Arachne 1.60. I tried out using this feature for the first time early this morning. That is something really fabulous, the way my Arachne automagically creates a new folder, complete with ikon and all, and moves the message to the new folder, seemingly all in one step. To accomplish the equivalent sort of thing with Windoze, you have to do it in several steps, and you have to resort to the idiotic grab and drag and drop routine. Michael has discovered a much better way of doing it! Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:38:09 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT Re: CMOS battery On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:01:04 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Often, people replace a failed expensive lithium CMOS battery with a The "expensive lithium CMOS battery" for this P150 has a price tag of 3.00 That's right...... 3 dollars for the CR2032 about 1/2 way down this page http://baber.com/baber/products/computer_clock_batteries.htm Not bad considering they have a life-span of over 5 years.<g> - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:55:17 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The MOVE message feature, Arachne version 1.60 On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:38:22 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Hi Folks: > Hey, I want King Michael and the rest of you guys to know that I really > like the MOVE message feature in Arachne 1.60. > I tried out using this feature for the first time early this morning. > That is something really fabulous, the way my Arachne automagically > creates a new folder, complete with ikon and all, and moves the > message to the new folder, seemingly all in one step. Yes, It is a nice feature. And it's not just "seemingly" one step. It _is_ one step. This is the line in mime.cfg which tells insight what to do. file/movemail2.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -2 -q=$q -cache=$t>$2 > To accomplish the equivalent sort of thing with Windoze, you have to > do it in several steps, and you have to resort to the idiotic grab and > drag and drop routine. > Michael has discovered a much better way of doing it! Yep, let those Win-Idiots keep doing it _their_ way.<g> - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:04:50 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:01:04 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Mark, > You wrote recently about troubles with your CMOS battery and that it > only measured 3.6V when you thought that it should have been 6V. > Proceed with caution here. There are some that run on 3.6V > batteries and also some that run on 3V. Is your battery marked 6V? Does > it have a part number? > Often, people replace a failed expensive lithium CMOS battery with a > string of 'AA' cells in a normal plastic multiple 'AA'-style holder. All > you have to do is to decide how many you need: 2, 3 or 4. In that way, > you don't end up paying through the nose to keep the CMOS alive. Since > CMOS technology only draws nanoamps when in standby, 'AA' cells will > work nicely. Usually, 'AA' cells in this sort of application fail > due to old age before their energy has been drained. > If you can report a battery part number, we may be able to decipher > the proper voltage for you. > Hope this helps! > Ron. Pardon me if I interject a comment here. If it is a 3.6 volt battery, it will consist of 3 Ni-Cad cells stacked up in series inside a little plastic tube. You can count the number of cells by feeling the number of annular ripples around the circumference of the plastic tube. A single lithium cell has three volts. Ni-Cad cells have 1.2 volts each. Ron, you are right in saying that "AA" cells in this sort of application will fail due to old age before their energy is drained. I use a 4.5 volt "AA" pack (i.e. 3 "AAs" in series) for replacing a 3.6 volt CMOS battery. Although I have seen some computers using a 6-volt external battery pack to replace a 3.6 volt CMOS battery, this amount of voltage is too much, IMHO. Remember to set the jumpers on the motherboard so as to enable the external battery. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:29:39 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT...TCP/IP stack, where...? On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:2:55 +0800, J J Young wrote: - ------------snip--------- > I don't know if the M$ ULA states that the dialer component may only be used > with M$ > software. IE3 is worth keeping for testing pages and can cope with *some* Java > that > more recent Opera baulks at -- so I'm saying M$IE3 is worth having on a Win3.1x > machine. > Plus you get the dialer, which probably works without problems for 95% of users. > The > downside (compared to Trumpet) is the bigger download, but the M$ is free. If > that bothers > anyone, they could send Trumpet a donation. Jake .........I started this, so I will take this oportunity to sign off on it....thank you Jake for the IE d/l URL....I got it, but have not "unboxed" it yet..... Bernie.......Thank you for the Trumpet info....I will probably, sooner or later, go get that also......unless the trails I am following now give me the tools to write a TCP/IP Stack DLL myself..... Thanks to all the rest who have offered their info... ...............gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:43:27 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: The MOVE message feature, Arachne version 1.60 On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:38:22 