arachne-digest Friday, February 11 2000 Volume 01 : Number 989 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:49:39 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Insight, mail and things. Edenyard wrote: > > Please can someone shed some light on this rather fundamental > question? The 'address book' feature in Arachne V1.6 is useful, but how > does one get a 'real' name to show when sending a message? For example, > I can address a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but how do I get it > to say something like Joe Bloggs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or whatever > format it usually shows up in on the index? Hi Ron; When you save a link or an address, which is just a link, as long as you have not disabled the function in Arachne.cfg you will be given the opportunity to edit something that LOOKS like the link. Go ahead. It is NOT the link, it is just the tag that will show in your address book or Hotlist. If you look at the address list with a text editor (or even F4) you will see it composed of seemingly duplicate entries, one for action and one for show. If what you want is to change the actual email address to show the persons' name in the To: window, I think you can just edit the first entry of the pair mentioned above and add the name in quotes. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:42:57 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Experimental release of new hotlist manager You can try to download new experimental beta (or rather alpha-) version of Vitex's new Hotlist manager from Arachhne Download Page (as APM). Section "Development, beta versions". Final version will look differently, both user interface and design of hotlist will change. But [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks you to test new hotlist manager and write him what do you think. - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ (homepage of Arachne, www browser for DOS & Linux) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:17:20 +0100 (CET) From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 1.60 in VGA mode ! I just found out that my 1.60 beta release doesn't show images in 16 color VGA modes! It is stupid little bug which can be fixed by manualy editing arachne.pck and changing the first string in file to just "VGA" instead of "VGA.something". There is really urgent need for 1.60 beta 2 ... - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ (homepage of Arachne, www browser for DOS & Linux) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:33:53 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hotmail.com probs Hoody wrote: >BTW, If you have a spare domain, you can make your own webbased email >system for free! :) I have 'registered' hoody.go.cc. I wonder if I can >use that? <G> >[I'm talking www.bigmailbox.com - www.espn.com.hk uses this] starwarsemail.com seems much cooler ;) (and also udner bigmailbox.com) My adress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I rarely read any of the few mails that drop by - espacially since noone knew about this adress before know (still I've recieved some mails, mostly ads from other SW sites). BTW: Does anyone here have "George Lucas in Love"? Or know of a way to download it from http://www.mediatrip.com/per/Short_Films/George_Lucas_In_Love.html (Any ideas on how I'll be able to get that .ra file as well is of interest) BTW2: And moving up the "cooler ladder" you can mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as of today :) (Thanks again Michael!) And Hoody I think you were the one that said I should change my signature... //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:37:32 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1.60 in VGA mode ! Michael wrote: >I just found out that my 1.60 beta release doesn't show images in 16 color >VGA modes! It is stupid little bug which can be fixed by manualy editing >arachne.pck and changing the first string in file to just "VGA" instead of >"VGA.something". There is really urgent need for 1.60 beta 2 ... So now it might work under NT 4 again? (16 colours was the only option that works for me at uni.) An old arachne.pck should be good enough should it not? (Hmm... I see my result dropping on the test on monday for each hour I sit infront of a computer). //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:37:03 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > Thanks very much Mike. > ftp://ftp.foolabs.com:21/pub/xpdf/xpdf-0.90-dos.zip > might work as a PDF veiwer "plug-in" for Arachne. Hi Glenn, Mike; If I may comment here, I have downloaded the above and it is my opinion that by itself, it performs NO useful functions in DOS. Aside from the annoying 12+ character directory name the author wants, it has been written for "X" windows and requires a LOT of support the average DOS user does not have. Even when trying the seemingly simple pdf to text converter it wanted me to download a DPMI. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:48:16 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Is this a bug ? Hello Michael, All; I thought I had the time to take a look at Vitex's new Hotlist Manager so I went to the Arachne Download page and selected it. After downloading, the status line said processing blablabla... and then it started downloading again - so I moved the cursor off the link and when it finished downloading it said processing blablabla... again and then downloaded again. I hit ESC while it said processing the fourth time and checked the APMs. No Hotlist anything. Tried the Hotlist manager. Seemed the same as before. Trouble with this GUI crap is you never know what is going to happen until it happens. And it seems (to me anyway) it's always something different. Not enough psychic energy this time I guess. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:46:00 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Is this a bug ? Hi Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CV> I thought I had the time to take a look at Vitex's new Hotlist Manager CV> so I went to the Arachne Download page and selected it. I have downloaded and installed it, and everything went really smooth. I like it. (Although I'm sure, that some will cry that it is to 'bloated' and has too many functions) CV> After downloading, the status line said processing blablabla... and CV> then it started downloading again - so I moved the cursor off the CV> link and when it finished downloading it said processing blablabla... CV> again and then downloaded again. Hmm .. interesting, I can't imagine what causes this for you ... I have to admit, that I haven't had the time to test it very much ... (But I hope that I'll find time for that soon) CV> - Clarence Verge CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Bad luck is being run over by the welcome wagon <=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:48:01 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPP Up! On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:43:30 +0000, Jack Cotter wrote: Michael Dawley Would you believe that I'm sending this from the infamous Deskpro 590! I'm still working on it, but when I use the diagnostic version EPPPDD and turn on the debug option the packed driver will hang in there. This is not a solution, but I think it points the way. Klaus Hameyer If you are reading the mail, maybe there's hope after all! Jack (Michael Dawley wrote: Jack, Good work! When you have time, send me some details. Also, where do you get epppdd? I just have the epppd that comes with Netdial, and also the one that comes with Arachne. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi Jack Cotter wrote: <snip> EPPPDD comes with the dospppd distribution available at Citilink. I've attached a link (don't know how to paste into the Arachne mail yet!). The pppd.man is helpful. [Attached file: link.txt] (the link:) http://www.citilink.com/~kae/faq/connecting/dos/ppp.html Jack, I went there, got the file, unzipped it, and copied the epppdd.exe to my c:\netdial directory. Then I changed my aracdial.bat file to show epppdd instead of epppd Worked perfectly the first time! Earlier, I had my epppd hang up a short while, and I hit Esc and it took off. So much for epppd. I'm going with epppdd however, since both you and I have had success with it on these Compaq's. Glad I could help, and Thank you for the epppdd link! Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi it worked right off, etc. -- Compaq Deskpro 575 -- - -- Using Netdial 1.3 with Arachne 1.60 -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:04:01 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPP Up! Jack Cotter, How do you turn on the debug feature in epppdd.exe? Not that I need it, because it's working perfectly. Also, I have loaded epppdd high, and notice that it is 74K. I have plenty of room there, since I have no CDROM drivers, etc. on this Compaq, and have 35K left over when connected with epppdd. My conventional free memory for arachne is 615K which is the same as before, and not changed. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi -- Compaq Deskpro 575 -- - -- Using Netdial 1.3 with Arachne 1.60 -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:25:32 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is this a bug ? The D/L and install of hotlist.apm also went fine for me. I tried the new hotlist manager. It works fine. Some nice features. (import file, rename category, move, etc...etc..) But I must say, I _thought_ the one included with 1.60b1 was "ugly". I was wrong. IMHO, This one gives a whole new meaning to the word "UGLY".<g> I'll stay with..... F4, make changes, F2. On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 01:46:00 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi > Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CV> I thought I had the time to take a look at Vitex's new Hotlist Manager > CV> so I went to the Arachne Download page and selected it. > I have downloaded and installed it, and everything went really smooth. > I like it. > (Although I'm sure, that some will cry that it is to 'bloated' and has too > many functions) > CV> After downloading, the status line said processing blablabla... and > CV> then it started downloading again - so I moved the cursor off the > CV> link and when it finished downloading it said processing blablabla... > CV> again and then downloaded again. > Hmm .. interesting, I can't imagine what causes this for you ... > I have to admit, that I haven't had the time to test it very much ... > (But I hope that I'll find time for that soon) > CV> - Clarence Verge > CU, Ricsi > -- > Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} > -=> Bad luck is being run over by the welcome wagon <=- - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:33:26 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Insight, mail