arachne-digest       Thursday, February 17 2000       Volume 01 : Number 999




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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:42:07 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: OT Re: what is .pdf

Hi

Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 CV> You are right, it clears it up - but ONLY a little.
 CV> You had posted that it still worked after you changed your path
 CV> to EXCLUDE cwsdpmi.exe.
 CV> ??
No ... Glenn has excluded dos4gw from path, and it worked, because cwsdpmi
WAS STILL in path.

DJGPP programs try to access DPMI, if they fail, they look for cwsdpmi, if
that fails, they exit with an error message.

So you either need a DPMI server already loaded (drdos emm386, qdpmi), or
cwsdpmi in path.

 CV> And anyway, the obscure point I've been trying to make is, some stuff
 CV> works for some people because they accidentally have the support crap
 CV> that the author forgot to mention was required. (Or in some cases,
 CV> maybe the author doesn't KNOW his program won't run on EVERBODYs
 CV> hardrive.)
You don't have to run those programs.
DJGPP is a great compiler, and it manages to evade some DOS deficiencies !
But it needs DPMI to acomplish that, so if you want to run such programs,
you have to provide DPMI interface.

I think this is absolutely worth it. (alone because of the speedup of
linear memory acces ...)

 CV> -  Clarence Verge

CU, Ricsi

PS: I can send you cwsdpmi if you want to, just contact me per mail.
- -- 
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:34:29 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Sound Blaster 16

Hi

"Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 MD> By adding midi to Arachne, I then would be able to visit a .wav and
 MD> .mid site, and play both kinds of files as easily as I now can play
 MD> the .wav files using the stock Arachne-plany.exe setup.
Yes exactly.

Arachne simply calls the apropriate file per DGI !

 MD> Michael L. Dawley

 MD> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
If you have to use Outlook, please disable HTML posting !

CU, Ricsi

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Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:48:34 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Happy Birthday Pegasus Mail!

Hello all,
Pegasus Mail is really very good, especially useful for 
putting together complicated emails where one has to gather
up lots of info from various places in your files.
It's better than Outlook Express that comes with WIN 98.
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 -- 
DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:27:46 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: O.T. (sorry !)  Karioki Player for Windows (was Sound Blaster 16)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:29:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ron Clarke said:
> Hi Folks,

 Michael L. Dawley wrote:
 >However, when I tried to play some of the midi files, Arachne
 >could not do so.

Bernie wrote:
>> I don't know about sbbasic.exe but Creative have an *extremly* good DOS
>> MIDI program called play.exe perhaps it came along?
MD>Bernie,
I got play.exe in 95DOSAPP.EXE as mentioned in my post yesterday.
<snip>
RC> I have a SB16. I am also seriously into MIDIs, as a sequencer (see my
> web site).
MD>http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html

RC> I have play.exe and will happily zip and send on request. You will need
> the other bits and pieces tho', from Creative, to set the card to fire under
> DOS and Windows.  I can invoke it from Arachne, just by editing mime.cfg as
> suggested by others.
- --------
MD>
I need to know how to edit mime.cfg to invoke play.exe. Right now I
have it in my c:\sounds directory, and am using play.exe to test the
midi files I have.
- --------
RC> For those that have forgotten, there is also a MIDI player APM for
> download (from John P Tomany). Unfortunately for me, it needs more memory than
> I can spare, but it should be OK for those without as much overhead as me.
> That is the "cndmidi" that was refered to in another post.
- ------------

MD> Need to know where John's site is so I can get cndmidi.exe
- --------------------
> But unless you have a daughter MIDI card inserted into your SB16, the
> MIDIs will sound pretty artificial.
- ------------------------------------
MD> That's what I found out using play.exe.
- ------------------------------------
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 --
DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:27:47 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: O.T. (sorry !)  Karioki Player for Windows (was Sound Blaster 16)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:29:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ron Clarke said:
> Hi Folks,

 Michael L. Dawley wrote:
 >However, when I tried to play some of the midi files, Arachne
 >could not do so.