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Hi Folks: > Hey, I want King Michael and the rest of you guys to know that I really > like the MOVE message feature in Arachne 1.60. > I tried out using this feature for the first time early this morning. > That is something really fabulous, the way my Arachne automagically > creates a new folder, complete with ikon and all, and moves the > message to the new folder, seemingly all in one step. > To accomplish the equivalent sort of thing with Windoze, you have to > do it in several steps, and you have to resort to the idiotic grab and > drag and drop routine. > Michael has discovered a much better way of doing it! Sam .....as you know, I think Michael has discovered a much better way of doing lots of things with this Arachne.....have you noticed that the folders in MOVE are "sticky" now.....they stay until you change them, which saves me lots of time and heavy manual labor....I don't have to move my finger around so much on my ALPSpad....<g> BTW....that MOVE has been available in Arachne since....hhmmmmnnn since at least the 1.50src....if some people would just upgrade in a timely manner...why..............<g> .............gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:27:18 +0000 From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:01:04 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Mark, > You wrote recently about troubles with your CMOS battery and that it > only measured 3.6V when you thought that it should have been 6V. > Proceed with caution here. There are some that run on 3.6V > batteries and also some that run on 3V. Is your battery marked 6V? Does > it have a part number? > Often, people replace a failed expensive lithium CMOS battery with a > string of 'AA' cells in a normal plastic multiple 'AA'-style holder. All > you have to do is to decide how many you need: 2, 3 or 4. In that way, > you don't end up paying through the nose to keep the CMOS alive. Since > CMOS technology only draws nanoamps when in standby, 'AA' cells will > work nicely. Usually, 'AA' cells in this sort of application fail > due to old age before their energy has been drained. > If you can report a battery part number, we may be able to decipher > the proper voltage for you. > Hope this helps! > Ron. Agree Mark, normal terminal volts on a single lithium cell would be about 3.4v to 3.6v no matter what age it is until it actually dies. Unfortunately, three nicads, will produce the same volts (1.2v each = 3.6v) if stacked three in series. Both Lithium and Nicads have a "reverse" bathtub curve on the volts versus lifetime graph, and retain terminal volts until the very end of the useful life. In the case of Lithium this is about ten years or so in a standby application such as holding up bios or memory info. For Nicads, it is anything from weeks to months, so there is probably NOT a nicad pack in your 'puter. If you can be methodical enough to note when you fit it, and check each 6 months or so, you could probably fit a pack made up using ordianry (good quality) alkaline cells, AA size, these have a lifetime shelf of about 3 years, but if Glenn's comment that a P150 lithium is $3.00 US, then probably the alkalines would be dearer! reverse bathtub curve= ________________________ \ \ | | | |____ dead! Regards Mel Arachne, the Internet Suite and Browser for DOS, supports tables, graphics, animations, forms, HTML 4.0 Transitional Pages and more. Visit Mel's UK Arachne Pages for details and FREE Download. Kick-start a 386/486, or use on a Pentium for superb browsing! http://www.arachne4dos.freeserve.co.uk e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bccscotland.freeserve.co.uk Web Pages of |British Caravanners Club, Scotland| http://www.euramcom.freeserve.co.uk Mel's Ham Radio Equivalents Pages http://www.webtheon.freeserve.co.uk Webtheon Internet Design ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:49:44 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:04:50 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: - -----------snip------- all snip <g> ...and we do not want to forget to "Load Default Values" from ROM again once we get our CMOS powered back up.....do we...? .......gregy <g g g> - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:21:31 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The bios source I'm interested, how can I get a copy? << If anybody is interested I have some serious CMOS utilities that can be run from a floppy. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:26:28 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Browser comparisons On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:30:25 +0100, Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen wrote: > By the way, can you confirm that v1.60 b1 is much faster than v1.50src, > even up to four times like someone wrote? I don't have the opportunity > to test and compare Arachne with Windows browsers, so I just don't know - > but I would like to... Hello, Hans; I seem to have missed your post and am quoting from Michael Dawley's reply. There was no noticeable speed difference between 1.50s.r.c. and 1.50b2. My posts of Jan 21, 22 compared 1.60b1 with 1.50b2, Opera and a very fast version of Netscape, 2.02. In all cases, except for local operations such as refresh and page up/dn, Arachne 1.60b1 was measurably, but not dramatically, faster. If you were to compare 1.60b1 with Netscape 4+ THEN you could say it is dramatically faster. <G> On local operations, 1.60b1 is measureably slower than 1.50b2 and MUCH slower than Netscape 2.02. If you want the details, just ask. I don't want to bore everyone by re-posting. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:30:21 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Stateside goodie purchases On Saturday, "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: ] try to make it work, and I couldn't even get their "about" page ] (approximately 14Kb) to download.......sheeesh..! any other ] ideas will be welcomed.... A while ago I was stuck on the 386DX40 whose comm ports where limited to 9600bps [8250 chip on COM1/2 connected to my external 33.6; my only internal modem is 2400bps <G>]. I found that downloading in the background was the fastest way to download something that would usually make arachne stop and stall. (Ctrl-Enter or Ctrl-Click) The funny thing was, a while later I acquired some network cards, and a 486 that was given to me I turned into an almost full-time linux box [problem is its too loud to be on 24/7 :-( ]. Anyway... accessing the internet through the LAN and IP_Masquerade was a lot faster! No sleeps at all, except the sites where netscape had worse ones. I had thought the 9600 would be better, since someone (Boanne??) tried reducing speed from 115200 to 19200 (IIRC) and said it was faster at the lower speed. Maybe its epppd letting us down? But on the 486 laptop that most of you would be aware I'm using right now, using 16550A UART there are few problems. [The 386 problem, I came to the conclusion that arachne was redrawing the screen, and took longer than expected, so couldn't check the (unbuffered) incoming data until it was too late and corrupted] - -- | .~. | Hoody has the hots for whats in the box with the dots! | /V\ | http://hoody.virtualave.net updated 14 Jan 2000 | // \\ | http://hoody.penguinpowered.com when I'm online | /( )\ | ICQ: five oh one seven five one seven oh | ^`~'^ | Carpe Aptenodytes! Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. | C607EUW | "We apologise for the inconvenience" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 01:31:15 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Faster than the speed of light [was Re: Re2: Secure web sites] I'm still catching up with reading all my mails, but I couldn't help myself.... :) On Friday, "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: ] There seems to be a vewry big diference in our experience with the ] speed of this list. ] Most times, my messages come right back to me in less than 30 seconds. ] That's right. 30 seconds. Normally it takes anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours for me. But that was back when I was using a redirector (which slowed things down). If I was to CC between survpc, arachne and nettamer lists, survpc would be straight away, arachne a little while later, and nettamer ages. Anyway... Looking in the headers it arrived here 14:24:41 Aust Eastern Summer Time (+1100). If my maths are right, it took minus 19 seconds to get here! So that means someone's clocks aren't accurate enough to time this like this. <G> Does it matter that I was about the 20th person who re-subscribed when the listserv kicked us all off? Since my POP3 and SMTP servers are located in different cities, I will CC this message to myself and check the time difference. ] Received: from ns.arachne.cz (unknown [212.24.129.58]) ] by mail.hotkey.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9932845AE ] for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:24:41 +1100 (EST) ] Received: (from mail@localhost) ] by ns.arachne.cz (8.9.3/8.8.7) id EAA29330 ] for arachne-list; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 04:25:43 +0100 - -- | .~. | Hoody has the hots for whats in the box with the dots! | /V\ | http://hoody.virtualave.net updated 14 Jan 2000 | // \\ | http://hoody.penguinpowered.com when I'm online | /( )\ | ICQ: five oh one seven five one seven oh | ^`~'^ | Carpe Aptenodytes! Do witches run spell checkers? | C607EUW | "We apologise for the inconvenience" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:53:08 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Long filenames howto ? On Friday, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: ] not read them in detail. Apparently in W98/95, there are aliases in 8.3 form ] in which the first x letters (6 *or* less) of the LFN are retained, followed ] by the tilde (~), then a number with the number incrementing each time in the ] event the first x letters already exist. FWIW I know of a registry hack that can get rid of the tilde's: "This is a stupidly long filename.txt" would normally be stored in the FAT as THISIS~1.TXT. With the addition is would be stored as THISISAS.TXT. A little bit better. :) It will resort to the tilde's to avoid duplicate filenames, however. The only problem is I don't remember exactly how to do it. I know it involves adding a new value. There's probably info on the web how to do it, or I could go searching through my old magazines...(Needs a cleanup anyway <G>) - -- | .~. | Hoody has the hots for whats in the box with the dots! | /V\ | http://hoody.virtualave.net updated 14 Jan 2000 | // \\ | http://hoody.penguinpowered.com when I'm online | /( )\ | ICQ: five oh one seven five one seven oh | ^`~'^ | Carpe Aptenodytes! Do you like me for my brain, or my BAUD? | C607EUW | "We apologise for the inconvenience" ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #974 *****************************