and things. On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:30:30 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please can someone shed some light on this rather fundamental > question? The 'address book' feature in Arachne V1.6 is useful, but how > does one get a 'real' name to show when sending a message? For example, > I can address a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but how do I get it > to say something like Joe Bloggs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or whatever > format it usually shows up in on the index? > Any ideas very welcome! > Ron. Like this... "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:23:04 -0600 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is this a bug ? On 10 Feb 00 at 18:48, Clarence Verge wrote: >>Hello Michael, All; >> >>I thought I had the time to take a look at Vitex's new Hotlist Manager so >>I went to the Arachne Download page and selected it. >> >>After downloading, the status line said processing blablabla... and then >>it started downloading again - so I moved the cursor off the link and >>when it finished downloading it said processing blablabla... again and >>then downloaded again. >> >>I hit ESC while it said processing the fourth time and checked the APMs. >>No Hotlist anything. Tried the Hotlist manager. Seemed the same as before. >> >>Trouble with this GUI crap is you never know what is going to happen until >>it happens. And it seems (to me anyway) it's always something different. >> >>Not enough psychic energy this time I guess. Sorry you had so much trouble. I downloaded and installed without problem. I did backup hotlist.htm before downloading the APM though. My initial impression is that I like it, though I have not actually used it to edit my hotlist. Of course if it screws up my hotlist, all bets are off! I looked in the backup directory and there was nothing there, so I guess I have to do another install to get back the original hotlist manager. I thought the APM's were supposed to backup whatever they replace in that backup directory in case things go awry. Regards, Dale Mentzer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:21:42 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is this a bug ? Dale Mentzer wrote: > > On 10 Feb 00 at 18:48, Clarence Verge wrote: > >> > >>Not enough psychic energy this time I guess. > > Sorry you had so much trouble. I downloaded and installed without > problem. I did backup hotlist.htm before downloading the APM though. > My initial impression is that I like it, though I have not actually > used it to edit my hotlist. Of course if it screws up my hotlist, all > bets are off! I looked in the backup directory and there was nothing > there, so I guess I have to do another install to get back the > original hotlist manager. I thought the APM's were supposed to backup > whatever they replace in that backup directory in case things go awry. Um, yeah. Another example of not getting quite what you expected. <G> Hi Dale, Glenn, Richard; It seems you guys have better karma. Just so I can put some finger on it, I'll assume you were all using 800x600 and a mouse and maybe you filled in the blanks on the download page ? It just seems silly, but I will try the above combination and see if I get anything. What else could there be ?? - ------------------------ Nope. That's not enough to make it work. I did all the above including respectfully signing in and the only difference this time is the download hung for about 10 sec @ 49%. Then it went to "Processing application /x Arachne..... and then to Copyright notice and then Connecting to home.arachne.cz and then downloading file again with no operator intervention. I hit ESC while processing the second time. I had 131Kb [+] DOS memory and when I checked the cache the biggest file in it was 9979 bytes. The biggest file in TEMP was 9295 bytes and there was, of course, nothing in DOWNLOAD. This was using my "testbed" machine P90 with 16 Megs and DOS 6.2 using Himem for memory management and a mostly unmodified (just slightly fixed) out-of-the-box Arachne install . Let's see if I got this part right: I initially cleared my cache and went to home.arachne.cz, selected the "go to the download page link", filled in the form, scrolled down the page to APMs and gently put the mouse thingy on "HOTLSMAN.APM" and pushed the button. Any difference so far ? Here is where my past deeds come back to haunt me I guess. <fg> - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 4:16:10 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GNU live video system? On 09/02/00 Or wrote: >Is there, anywhere, a live video protocol/system that is open-source >or etleast not heavily protected by patents? > >All I know of is Video Live (which was squashed by Real), Real video, >and the dreaded Windows Media. What else? > > > Or Botton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." >----------------------------- >http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ The following article arrived at a BB discussing wunderstock GEO Interactive Media (a company based in WinterKnight's homeland, involved in "Emblaze" video without plugins, also used for Web-radio). I'd be extremely miffed if GEO suddenly took a plunge! Jake <quote> Reverse engineering could threaten RealNetworks, others By Paul Festa Staff Writer, CNET News.com February 2, 2000, 1:10 p.m. PT While RealNetworks, Microsoft and