Bernie wrote:
>> I don't know about sbbasic.exe but Creative have an *extremly* good DOS
>> MIDI program called play.exe perhaps it came along?
MD>Bernie,
I got play.exe in 95DOSAPP.EXE as mentioned in my post yesterday.
<snip>
RC> I have a SB16. I am also seriously into MIDIs, as a sequencer (see my
> web site).
MD>http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html

RC> I have play.exe and will happily zip and send on request. You will need
> the other bits and pieces tho', from Creative, to set the card to fire under
> DOS and Windows.  I can invoke it from Arachne, just by editing mime.cfg as
> suggested by others.
- --------
MD>
I need to know how to edit mime.cfg to invoke play.exe. Right now I
have it in my c:\sounds directory, and am using play.exe to test the
midi files I have.
- --------
RC> For those that have forgotten, there is also a MIDI player APM for
> download (from John P Tomany). Unfortunately for me, it needs more memory than
> I can spare, but it should be OK for those without as much overhead as me.
> That is the "cndmidi" that was refered to in another post.
- ------------

MD> Need to know where John's site is so I can get cndmidi.exe
- --------------------
> But unless you have a daughter MIDI card inserted into your SB16, the
> MIDIs will sound pretty artificial.
- ------------------------------------
MD> That's what I found out using play.exe.
- ------------------------------------
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 --
DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:46:38 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need Help?

BRIAN RENFROW wrote:
> 
> Hey All,
> I'm new at this, and  I need your help.  I have been reading this list for
> awhile, hoping to learn.  Well, anyway.  I have a computer given to me, but
> the drive has been formatted.  I need to know how I can get into it to
> install DOS or some other variation.  I want to put Arachne on it and I need
> to get it to a prompt.  It has a Conner Drive, the model number is CSF425A.

Hi Brian;
First I think we need to know what is on the drive now.
Is there an operating system or has it been low-level formatted only ?

Second, if you want to run DOS, do you have (or can you get) a set of DOS
disks ?  

Third, does the CMOS recognize the drive ? i.e. Can you get a C:> prompt ?
You may have to hit "DEL" during boot up to enter CMOS SETUP and either tell
it some drive details or have it autodetect your drive type.
Try the latter first.
  
Fourth, if the drive is blank except for the low level format, (type dir)
you will have to boot up on the first disk of the DOS set (put diskette in
drive A: and turn power on) and after setting date and time your actions
will depend on what DOS you get. For almost any DOS after 5.0, type SETUP
and I guess there will be instruction.  I've never done it this way but I
would recommend it to a first time DOS user.<G>

For any other DOS I would suggest you type FORMAT C:/S
This will ensure that any crap on the drive is no longer accessable.

At this point you should be able to boot up on the hard drive and if you did
the manual style install (not setup) you will have to generate autoexec.bat
and config.sys files and copy only the stuff you need to the hard drive.

Get back to us.

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:01:49 -0800
From: "Bob  Buckland ?:-\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .PDF from m$-word apparantly sucks

Hi Bart,

<<Bart Van Voodruren: Does anyone have an m$-word version with it's own pdf
compiler? (check "save as..." menu option for .pdf)>>

MS Word does not have a PDF converter.  If the PDFWriter is
there it's likely the Adobe Add-in.

RTF to PDF would probably work a bit more cleanly, but that
type of character drop out happens in PDFs that look good
on screen and then are printed out.

