arachne-digest Tuesday, February 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 985 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:35:02 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Connection script John wrote: >I successfully connected with my own ISP(wi.net), but ran into a problem with the >ISP (newnorth.net) that covers my folks, who will be the ultimate users of the >386. This is 1.50 src. Appreciate any help, Arachnites. John John, I had the same problems on all versions of Arachne up to 1.60b1 Perhaps you can try it instead? The sollutions that Clarence and Glenn has written about have helped others but not me - but I think I'm rather lonely in getting it to work in 1.60b1 and not in the previous versions. I must say that the ISP you're trying to connect with seems much better on support then the ones I've used (or helped people get connect with). //Bernie http://hem.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:14:30 +0000 From: Casper Gielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: C programs and 2038 This is a known problem that affects most computer system including all Unices. A solution is to go 64 bit, something that is expected to happen in the next decade. Older machines will be a lot of trouble in 2035-2038. I hope, but do not expect, this will be solved in time. Solving it on other machines is IMHO harder than Y2K but doable. - -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- I'm a guy too. Jerry Springer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:01:13 +0000 From: Casper Gielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: C programs and 2038 "Samuel W. Heywood" wrote: > > IMHO, it is premature to worry about this problem at the present time. > For all we know, before the next 38 years would have passed us by, most all > current computers and programming languages and operating systems might > have become so obsolete as to be considered mere curiosities in museums > of technology. The only people still actually using such technology would > consist only of a small group of old fools and patriarchs like us. By the > time that day comes around, we might have become recognized only as > interesting subjects for interviews by the History Channel, and deserving of > an occasional passing mention on Time Lab 2000. This is exactly what programmers said 40 years ago, causing the millenium bug. Historie repeats... - -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- I'm a guy too. Jerry Springer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:05:06 +0000 From: Casper Gielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: C programs and 2038 Richard Menedetter wrote: > > AND if you recompile using a 64 bit intgere instead of 32 bits, you'll have > MUUUUUUUUUUCH time to use the software. > Indeed, longer then the estimated lifetime of the Universe. Should be pretty safe. Beware, porting to 64 bits is a much more difficult than just recompiling. I don't know details but the Linux kernel people are currently discussing this problem and haven't found an easy solution yet. > But to be absolutely honest I doupt that any program developed now will be > used in 30 years ! Ask your bank how old their software is. It's either less than 5 years (refreshed because of Y2K) or over 30 years old... - -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- I'm a guy too. Jerry Springer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:30:59 +0000 From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Modem Nodem! Hi guys 'n gals, New (second hand, new to me!) 'puter today! 233, big Hard Drive 2.1G lots of room for software, fast on the html and so on.. It's got a Rockwell internal modem of some kind. Arachne detects it on com1, IRQ4 and inputs info into ppp dialler ok. When asked to dial, Arachne says it can't initialize the modem. Any ideas anyone? The machine dials in on IE ok. How can I find out if this modem is a windows crippleware item and what com port it is actually on so as to confirm if Arachne is identifying it correctly in the ppp wizard? Oh, and it should be a fast modem, 56k plus fax and all that garbage according to the machine specifications. Regards Mel Arachne, the Internet Suite and Browser for DOS, supports tables, graphics, animations, forms, HTML 4.0 Transitional Pages and more. Visit Mel's UK Arachne Pages for details and FREE Download. Kick-start a 386/486, or use on a Pentium for superb browsing! http://www.arachne4dos.freeserve.co.uk e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bccscotland.freeserve.co.uk Web Pages of |British Caravanners Club, Scotland| http://www.euramcom.freeserve.co.uk Mel's Ham Radio Equivalents Pages http://www.webtheon.freeserve.co.uk Webtheon Internet Design ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 02:59:10 +0000 From: "Flip ter Biecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] succeeded Thanks for all kind replies to my question about those portable document files. After finding the .txt result from pdf2txt a bit rough indeed (I attached both big .pdf's to an empty message, opened the result in write, and had to minimize both font size and margins, in order to get the word wrap correct on 800x600 screen resolution), I installed a win3x version from adobe.com (Why is a program bigger in download, than after installation? Then again, happy with my 57600 baud) I've been searching for a Dos .pdf reader, but there seems to be no such at adobe.com. ("Portable", they call it, so maybe if we all request, a netdos reader could be worthwhile. But it's far from easy, sending e-mail from the adobe pages to their staff (stupid forms, not one address...)) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:53:49 -0600 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cannot make $IDX$cnm.idx Compudyne 486DX4-100 Win 98 Arachne 1.60 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arachne List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Cannot make $IDX$cnm.idx > Hello All; > > I have been playing with my "testbed" system - a new (for me) 90Mhz Pentium > with 16 Mb Ram running DOS 6.2. I will continue to use my 33Mhz '486 for all > normal activities just so I don't get the mistaken idea that Fatware is fast > enough. Clarence, 90 Mhz Pentium: It's addictive. I've got 33 Mhz 486's all around me, and I wind up playing with the fast ones<g>. I'll use your stacks 0,0 idea. I used to get 148 with Arachne 1.50, now get 127, but still runs well. I put Win 98 on this box, but had 6.22 to start with, so I get two sets of configurations, and when I F-8 at startup, I get my old autoexec.bat and config.sys. Win 98 calls them config.old and autoexec.old, and the computer runs them like Win 98 isn't there at all. Had to delete all of Win 3.1 first, however to get it to do that. Arachne sets up in 5-10 minutes, Win 98 in several hours if you then download MSIE 5, and then its slower to boot up than Arachne, and gets the pages about the same speedwise. Arachne just can't get pages with some kinds of Javascript, gets blank pages. On all my sites with Javascript, Arachne gets the page ok, and everything works, except the Javascript, which Arachne ignores. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 22:24:34 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modem Nodem! On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:30:59 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > Hi guys 'n gals, > New (second hand, new to me!) 'puter today! 233, big Hard Drive 2.1G > lots of room for software, fast on the html and so on.. > It's got a Rockwell internal modem of some kind. Arachne detects it on > com1, IRQ4 and inputs info into ppp dialler ok. When asked to dial, > Arachne says it can't initialize the modem. Any ideas anyone? > The machine dials in on IE ok. How can I find out if this modem is a > windows crippleware item and what com port it is actually on so as to > confirm if Arachne is identifying it correctly in the ppp wizard? > Oh, and it should be a fast modem, 56k plus fax and all that garbage > according to the machine specifications. Hi Mel, I would suggest to you that you enter a regular terminal program. Then enter the following AT command: "ati3", without the quotations. This command will report the firmware revision, model, and interface type. If in the resulting report you find "rpi" anywhere in the string, then you have an RPI modem and I send my condolences. RPI stands for Rockwell Proprietary Interface. To find out more about what you don't want to hear, go here: http://www.driverzone.com/drivers/rockwell/rpi/index.html Sorry about that. Better luck next time! Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:34:29 -0600 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Installation problem: memory allocation error, stack overflow This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BF71B3.1D4AF6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Compudyne 486DX4-100 Win 98 Arachne 1.60 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bernd Martin=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:56 AM Subject: Installation problem: memory allocation error, stack overflow Again I have tried to install Arachne using the advice I have got = from this mailing list. Thanks for the help. I have come a little bit = further.=20 Config.sys DEVICE=3DC:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF DEVICE=3DC:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS HIGHSCAN BUFFERS=3D20,0 FILES=3D60 DOS=3Dhigh,UMB LASTDRIVE=3DE FCBS=3D4,0 stacks=3D20,512 rem DEVICEHIGH=3DC:\DOS\SETVER.EXE Try stacks 0,0 This may not be all of your problem, but using 0,0 was mentioned on the list(Clarence Verge) as being a useful setting to get about 3 extra KB for Arachne. Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BF71B3.1D4AF6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Compudyne 486DX4-100 Win 98<BR>Arachne 1.60</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" = [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Bernd=20 Martin</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"=20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 07, 2000 = 10:56=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Installation problem: = memory=20 allocation error, stack overflow</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2> Again I have tried=20 to install Arachne using the advice I have got from this mailing list. = Thanks=20 for the help. I have come a little bit further. </FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Config.sys</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DEVICE=3DC:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS = /TESTMEM:OFF<BR>DEVICE=3DC:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS=20 = HIGHSCAN<BR>BUFFERS=3D20,0<BR>FILES=3D60<BR>DOS=3Dhigh,UMB<BR>LASTDRIVE=3D= E<BR>FCBS=3D4,0<BR>stacks=3D20,512<BR>rem=20 DEVICEHIGH=3DC:\DOS\SETVER.EXE<BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try stacks 0,0</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This may not be all of your problem, = but using=20 0,0</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>was mentioned on the list(Clarence = Verge) as=20 being</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a useful setting to get about 3 extra = KB for=20 Arachne.