other corporations battle for control of the streaming media market, efforts to provide open source alternatives to streaming media products are cropping up from groups ranging from lone university students to Internet behemoth CMGI. The products, largely developed under open source rules that make the end product available for use under a free, public license, have the potential to throw a monkey wrench into corporate streaming plans much the way the open source Linux platform has threatened Microsoft's grip on the market for computer operating systems. Groups working on free versions of streaming media products like those for sale by RealNetworks and others include Free-expression.org, Xiph.org and Icecast, which was acquired by CMGI last month. These programmers defend their efforts as ways to break a corporate stranglehold on Internet media. "We're assuming people want to be able to create their own audio and video expression without being obligated to any particular organization," said Lynn Winebarger, a graduate student in math and computer science at Indiana University who is the driving force behind Free-expression.org. "That's what we're planning on providing. That's what a general public license is all about. It takes away the power of one individual or company to govern what happens with that code." Free-expression.org's goals are to provide a full battery of streaming media tools, including the server, the client and codecs, which are used to encode, decode, compress and decompress data. Winebarger's objective is to make the product function with all media formats, including Microsoft's and RealNetworks'. "What I want to do is create a more comprehensive system where you don't really have a split between server, client and encoder," Winebarger said. "It would be one interactive system where you can load any of those pieces and put them together with a scripting language." Winebarger, who launched Free-expression.org last spring, is still at work on a decompiler to unravel RealNetworks' software and begin the process of reverse engineering it. This tactic, which treads on uncertain legal ground, may have dissuaded other developers from signing on to his cause. "I think we scared people off with the fact that I'm perfectly willing to be sued by RealNetworks if that's what it takes to defend my civil liberties," he said. Citing his advantage as a student with few assets, he said he is unafraid of such a lawsuit. "Suing me is like trying to get blood from a turnip. But other developers with more resources are reluctant to get involved." RealNetworks did not return phone calls requesting comment. When properly executed, reverse engineering allows hardware and software developers to replicate existing products without running afoul of intellectual property laws. The practice most famously goes back to Compaq's successful cloning of IBM's personal computing technology in the early 1980s, which blew open the doors to competition in the desktop PC market. Although reverse engineering is legal, developers must meet strict requirements to show they did not directly copy the works in question, but that they independently created the code from general specifications distilled from the original work. Reverse engineering does not allow replication of patented works, however. According to a recent SEC filing, RealNetworks has nine patents relating to its streaming and other technologies, with another 11 patent applications pending. Further along toward its goals, but also wary of legal consequences, is Icecast, founded in January 1999 with the goal of providing an open source audio streaming server. Icecast plays MP3 content; its component LiveIce converts that content into streaming audio. The project began as a free, open source version of the Shoutcast server, an MP3 streaming server now owned by America Online. "There might be some legal argument that Icecast copied the (Shoutcast) protocol," wrote Scott Manley, an early participant in the project, in an email interview. "But I don't imagine that would be worth pursuing. And...it could be argued that I was doing this first." Manley said that patents pose the biggest hurdle for open source streaming projects. "Free streaming has big problems with patents," wrote Manley. "MP3 encoders are supposed to be licensed for significant amounts of money. This is the reason why LiveIce doesn't have an encoder distributed with the package." Should Icecast run into any legal problems, it will have vast corporate resources with which to defend itself. Last month, Icecast sponsor The Green Witch Internet Radio was acquired by Internet investor CMGI. A third open source Internet media effort is underway at Xiphophorus, or Xiph.org. This group of programmers is at work on various multimedia and signal processing projects, with the goal of protecting "the foundations of Internet multimedia from domination by self-serving corporate interests...(and) essential tenets of Internet multimedia from corporate hostage-taking," according to the organization's Web site. Xiph.org's open source projects, which fall under its OggSquish initiative, highlight Ogg Vorbis, a "patent-clear, fully open general-purpose audio encoding format standard that rivals or surpasses the 'upcoming' generation of proprietary coders (AAC and TwinVQ, also known as VQF)." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:26:44 +-0100XYZ(nWxst) From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Strange landing after sending a page I browse a page, and click F2 to email the page to someone. The email is sent successfully, but then I'm not returned to the page I was browsing. Ctl-Left usually gets me back there, but it seems strange that I wouldn't get there automatically. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:55:11 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger) Subject: PROBLEM: http://www.weckruf.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) schreibt: > > If I visit this site, than Arachne crashes immediately. > (and funny colors appear :) Same old story. Frames. I have no idea why it happens, I just turn them off. > Michael please have a look. Yes, please do. Howard Eisenberger Ottawa, Canada - -- ... DOS TCP/IP * <URL:http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:55:14 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger) Subject: Re: PPP Up! "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:47:50 +0000, Jack Cotter wrote: >> >> Would you believe that I'm sending this from the infamous Deskpro 590! >> I'm still working on it, but when I use the diagnostic version >> EPPPDD and turn on the debug option the packed driver will hang in there. >> This is not a solution, but I think it points the way. > > Good work! > When you have time, send me some details. Also, where do you get > epppdd? I just have the epppd that comes with Netdial, and also > the one that comes with Arachne. UKA_PPP uses epppdd, but I would recommend that anyone who is serious about DOS TCP/IP should probably get the original dosppp package at http://personal.redestb.es/tonilop/dosppp/dosppp06.zip. It's got the various versions of (e)pppd(d) as well as the chat program. If you read the documentation and samples.txt, you should be able to come up with a roll-your-own method of loading the packet driver. IMHO this is the best way to understand what is actually going on. Howard Eisenberger Ottawa, Canada - -- ... DOS TCP/IP * <URL:http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:25:41 -0600 From: "Jack Cotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PPP Up! Michael Dawley, Just add a -d as the last entry on the line where you call the daemon. I redirected the output so that I could see what is going on. Jack - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael L. Dawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: Re: PPP Up! > Jack Cotter, > How do you turn on the debug feature in epppdd.exe? > Not that I need it, because it's working perfectly. > Also, I have loaded epppdd high, and notice that it is > 74K. I have plenty of room there, since I have no > CDROM drivers, etc. on this Compaq, and have 35K left > over when connected with epppdd. My conventional free > memory for arachne is 615K which is the same as before, > and not changed. > Thanks, > Michael L. Dawley > Pearl, Mississippi > -- Compaq Deskpro 575 -- > -- Using Netdial 1.3 with Arachne 1.60 -- > -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:04:11 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?Smn47SBQZXRy4bk=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Cache Is it possible to disable pages caching in Arachne Browser? I have in our Intranet web some dynamic pages and Arachne browser always shows pre-cached pages. I don't want to press the 'refresh' button at any time. Could somebody help me? J. Petras ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:37:53 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are there tmp files in my main Arachne directory? Bernie & etc. On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:35:51 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So why do I find textarea.tmp and 4 or 5 other *.tmp files sitting on my >> HDD? > Because this is the place where they are *always* stored (and if you > install an APM you'll notice an apm.log file as well). This is one of the > reasons that you shoudl use a HD caching utility (and all the other small > files, mime.cfg and arachne.cfg for instance, that are constantly reloaded). OK, it's the place they are always stored. I want to know *why* any temporary file is ever stored in the main directory if a site other than said directory has been designated for temporary files. A log is a different matter; logs are for debugging, and need to be permanent so you *can* see what happened when. The Klu Klux Klan always wears robes; that doesn't make it appropriate behavior ... at least not around me! l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:38:08 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "new" hotlist manager... Glenn, My hotlist in s.r.c was about 200 lines or so, and most of those were links. Current line count of the htm code & links is 214. And, although I really appreciate how the new hotlist manager is *supposed* to separate http from ftp from mailto, I'll be doing things by hand until ... l.d. ==== On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 20:46:00 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 20:26:18 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Just tried the new hotlist manager. (oooooo, ugly)<g> >> I'll stick with my "old-tried-and-true" methode. >> (F4, make changes, F2). > Sorry, forgot to say.... none of my links got "lost". > L.D., > The list I just reorganized had 33 links in it. > How many did yours have in it when some of them were lost? > At one time