Bob  Buckland  ?:-)

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:44:10 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: O.T. (sorry !)  Karioki Player for Windows (was Sound Blaster 16)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
>     I have a SB16. I am also seriously into MIDIs, as a sequencer (see my
> web site).
>
>     I have play.exe and will happily zip and send on request. You will need
> the other bits and pieces tho', from Creative, to set the card to fire under
> DOS and Windows.  I can invoke it from Arachne, just by editing mime.cfg as
> suggested by others.
>     For those that have forgotten, there is also a MIDI player APM for
> download (from John P Tomany). Unfortunately for me, it needs more memory than
> I can spare, but it should be OK for those without as much overhead as me.
> That is the "cndmidi" that was refered to in another post.
>

MIDI at SB16 ? You kidding. It's awful.
Yamaha 724 have MUCH MORE natural sound, especially with
XG MIDI standart. And it cost less than SB16.

Sergie

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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:37 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error

Bart,
I don't recall any such choice in the setup.  Mind spoon feeding me a bit
here?  Is "use bootp" something new with version 1.60?  Again, I am still
trying to get 1.48 - 1.50 working.  And I am using (successfully?) the
dialer that came with the Arachne download (miniterm?).   How did you know
that the "load error" was due to insufficient memory?  Thanks much for the
kind attention.

Steve

- -- Original message --
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:30:23
From: Van Voordturen <labrat@xs4all

Have you tried checking "use bootp" in the external dialer setup yet?
(I got a load error due to insufficient memory with 1.60, bootp was the
solution)

(if the package driver loads, modem and port settings must be good)

Bart

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 00:09:43 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:25:54 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:

> Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>  The attached file _should_ clear things-up (a little bit anyway)<g>
>> (report created by WATCH.EXE)
>>  ---snip
>> $4B Exec program C:\XPDFDOS\CWSDPMI.EXE
>> $4B Exec program \CWSDPMI.EXE
>> $4B Exec program C:\1BATCH\CWSDPMI.EXE
>> $4B Exec program C:\1COMMON\CWSDPMI.EXE

> You are right, it clears it up - but ONLY a little.
> You had posted that it still worked after you changed your path
> to EXCLUDE cwsdpmi.exe.

> ??

The answer to your "??" is simple.
When I removed c:\1common from my path,
Niether c:\1common\dos4gw.exe nor c:\1common\cwsdpmi.exe could be found
by pdftotex.exe when it asked for it.
 But, on that first test I was not yet thinking about cwsdpmi.exe
I was testing for wheather or not dos4gw.exe was required.
So, since I ran that first test of pdftotex.exe/dos4wg.exe from within
Arachne....... L:\arachne\cwsdpmi.exe _was_ found.

 Yep, I forgot that I also had a copy of it in the Arachne directory.

> And anyway, the obscure point I've been trying to make is, some stuff works
> for some people because they accidentally have the support crap that the
> author forgot to mention was required. (Or in some cases, maybe the author
> doesn't KNOW his program won't run on EVERBODYs hardrive.)

 Correct. The programmer might have also forgotten about the fact that
cwsdpmi.exe was in the path or the current directory.(like I did)<g>
 Hey, I've gotten so used to pressing X<enter> to run Xtree-pro....
I find myself doing it while in Arachne.
(and of coarse I end-up at http://arachne.cz/ )

 Now, if we could just find a PDF to text converter that doesn't
require 386+

 Or does someone know of a DPMI that will work on less than a 386 ???

- --
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
      http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:24:16 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:37 -0800, Steve Evans wrote:

> Bart,
> I don't recall any such choice in the setup.  Mind spoon feeding me a bit
> here?  Is "use bootp" something new with version 1.60?  Again, I am still
> trying to get 1.48 - 1.50 working.  And I am using (successfully?) the
> dialer that came with the Arachne download (miniterm?).   How did you know
> that the "load error" was due to insufficient memory?  Thanks much for the
> kind attention.