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michael L. Dawley</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Pearl,=20 Mississippi</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BF71B3.1D4AF6C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:55:54 -0600 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPP link is down Compudyne 486DX4-100 Win 98 Arachne 1.60 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Cotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: Re: PPP link is down > Michael, > > No breakthroughs yet! > > Attached is the memory setup on the machine at this moment. I've > disabled the mouse and smartdrv for maximum memory. Jack, I think Arachne needs smartdrv. Also, check to see if there is enough for a 70K epppd when smartdrv and the mouse are all loaded high. If not you could place the mouse in conventional memory, and epppd and smartdrv in high mem. Hope that helps some. Michael L.Dawley Pearl, Mississippi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 23:09:10 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modem Nodem! > On Mon, 07 Feb 2000 23:30:59 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > Hi guys 'n gals, > New (second hand, new to me!) 'puter today! 233, big Hard Drive 2.1G > lots of room for software, fast on the html and so on.. > It's got a Rockwell internal modem of some kind. Arachne detects it on > com1, IRQ4 and inputs info into ppp dialler ok. When asked to dial, > Arachne says it can't initialize the modem. Any ideas anyone? > The machine dials in on IE ok. How can I find out if this modem is a > windows crippleware item and what com port it is actually on so as to > confirm if Arachne is identifying it correctly in the ppp wizard? > Oh, and it should be a fast modem, 56k plus fax and all that garbage > according to the machine specifications. Most systems will use COM1 for the mouse and COM2 for the modem. You might want to change Arachne's settings to COM2 and see what happens. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 07:52:30 +0200 From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modem Nodem! Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > New (second hand, new to me!) 'puter today! 233, big Hard Drive 2.1G > lots of room for software, fast on the html and so on.. Congrats! > It's got a Rockwell internal modem of some kind. Arachne detects it on > com1, IRQ4 and inputs info into ppp dialler ok. When asked to dial, > Arachne says it can't initialize the modem. Any ideas anyone? Sounds like you dont have the correct initilization string. I guess that the platform you have on it now is Windows 9x? (I dont know what else can cause a modem to appear on a COM without it being actually there.). Here's how to extract the data from Windows: Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager - -> Modem You should either see "General Modem" or the brandname of your modem. double-click it. Choose the "modem" tab. You should see the (real?) port of the modem in there. Now, for the IRQ: Go back to the Device Manager menu. On the top of the device list, there should be the option "Computer". Double-click it. You will receive a list of "resources" and where they are being used at. Choose "Interrupt Request (IRQ)" (it should be chosen as default). There, look for the IRQ that is used with the COM that your modem is using. Thats it! If its the same settings, or if its diffrant settings but Arachne still doesnt work even after using these settings, then there are 3 options: 1)Did you tried to use it without Windows on the background? Try if you didnt. 2)WinModems should work on DOS if Windows is running in the background. If you still cant get it to work from a DOS box, its another problem. (or its a really low-quality winmodem.) 3)You dont have the right initilization string. :) Either try to get it from the book, or maybe that dialer that IE is using got it somewhere... (though I heard that IE is so user friendly, that it doesnt let you do any _real_ setup. like init strings. <sigh>) Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." - ----------------------------- http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 00:33:51 +-0100XYZ(nWxst) From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Good command or file name I have discovered the source of the "bad command or file name". It was not QEMM at all, but ARACHNE.BAT . ARACHNE.BAT contains the following 2 lines: %TEMP%\$roura$.bat if exist %TEMP%$roura$.bat %TEMP%$roura$.bat I amended the first line: if exist %TEMP%\$roura$.bat %TEMP%\$roura$.bat if exist %TEMP%$roura$.bat %TEMP%$roura$.bat At work, where I don't see "b c or f n", my TEMP variable points to C:\TEMP . So the original first line above is valid, because it evaluates to C:\TEMP\$roura$.bat . But at home where I was getting the odd effect, my TEMP is D:\ . So ARACHNE.BAT was trying to call D:\\$roura$.bat on the first line. That generated the error, but then the second line called on D:\$roura$.bat , which ran correctly. Making the first line conditional, as the second one was to begin with, solved the problem. