On Saturday, Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
] I am amazed that so many of you using the latest DOSs can get Arachne to run
] at all ! I say this because Arachne is a HOG for low memory and it seems very
] difficult to get any reasonable amount of low memory with DOS 6.2.
] I am used to having 670,784 bytes free with my regular system.
Wow. I think that just having 600k free RAM is pretty good.
] Initially, with everything possible loaded high (without the help of QEMM)
] I could only get 630,528 bytes free which was apparantly not enough for
] Arachne 1.60b1 because inbox.dgi would give me the "cannot make $IDX$cnm.idx"
] message. My altM popup said I had 127 [+] DOS kb.
I have 626,624 bytes free and I can always view mail. But then I
don't use insight to handle all my mail at once - usually only a
couple at a time; but once I did press "I" when I'd downloaded about
40 messages, no problems. And I still do things like
file:///c:/inet/mail/araclist/*.mes and have like 300+ messages there.
And I haven't even touched the MIME.CFG yet; using the default one
with 1.6b1.
] For those of you with a similar problem, I got more free memory by setting my
] stacks to 0,0 in config.sys. This gave me 633,552 bytes free and Arachne then
] was able to run Insight and make the index. I now have 130 [+] DOS kb.
I have 124[+] free.
] If anyone has more than 633,552 bytes free with DOS 6+, would you please share
] the tricks with the rest of us ? <G>
] I know I can get more with QEMM, but what can HIMEM.sys users do ?
I am running MS-DOS 6.22... There would probably be benefits using
DR-DOS (which I use in other computers I own) but "If it ain't broke,
why fix it?"
[I can immediately see I could remove POWER and IFSHLP since I haven't
started windows on this machine for weeks...but I don't care; its all
in the UMBs]
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Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total = Conventional + Upper Memory
-------- ---------------- ---------------- ----------------
MSDOS 18,877 (18K) 18,877 (18K) 0 (0K)
HIMEM 1,168 (1K) 1,168 (1K) 0 (0K)
EMM386 4,144 (4K) 4,144 (4K) 0 (0K)
COMMAND 4,272 (4K) 4,272 (4K) 0 (0K)
CTMOUSE 6,464 (6K) 0 (0K) 6,464 (6K)
ANSI 4,208 (4K) 0 (0K) 4,208 (4K)
POWER 4,640 (5K) 0 (0K) 4,640 (5K)
IFSHLP 3,936 (4K) 0 (0K) 3,936 (4K)
SMARTDRV 26,720 (26K) 0 (0K) 26,720 (26K)
SHARE 16,944 (17K) 0 (0K) 16,944 (17K)
DOSKEY 4,144 (4K) 0 (0K) 4,144 (4K)
EPPPD 70,160 (69K) 0 (0K) 70,160 (69K)
Free 680,736 (665K) 626,624 (612K) 54,112 (53K)
Memory Summary:
Type of Memory Total = Used + Free
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Conventional 655,360 28,736 626,624
Upper 191,328 137,216 54,112
Reserved 393,216 393,216 0
Extended (XMS) 2,954,400 746,656 2,207,744
---------------- ---------- ---------- ----------
Total memory 4,194,304 1,305,824 2,888,480
Total under 1 MB 846,688 165,952 680,736
Largest executable program size 626,528 (612K)
Largest free upper memory block 33,120 (32K)
MS-DOS is resident in the high memory area.
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AFAIK you can't get much more conventional memory free without using
the likes of QEMM. But I've been using Arachne (1.5src and now 1.6b1)
for quite a while now like this, and had few problems.
[BTW That Reserved section is mostly PCMCIA stuff, which If I don't
reserve even a DOS prompt by itself can hang the system]
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