> Steve

 This is clipped from Arachne.cfg v1.60b1
- ------------------------------------------
;IP_Address n.n.n.n  ... fixed IP address
;IP_Address PPP      ... for PPP.EXE and PPPD.EXE (get address from PPP.LOG)
;IP_Address BOOTP    ... WatTcp attepmts to use BOOTP protocol
;IP_Address %enviro% ... Minuet style (enviroment variable, like %MYIP%)
;IP_Address WATTCP   ... use ONLY values from TCPconfig (variable "my_ip")
- ------------------------------------------

And this is clipped from Arachne.cfg v1.10
- ------------------------------------------
;[!][*] IP address - REQUIRED ! (unless "Connection NUL")
;;n.n.n.n     ... fixed IP address
;;BOOTP       ... WatTcp attepmts to do BOOTP (will not work with PPP.EXE)
;;PPP         ... Arachne gets IP address from file PPP.LOG
;;WATTCP      ... Arachne uses WatTcp configuration (MY_IP in TCPconfig)
;;%enviro%    ... Minuet style (enviroment variable, like %MYIP%)
- ------------------------------------------

 Looks to me as if "BOOTP" has been there for a long time.<g>

> -- Original message --
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:30:23
> From: Van Voordturen <labrat@xs4all

> Have you tried checking "use bootp" in the external dialer setup yet?
> (I got a load error due to insufficient memory with 1.60, bootp was the
> solution)

> (if the package driver loads, modem and port settings must be good)

> Bart

- --
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
      http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:47:24 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AOL Instant Messenger

Hello:

Can any of you folks out there tell me what AOL Instant Messenger is?

Is it like ICQ?  If so, can you use some kind of DOS IRC client to
communicate with folks who are using the AOL Instant Messenger service?

I would really like to know a little bit more about this one, but 
please don't tell me more than I ever wanted to know <vbg>.

Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:02:40 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger

whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.

Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> Hello:
>
> Can any of you folks out there tell me what AOL Instant Messenger is?
>
> Is it like ICQ?  If so, can you use some kind of DOS IRC client to
> communicate with folks who are using the AOL Instant Messenger service?
>
> I would really like to know a little bit more about this one, but
> please don't tell me more than I ever wanted to know <vbg>.
>
> Sam Heywood
> -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 04:15:55 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with TELNET

I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to 
delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried entring
UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I also
got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It did
not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo work?
Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?  

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:18:23 -000
From: Mike Millen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

Hi Clarence,

  CV>MM> I've discovered why the xpdf utilities run for me...
  CV>MM> I found cwsdpmi in my \Arachne directory, which is in my path.
  CV>MM> I can't find it in the 1.61 zip file so I can only guess that
  CV>MM> it came along with the QV APM (the only APM I have installed).


  CV>I downloaded QV about a year ago. I've just checked ALL my drives
  CV>for cwsdpmi* and found nothing.


Hmmm... heaven knows where I got it from, then.  :)

Anyway... it's freely available and you don't have to install it
at boot-up... just leave it laying around.  <g>

Cheers,
Mike


- --

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:18:27 -000
From: Mike Millen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: silencing the modem?

Hi Michael,

  MD>I took my Hayes Accura apart once, and noticed a big heat sink
  MD>attached to an SCR transistor, an wondered what it was there for.

Not nit-picking, but my electronics background won't let me pass this
one...   <g>

The device on the heatsink may have been a transistor and was more
likely a linear regulator, but it was almost certainly not an SCR
(silicon controlled rectifier).

Mike


- --

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:41:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1.60 in VGA mode !

>
Those machines you are thinking about exploring seem quite powerful,
and it would be a challenge to get them running with Netscape, etc.
You might have to say goodby to Arachne if they don't have DOS on
them, I'm not sure.
>
If I buy a new non-Intel/compatible computer, I might have to give up DOS.  I am
not sure of DOS emulators.  Some non-Intel/compatible computers can be bought
with a card that includes an Intel chip, and there might be a DOS emulator like
Virtual PC that runs on Mac.  Hopefully Linux and NetBSD will make me not want
to go back to DOS.  Be plans to offer BeOS 5 free for download (end of March?),
but without some of the fancier add-ons.  This will be for Intel/compatible,
maybe some PowerPCs, but not the latest PowerPCs because of Apple keeping
specifications secret.  So my long-term future with Arachne is doubtful in view
of the competition.