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:05:50 -0600 From: "Jack Cotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Modem Nodem! The modem initialization string that Win95 is using can be found in the Registry typing in regedit on the "Run" line. Then open HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Current Control Set\Services\Class\Modem\000x\Init where x=0,1,2 etc. depending on how many modems have been set up on the machine. Be careful when you are in regedit. You can disable the OS easily. Another way to get the data on the modem is to click the modems icon in control panel, Select the Diagnostics Tab, Highlight the Com Port shown for the modem and then click the radio button More Info.... In a few seconds you will get a complete listing of the resources for the modem and the results of a series of quires that Win95 transmits to the modem. With a 56k modem I'm pretty sure it will identify itself. Jack - ----- Original Message ----- From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 11:52 PM Subject: Re: Modem Nodem! > Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > > > New (second hand, new to me!) 'puter today! 233, big Hard Drive 2.1G > > lots of room for software, fast on the html and so on.. > > Congrats! > > > It's got a Rockwell internal modem of some kind. Arachne detects it on > > com1, IRQ4 and inputs info into ppp dialler ok. When asked to dial, > > Arachne says it can't initialize the modem. Any ideas anyone? > > Sounds like you dont have the correct initilization string. > I guess that the platform you have on it now is Windows 9x? > (I dont know what else can cause a modem to appear on a COM without > it being actually there.). > > Here's how to extract the data from Windows: > Start -> Settings -> Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager > -> Modem > > You should either see "General Modem" or the brandname of your modem. > double-click it. Choose the "modem" tab. You should see the (real?) > port of the modem in there. Now, for the IRQ: > Go back to the Device Manager menu. On the top of the device list, > there should be the option "Computer". Double-click it. You will > receive a list of "resources" and where they are being used at. > Choose "Interrupt Request (IRQ)" (it should be chosen as default). > There, look for the IRQ that is used with the COM that your modem > is using. > > Thats it! > > If its the same settings, or if its diffrant settings but Arachne > still doesnt work even after using these settings, then there are > 3 options: 1)Did you tried to use it without Windows on the background? > Try if you didnt. 2)WinModems should work on DOS if Windows is running > in the background. If you still cant get it to work from a DOS box, > its another problem. (or its a really low-quality winmodem.) > 3)You dont have the right initilization string. :) > Either try to get it from the book, or maybe that dialer that IE > is using got it somewhere... (though I heard that IE is so user > friendly, that it doesnt let you do any _real_ setup. like init > strings. <sigh>) > > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." > ----------------------------- > http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 04:49:19 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: "My Computer" bug I remember there is a console mode in Win 95/98. UKA_PPP has an addition for Win 95/98 console mode, though I use the DOS version. Also, there is a DOS program supposed to run Win 95/98 console programs but not the much more numerous GUI programs. Thomas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 04:49:22 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: whatis .pdf In addition to Adobe Acrobat Reader, there is Ghostscript, said to read .PDF. http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/get600.html But I don't know what OSes are supported. I haven't browsed this URL yet, was waiting until I got out of DOS. Thomas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 17:38:12 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: something MUST be done I don't mind beta testing. Usually I can cover myself well enough so if something blows up I still have a handle on it. But today, when InSight lost a few pieces of important mail when I hit R after getting rid of unwanted mail, I got pixxed off. I got even more pixxed off when I went to Norton Unerase, recovered a number of files, and then discovered that "mail" had no subject, and the files recovered [shown as a *.cmn file in FAT or wherever] might have once been mail, but instead were conglomerations of any number of loose strings that Arachne left lying around on my HDD. Something *MUST* be done about the damn strings that "clear Cache" leaves behind! They pollute everything else on the HDD, and that shouldn't be! Since I couldn't recover most of the files, I'm hoping my pop3 log is complete. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:10:45 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Why are there tmp files in my main Arachne directory? I have TEMP set to r:\temp\ ... I even have TMP set to r:\temp\ ... So why do I find textarea.tmp and 4 or 5 other *.tmp files sitting on my HDD? Also, big warning for those who spend hours finding links: At first it looks like Hotlist.mgr was working far better than ever before. So I trusted it again today, to properly allocate the new links collected [which always appear at the bottom of the old list] to the correct areas. Instead I lost over 20 hours worth of blood, sweat and tears; all the new links disappeared. :< l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #985 *****************************