in the past. The limit for hotlist manager was 100 links. > Does anyone know if this limit still exists? - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:24:52 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Why are there tmp files in my main Arachne directory? Glenn, On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 19:17:02 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Also, big warning for those who spend hours finding links: At first it >> looks like Hotlist.mgr was working far better than ever before. So I >> trusted it again today, to properly allocate the new links collected >> [which always appear at the bottom of the old list] to the correct >> areas. Instead I lost over 20 hours worth of blood, sweat and tears; >> all the new links disappeared. :< > So... did you then restore your "back-up" copy??? > What's that you say??? > You didn't make a back-up copy _first_??? > Shame on you..... Bad beta testing procedure.<vbg> I had previously tested Hotlist Mgr. I'd tested it with just links I added from scratch with 1.6b version; I'd added some cut & paste stuff from one of my older well used hotlists, and that tested out fine, organizing and losing nothing. I'd been assured that the new manager wouldn't have limitations in the number of items which could be handled; that would make sense, since e-mail addresses are being added to it now too [can't import them to a quoted response, a "forward" or anything like that ... but it is a way to at least save them]. I've regained a few of the links, but lost a search string I can't precisely remember and I wasn't yet finished with so I'm doing a bit of bumbling around right now. > But seriously, I've yet to try the "new" hotlist manager. > I'll try it and see if the same thing happens to mine. I know one thing: From here on out, until someone says whatever was/is wrong can't possibly be wrong now, I'll be pulling up my own external editor and putting the listings in the right places in the new hotlist. In fact, since Hotlist Manager doesn't alphabetize anything on the list, I mail well be doing cut & paste to file to be sorted and then cut and paste back into hotlist manager. Yes, I use keywords so I can search for them, but how much easier it would be if all the search engine stuff I've saved was grouped together under the beginning keyword of "search" etc. I admit some of the stuff in my hotlist is junk, but generally I use it as an essential tool. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:02:57 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hotmail.com probs More on Crosswinds [net] ... Read their guidelines and they suit me just fine. Only one problem ... they apparently ran out of space and don't expect to be open to new "sign ons" until tomorrow. I currently need a website for a project in July. It's not gonna be fancy, primarily pure text. But since it will be simply FAQs and tips on things I've found out, it doesn't need graphics. I *may* import the Arachne & Any Browser mini-banners though. <G> l.d. ==== On Wed, 09 Feb 2000 04:17:31 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:45:07 -0800 (PST), Jorge Alex Ortega O. wrote: >> --- "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> However, >>> I do know that Arachne hasn't been able to use >>> "www.hotmail.com" ever since >>> the site was bought out by Micro$oft about two years >>> ago. Before Micro$oft >>> messed things up, Hotmail used to work just fine >>> with Arachne and even with >>> text-browsers such as NetTamer and DOS-LYNX. >> Well... Hotmail.com has been modified to work with >> WINDOWS-ONLY web browsers (requires Security >> certificates, which are available only on MSIE 4.0 or >> later (my copy of MSIE 3.0 doesn't work with it) and >> probabily with later versions of netscape... also >> requires https capabilities (secure http transfers, >> which involves encription and some other 'security' >> trashes...) instead of hotmail you can use yahoo mail >> (mail.yahoo.com) or crosswinds >> (www.crosswinds.com...:)) which are good and better > Then I wrote: > [swh] Hola Jorge - Wrong name of URL. Not crosswinds.com, it is > [swh] crosswinds.net. > [swh] Very interesting website. I'm checking it out now. I'll get back later. > [swh] I found out that http://www.crosswinds.com exists also, but it does not > [swh] offer email services. Crosswinds.com would be a good site to visit if > [swh] you are planning on moving to Detroit. > And now I am back after spending considerable time exploring > http://www.crosswinds.net. I have this to say: > Very interesting site. They offer free personal web pages and even free > business web pages. (To get a free business web-page you have to let them > put one of their banners on your page) From reading about their free > email, it appears they do not offer web-based mail, but they do offer > IMAP email, in which you will need to configure your own email client to > use the web-site's mail servers. The kind of email service offered by > crosswinds should not be compared to hotmail because it is not > web-based mail. Yes, you probably could use it with Arachne, or with any > other program having its own internet email client. > Sam Heywood >> than hotmail and you can use all in arachne :) >> Have a nice day :) >> J. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >> http://im.yahoo.com > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #989 *****************************