Support the International Alliance for Compatible Technology
http://pages.cthome.net/iact/

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:41:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:Modem nodems!

>
Still trying to get the 233 working with Arachne, without success. The =
modem is a "Pro-media" Data/Fax/Voice Modem and says on the box it's a =
V90 PCI 56k unit.
>
Maybe the modem is a Losemodem?  Try booting straight DOS, or any non-Windows
OS.  I believe most but not all PCI modems are Losemodems.

Your message came through in two parts: plain text and HTML, both encoded
quoted-printable, hence the = signs at the end of your lines.  You have to check
the settings carefully with Outlook Express so it doesn't do things you don't
want.

Support the International Alliance for Compatible Technology
http://pages.cthome.net/iact/

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:03:36 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: OT Re: what is .pdf

Hi

"Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 GM>  Or does someone know of a DPMI that will work on less than a 386 ???
Sorry ... but this is impossible.

286- don't have the necessary MMU.

 GM> Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA

CU, Ricsi

- -- 
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
- -=> You can explain _that_ to the Captain? -Spock <=-

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:18:22 +0000
From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghostscript (what is .pdf)

On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:38:15 +0100, richard Menedetter wrote:

> E> GS.BAT runs Ghostscript to display on the screen. Press RETURN after
> E> each screenful to get the next. You won't get a text prompt
> E> overwriting the display.
> Great thanks ... but -q does not seem to work here.
> I have to enter quit at the end to exit the program.
>

   I think the idea is to put -dBATCH (case is significant) at the end
of the command line. That makes it come out automatically - I think....

> And the default display is very small. I can't really read the content.
> Do you know a way, that bigger characters are used ??
> (Maybe display only half a page at once)
>

   Yes - that's the one thing that still defeats me. It may be possible
to manipulate the size somehow by selecting a different screen driver.
One of the documentation files (is it USE.TXT?) lists a table of SVGA
codes to use, but I couldn't get anything other than standard VGA to
work. When I have time, I'll have another try and report back to you if
I get anywhere.

   There are supposed to be 'front-end' programmes available to drive
the basic Ghostscript for you, but I never found one for DOS. A facility
to pan around the document and zoom in/out would be VERY nice.... In any
case, I think that nobody is bothering to make a version of the latest
Ghostscripts for DOS and it seems like the earlier versions cannot cope
with the latest .PDF formats.

   I wonder whether Linux fares any better in this respect than DOS?

   All the best,

      Ron.
                                         

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:17:12 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

Clarence wrote:
>Hi Bernie;

Hello to you too Clarence :)

>But WHY does it work for you ?

Read on...

>The really strange thing here is how many people it DOES work for who
apparantly
>are using either a 32bit DOS extender or a Protected Mode Interface without
>being aware of it.

I do not use it - but programs that need dos4gw.exe or cwsdpmi.exe will
find them in my C:\DOS directory.
If you install the plugin I made for XPDF (useless since you already have
downloaded the .zip file) everything will work. The plugin doesn't have
cwsdpmi.exe but if you look in your main Arachne directory you'll see it
there. Copy it to your DOS directory (or whatever it is that's first in
your path - I put almost all small utils in c:\dos).

>Is everyone using DOS in a Window box ??

I'm certainly not! How can you even acuse honest people of such a thing! ;-)

BTW: I don't have gzip installed (I think) - but I'll cross that bridge
when I come to it (ie. when the program is needed to operate pdftotex.exe).
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:17:07 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (OT) MIDI files in DOS (was Re: Sound Blaster 16)

Glenn wrote:
> Have you tried Cubic Player???

Yes, but I can give it another try...

