arachne-digest Sunday, January 30 2000 Volume 01 : Number 975 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:13:15 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M$OE 5 is Arachne-compatible :-) On Monday, "Lars Wigrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: ] Sorry for using M$OE ;-) At least you're not a stupid user... You managed to turn HTML mail off. :) ] but I've just discovered that it is compatible with ] Arachne. I saved an message recieved with OE onto a diskette, and then ] successfully read it in Arachne. Likevise I saved an Arachne message onto a ] diskette, renamed it to *.EML (that's *.CNM in Arachne :-), and from "This ] Computer" Windows identified it as an "Outlook Express e-mail" file. Any file with the extension .EML will be called that. Try any extension that windows knows about: all .ht will be hyperterminal, all .doc will be WordPad or Microsoft Word. Even all .HTM files will be "Microsoft HTML Document version 4.0" [or similar] if you have installed IE4, or "Netscape Hypertext Document" if you have installed Netscape. This is just a registry thing. BTW, registry hacking is fun. I have added many great things to my right-click menus. :) ] So, it seems to be possible to move messages back and forth between those ] two. Just give it a proper extension. :-) Have you tried opening that .EML file yet? (Double click it... I bet it will say something like invalid format) - -- | .~. | Hoody has the hots for whats in the box with the dots! | /V\ | http://hoody.virtualave.net updated 14 Jan 2000 | // \\ | http://hoody.penguinpowered.com when I'm online | /( )\ | ICQ: five oh one seven five one seven oh | ^`~'^ | Carpe Aptenodytes! Do you know where your ancestors were and what they did? | C607EUW | "We apologise for the inconvenience" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:12:38 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Deleting files I've just been viewing stored webpages, then right-clicking and Del to delete 'em, but with no result, other than temporarily disappearing from the directory listing. The files were from both inside and outside of A's directory, and of a variety of extensions. I'll let you know if the Delete function returns, but cannot be sure it was working before with this version. Jake p.s. L D Best reported differing results rendering tables including <center> tags when reloading a page. I have now experienced this behavior when editing such pages -- it seemed that expected behavior was more likely when the table had exceeded a certain size. Perhaps this and the non-deleting are related and are to do with A's use of RAM? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:11:38 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:42:16 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > Hi Sam, > Sorry to contradict you but....... > Just 'cause it's 3.6v.... don't mean it has-to-be Ni-Cad. > The TL-5135 and TL-5186 are both 3.6v "lithium wafer cells". > http://baber.com/baber/products/computer_clock_batteries.htm > And this photo looks nothing like the Ni-Cad you describe. > http://www.baber.com/baber/gifs/laptopgifs/tl51.jpg > Learn sometin' new every day, don't we?<vbg> Yes, we sure do. I'll have to check out the URL. I have always had the understanding that it is an "immutable physical property" of a true lithium cell to characteristically have 3 volts. Perhaps the "lithium wafer cells" you speak of are not "true" lithium cells. I will check out the URLs now. OK, I just now came back on line and checked them out. I'm unable to tell if the battery looks like the one I described, because of the view angle, being either from the bottom or the top of the stack of cells. Sorry about my description in which I said "annular ripples around the circumference of the plastic tube". In this context the word "annular" could have been interpreted either as a "repetitive redundancy", or the context might have been confused with the concept of concentricity, as in "annular rings" seen in a cross-section of a tree or log. I knew what I meant, but now I know I didn't say it right. Even the best of us sometimes have problems along those lines. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:42:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Martwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery About eight years ago, I (as an engineer) wanted a lithium battery for an embedded CPU board I was designing. Not knowing much about them, I did a fair bit of research. At that time, it turned out that there were about six different varieties of "lith- ium batteries" being produced. All contained highly-toxic organic lithium compounds, and the voltages varied wildly. It is likely that some of these varieties no longer exist, but it is quite pos- sible that there is still more than one. As usual, caveat emptor! Ken Martwick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:20:00 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Resuming with text-based FTP client On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Steve - RH Linux User wrote: | Or Botton wrote: | | > I'm trying to download a very big file using the CLI FTP client | > that is availble as an APM for Arachne. | | I don't know what the differences between NCSA FTP and ARPANET FTP | are, but the latter has a command "reget" which goes like this: [snip] Or, I think you might be out of luck here, unless you can get it to work using TELNET. The CUTCP FTP does not appear to have the reget command, and neither does the WATTCP FTP client. Have you looked at KA9Q, or Kermit? I can't think of any others... - -- Gregor J Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston MA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:44:35 +0200 From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Resuming with text-based FTP client Gregor J Jones wrote: > > Or, I think you might be out of luck here, unless you can get it to work > using TELNET. The CUTCP FTP does not appear to have the reget command, and > neither does the WATTCP FTP client. Have you looked at KA9Q, or Kermit? I > can't think of any others... I know that these commands are not availble there. What I am asking, is how can I do it by using direct server commands, by using the Quote or Literal command. Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." - ----------------------------- http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:05:51 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Resuming with text-based FTP client On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:44:35 +0200, Or Botton wrote: > Gregor J Jones wrote: >> Or, I think you might be out of luck here, unless you can get it to work >> using TELNET. The CUTCP FTP does not appear to have the reget command, and >> neither does the WATTCP FTP client. Have you looked at KA9Q, or Kermit? I >> can't think of any others... > I know that these commands are not availble there. What I am asking, is > how > can I do it by using direct server commands, by using the Quote or > Literal command. Try sending the command 'remotehelp' This might show the command that particular ftp server will accept. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:23:26 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The bios source - -I'm interested, how can I get a copy? << If anybody is interested I have some serious CMOS utilities that can be << run from a floppy. >> Give me youm email address and I'll ZIP them to you. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 01:57:15 From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: shell game (#973) On 28 Jan 00, arachne-digest wrote: > From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: shell game > > Neil Parks wrote: > > > > In many cases, when Arachne on the home computer (the one with QEMM) shells > > out to DOS to run an external process, it displays the msg "Bad command or > > file name", but then it runs the pgm anyway. > > > Check my post re: SHELL to DOS > In MIME.cfg > file/dosshell.dgi |@call $e\\system\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e > Should be: > file/dosshell.dgi |@call $esystem\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e Tried that. Made no difference. > I haven't used this version enough to have seen the JPG problem and I just > checked the Hotlist Manager (both ways) and found no problem. I can't see > how it could be related to the above fix tho. As I said, this occurs only on one computer and not the other, and the MIME.CFG is the same on both. I wonder if it is related to the use of QEMM. - -- ...This msg brought to you by NEIL PARKS Beachwood, Ohio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.en.com/users/neparks/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:26:39 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: CMOS battery >> Just 'cause it's 3.6v.... don't mean it has-to-be Ni-Cad. > >> The TL-5135 and TL-5186 are both 3.6v "lithium wafer cells". >> http://baber.com/baber/products/computer_clock_batteries.htm > >Yes, we sure do. I'll have to check out the URL. I have always had >the understanding that it is an "immutable physical property" of a true >lithium cell to characteristically have 3 volts. Perhaps the "lithium >wafer cells" you speak of are not "true" lithium cells. I will check >out the URLs now. > My understanding of batteries is that the two chemicals are involved in an oxydation/reduction reaction (in other words, they exchange electrons, so one chemical is oxydised and the other one reduced. The electrons they exchange make a current). The voltage of the battery is a characteristic of the chemical reaction, so it just depends on which two chemicals are in the battery. The rechargeable Nickel-Cadmium battery in front of me looks like an AA battery, but it has a voltage of 1.2Volts, a characteristic of all NiCad batteries. The three small Ni-Cad that power a computer's CMOS add up to 1.2V*3 = 3.6V. So other chemicals could make 3.6V batteries - you just have to find an ox-red chemical couple that would produce an appropriate voltage. But if the "lithium cells" and "lithium wafer cells" produce a different voltage, then they rely on a different oxred couple. What's the other chemical in these two batteries? Charles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 05:56:59 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson) Subject: Re: shell game (#973) Neil Parks wrote: >> > >> > In many cases, when Arachne on the home computer (the one with QEMM) shells >> > out to DOS to run an external process, it displays the msg "Bad command or >> > file name", but then it runs the pgm anyway. >> > >> >As I said, this occurs only on one computer and not the other, and the >> >MIME.CFG is the same on both. I wonder if it is related to the use of >> >QEMM. > Hi Neil, I don't know if the "Bad command or file name" is related to QEMM or not. I do know that on my computer which uses 386MAX for memory management that I get an error message from the config.sys file which is an erroneous message. I once spent considerable time trying to figure out where it came from and then IIRC I found a note in the 386MAX docs saying to ignore it. However, I usually get the "Bad command or file name" message when I try to call a utility from a batch file and I don't have that utility on that computer. I suggest you check the batch files involved with "shelling" and see if you can find a command that the one computer doesn't recognise. Eric - -- __________ | Ayrx |__\_ Eric S. Emerson | :~_: ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] `~(*)~~~~(*)~' ````````````````````````` ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 January 2000 11:26:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:Dialer in ARCN16B1 Hi Christoph, > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:12:52 +0100 > From: "(null)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Dialer in ARCN16B1 > I've got a problem with the Dialer (Miniterm) in Arachne 1.6B1; I copied > my old arachne.cfg from my 1.5 version and started the dialer. > It connects after dialing the number, and then I press F7 as usual. But > at the next moment the connection is aborted. > What do I wrong? I have similar problem. Please, create a new arachne.cfg using the Arachne 1.6 PPP wizard, fill in the (O)ption forms and attempt to connect to your ISP again. The new Arachne has new variables in her arachne.cfg. Maybe, your problem will be solved in this way. In ay case, please, inform me about your result. Unfortunately, I can't create any connection with my provider anyway. And: I have problems with the BOOTP protocol, as a general rule. I can't understand it. Best regards, Csaba [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:08:16 -0800 From: Dion Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne with DRDOS and USA ISDN? Am I wasting my time to try to get this to work? I have tried UKA_PPP with not much success. I can get connected, but cannot get PPP to start nor Arachne to work. I can get ispap to (apparently) load and start its pppd but Arachne does not connect to it. Probably I am attempting too many things with too little knowledge. It seems like the various pieces all have their own universes and docs etc but there is no overall doc that says at a higher level what you need in a big .BAT file that starts everything you need. ;-) Anyway... if someone actually has got Arachne to work with DRDOS (7.02) plus Motorola Bitsurfer ISDN, I'd be most appreciative of a little info, like what config files you used, what ppp packet driver works, anything. Arachne looks like a great alternative browser and I'd like to give it a try. Thanks all for your listening! - -Dion (A Unix guy gone wrong.... ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:28:46 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne with DRDOS and USA ISDN? Dion, Here is the .BAT file I use to start and run ARACHNE: @echo off REM ARA.BAT BAT file to start arachne I: <--This is the drive Arachne is on. cd \arach%1 <--I have various directories for the different releases of Arachne, each named ARACH<ver no>. Typing "ARA 160" would go to directory for ver. 1.60b1 c:\razdaz\dazetune off <--This turns off my screen saver, "Razzle Dazzle." call arachne.bat <--Starts Arachne, returns to ARA.BAT after exiting Arachne. set myip= <| set remip= |> Clears environmental variables set netmask= |> not cleared by ARACHNE.BAT set peermru= <| c:\razdaz\dazetune on <--Turns screen saver back on keymap dos <--Resets my mouse (trackball) driver to emulate arrow keys. cls <--Clears the screen It's nothing very sophistocated. Suggestions: Do NOT modify ARACHNE.BAT. If anything needs changing, try to put it in the .BAT file that you use to start Arachne (I believe that is just called, A.BAT in 1.60b1). Post your ARACHNE.CFG (x-ing out your passwords) so that we may see how you have Arachne configured. Make sure that your modem is on COM1 or COM2. If not, I'm sure that others on the list will make suggestions on how to take care of the problem. If you are using a "Login" script, make sure that the hyphens "-" are removed from used and unused lines. Hope this helps. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA Dion Johnson wrote: >>Am I wasting my time to try to get this to work? I have tried UKA_PPP with not much success. I can get connected, but cannot get PPP to start nor Arachne to work. I can get ispap to (apparently) load and start its pppd but Arachne does not connect to it. Probably I am attempting too many things with too little knowledge. It seems like the various pieces all have their own universes and docs etc but there is no overall doc that says at a higher level what you need in a big .BAT file that starts everything you need. ;-) Anyway... if someone actually has got Arachne to work with DRDOS (7.02) plus Motorola Bitsurfer ISDN, I'd be most appreciative of a little info, like what config files you used, what ppp packet driver works, anything. Arachne looks like a great alternative browser and I'd like to give it a try. Thanks all for your listening! - -Dion (A Unix guy gone wrong.... )<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:06:21 From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: small java script prevents display Using Arachne 1.60 beta 1, I want to read my email on mailandnews.com . I go to the home page, enter my user name and password, and press the login button. Arachne fetches the page containing the index of new msgs, but displays only a blank screen. I press F4 to bring up the editor, and find in the HEAD area there are a few lines containing Java script. I delete those lines, and press the Save and View button. The page then displays perfectly. Same again when I want to read an individual msg. Blank screen, edit out short Java script (always within the HEAD area), and then page appears and looks good. Until such time as Arachne supports Javascript, should it not simply ignore anything from <script> to </script> ? Why should the presence of a script in the header prevent display of an otherwise Arachne-friendly page? - -- ...This msg brought to you by NEIL PARKS Beachwood, Ohio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.en.com/users/neparks/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #975 *****************************