>If you've never heard a MIDI the way it was _meant_ to sound...
>         You won't believe your ears !!! <g>

Actually there's another program I have that can play MIDI files - DOOM
Legacy ;) I have never tried to play MIDIs but IIRC it can if it's in the
file(s).
And using a patch.dat file for Doom Legacy (wherever I got that one from)
the sound was much better (the orignal DOOM music of course).
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:17:13 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

Mike wrote:
>I found cwsdpmi in my \Arachne directory, which is in my path.
>
>I can't find it in the 1.61 zip file so I can only guess that
>it came along with the QV APM (the only APM I have installed).

It's in the original distribution. It's required for the following lines:
image/png                PNG>BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1
image/x-png              PNG>BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1
file/.png            >BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1

AFAIK QPV doesn't use cwsdpmi (but I'm very far from beeing sure).

If you want to save some HD space (ie. have cwsdpmi.exe in your path) you
can remove "$ecwsdpmi.exe\n". (And then of course the file itself).
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:17:15 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16

Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>I didn't get play.exe in the package. I'll look at the website
>and see if I can find it. How big is play.exe? 

31K :)
Plays the following:

.wav
.mid
And IIRC (these are very uncommon):
.voc
.cmf
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:52:52 +0000
From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #947

>Try LaTex (pronounced la-tech), it's a rather common format and can do all
>those things quoted (but might be a little hard). There are programs out
>for most OS, including but not limited to W95 (never got that one to work
>but it worked at two friends computers), DOS and Linux.
>//Bernie

This is an old message...  I used to use LaTeX on Unix stations,  I liked
it.  Is the DOS or the W95 version any good?  Where do I find them?

Charles

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:41:15 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

Bernie wrote:
>
> Mike wrote:
> >I found cwsdpmi in my \Arachne directory, which is in my path.
> >
> >I can't find it in the 1.61 zip file so I can only guess that
> >it came along with the QV APM (the only APM I have installed).
>
> It's in the original distribution. It's required for the following lines:
> image/png                PNG>BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1
> image/x-png              PNG>BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1
> file/.png                   >BMP|$ecwsdpmi.exe\n$epng2bmp.exe -s -o $2 $1

AHA !
Hi Bernie, Mike, Richard;
So that's why it works for so many !

Yes, I also found it on the HD on my P90 where I put Arachne 1.6b1 for testing.
That's a strange file to include in a distribution that's supposed to be able
to run on a '286 - or has that changed ? BTW, it's NOT in 1.50b2 distribution.

I normally run Arachne (and everything else for that matter) on my '486 where
Arachne has to run on a ramdisk to keep my blood pressure down.
Since Arachne was not expanded when I tested pdftotex, cwsdpmi was not there.

Are we being pried/pushed/pulled kicking and screaming into the 32 bit world ?


Richard, I personally prefer a flat address space and have always found the
segmented Intel architecture repulsive.  That hardly excuses adding  more
software to my hardware just so it can run an incredibly bloated version of a
simple format conversion routine. Any self respecting ASM programmer with the
proper motivation could cut that 1meg down to 64k and wouldn't need a dpmi.

I think the best programmers in the world are gamers.   And if THESE guys,
writing in ASM, want to use a flat address space to get the effect they are
building, then that's fine by me.  It might be a good idea to put a Honda
engine in a Reynard chassis to enter an F1 race, but putting a supercharger
on a Honda Civic to pull a trailer uphill is just silly.

I hope the fractured analogy is amusing to some.

Just so you won't think I'm a total Luddite, I will try QDPMI to see if it
has ANY negative effect on my everyday 16bit operations.  I will also try,
and possibly use, pdftotex until something more respectable comes along.

As always, the opinions expressed are those of the writer and do not reflect
the views of the majority.<G>


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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:48:29 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf

Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>
>  Now, if we could just find a PDF to text converter that doesn't
> require 386+
> 
>  Or does someone know of a DPMI that will work on less than a 386 ???

Hi Glenn;

My manual for QEMM 8 says DPMI is any industry standard method for allowing
DOS applications to access protected mode features of _286_ and higher
processors - but I think it's a typo. <G>

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