arachne-digest Thursday, February 17 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1000
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:34:05 -0600
From: "BRIAN RENFROW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Some More Info
Clarence,
When I boot the computer up it comes up to an error message saying missing
operating system. I don't know if this is from the drive just being blank
or something else. As far as access to DOS disks, the only thing I can get
is upgrade DOS disks. Will that work if I can get it to a C: prompt?
Brian D. Renfrow
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:02:12
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On 16 Feb 00 at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.
Gee, thanks. That really raised the general level of content here on
the list.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
It is easier to get older than it is to get wiser.
This mail written by a user of Arachne, the DOS Internet Client
WWWWW World Wide Web Without Windows
http://home.arachne.cz Arachne DOS Browser Home Page
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:47:12 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:06:18 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:
> Hi
> "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MD> I got it to work. Can now play midi files from within Arachne.
> great !
> MD> I'm using play.exe, and I have a temporary exit from Arachne
> MD> while the midi plays. When I return, I have to F9 to get my
> MD> Arachne screen redrawn. I have about 5 groups of colors, vertical,
> MD> on the left, and the X-1 is smeared down the screen all the way
> MD> to the bottom. Does this each time I exit from play.exe.
> OK ... here is a possible solution use a @ as first character.
> (use TEXTMODE)
> I think this should cure it !
> CU, Ricsi
> --
> Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
> -=> Forget diets. Hang around people fatter than you <=-
Hello Ricsi, Glenn, all:
Using @ as per above, now when the player is exited, I return to
arachne with a normal screen, ready to play another midi<g>
My mime.cfg is attached.
Question: Will this mime.cfg be retained when upgrading to b2?
I'll bet it will be, but just wanted to make sure<g>.
Thanks to Glenn for his timely assistance with Mime.cfg.
As for the quality of midi's played with a SB 16 card:
The midi's offered at
http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
are quite good and sound ok on a SB 16.
Also, as long as Arachne has that page and the midi files
in cache, no connection to the internet is necessary to play them
again. Hard to do that in Netscape<g>.
Thanks,
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 --
DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 20:10:50 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:17:15 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>> I didn't get play.exe in the package. I'll look at the website
>> and see if I can find it. How big is play.exe?
> 31K :)
> Plays the following:
> ..wav
> ..mid
> And IIRC (these are very uncommon):
> ..voc
> ..cmf
> //Bernie
> http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...
Bernie,
Thanks. I got play.exe working correctly with Arachne.
Posted my mime.cfg file in another post to show how.
Thanks for your help. Now, anytime I need a little midi
music, I can get it using Arachne<g>.
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi
- -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 --
DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:15:08 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:02:12, Dale Mentzer wrote:
> On 16 Feb 00 at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.
> Gee, thanks. That really raised the general level of content here on
> the list.
Dale,
Sorry, `AIM' will only run on Windows and Mac systems.
For more info, try this link..... http://www.aol.com/aim/about.html
- --
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:20:08 EST
From: Michael D Hildenbrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
Mark,
Normaly Telnet is used to log into a distant server, like a Unix
server to read email. Usually, these servers have Pine to read email.
You don't say, but are you using Pine? Telnet is usually just a vehicle
to get to the destination.
Michael
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 04:15:55 -0500 Mark David Roth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to
>delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
>seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
>successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried
>entring
>UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I
>also
>got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It
>did
>not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo
>work?
>Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:36:54 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some More Info
BRIAN RENFROW wrote:
> Clarence,
>
> When I boot the computer up it comes up to an error message saying missing
> operating system. I don't know if this is from the drive just being blank
> or something else. As far as access to DOS disks, the only thing I can get
> is upgrade DOS disks. Will that work if I can get it to a C: prompt?
>
> Brian D. Renfrow
Active partition tag in FAT cause this message on some systems.
I have message "NO ROM BASIC" , isn't cool ?
Sergie
- --
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:51:56 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 04:15:55 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote:
> I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to
> delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
> seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
> successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried entring
> UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I also
> got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It did
> not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo work?
> Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?
The best source of information I know of about TELNET and how it may be
used for working with email may be found here:
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506/siberia.htm
Some ISPs, mine for example, do not allow subscribers to use TELNET to
get into their email and do anything with it. I have been so informed
by the technical support people. My former ISP did allow TELNET access
to email and I was successful in using the Telnet program that was
provided as an APM for Arachne version 1.42b.
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:39:01 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:02:12, Dale Mentzer wrote:
> On 16 Feb 00 at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.
> Gee, thanks. That really raised the general level of content here on
> the list.
> Regards,
> Dale Mentzer
Hello Arachnids:
I'm sorry if my question about AOL Instant Messenger offended anyone. I
really don't know what it is. I thought it might be some kind of chat
program similar to ICQ. If this is indeed the case, then my question is
not at all off-topic, as many of us do use some kind of IRC program with
Arachne. If someone would just please explain to me what kind of program
or service AOL Instant Messenger is, I would appreciate it.
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:28:41 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some More Info
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:36:54 +0200, Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BRIAN RENFROW wrote:
>> Clarence,
>> When I boot the computer up it comes up to an error message saying missing
>> operating system. I don't know if this is from the drive just being blank
>> or something else. As far as access to DOS disks, the only thing I can get
>> is upgrade DOS disks. Will that work if I can get it to a C: prompt?
>> Brian D. Renfrow
> Active partition tag in FAT cause this message on some systems.
> I have message "NO ROM BASIC" , isn't cool ?
> Sergie
Hello Brian:
If the hard drive really has nothing on it (i.e. not formatted with an
active partition present and not having any system files installed) and
you have no system disk in a floppy disk inserted in drive A: prior to
turning on the machine, then this is a normal error message. You must
install an operating system either on the hard drive or the floppy drive.
Also, you must insure that your CMOS settings are set up so as to specify
the boot order. (i.e. The computer is to search for an operating system in
A:, then C:, or C:, then A:, or whatever, according to your preferences.)
I suggest that you look into your DOS manual and read about the commands
FDISK.COM and FORMAT.COM. It is difficult for some people to understand
how to use FDISK.COM just from reading the manual. I myself used to have
trouble with this one. See if you can find some knowledgeable person who
can help you by demonstrating to you the use of this command on an actual
system. Once you learn how to use it, it's easy. You won't forget. It's
like learning to ride a bicycle.
Sam Heywood
P.S. BTW, make sure that your DOS version and your BIOS is capable of
recognizing a hard drive partition up to the size you specify in FDISK.
For example, DOS version 3.30 cannot recognize hard drive partitions
larger than 32 megabytes.
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:38:36 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Blaster 16
- -Richard Menedetter wrote:
- -Hi
MD> "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MD> However, when I tried to play some of the midi files, Arachne
MD> could not do so.
- -You need a program, that plays midi ....
- -Some folks here found a really good one, which can be integrated into
- -arachne. (shame on me I have forgotten their names ... Roger Turk maybe ??)
MD> Anyway, I'm happy that I got this far with it
- -GREAT !
MD> Michael L. Dawley
I have a program that came with my Sound Blaster Pro card, PLAYMIDI.
If you'd like a copy, let me know and I'll ZIP it to you.
I have many other programs for Sound Blaster too.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:15 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virus Alert!
>> Gregy wrote:
>> software; I can imagine what fun it could be to have that CMOS virus
>> program activated while attempting to install BootMagic or System
>> Commander. I'll be your worst nightmare would be pleasant in comparison.
>
>Nope....manual and install instructions for Boot Manager and System
>Commander, et al say to turn it back off while you do the install, then
>turn it back on...BUT...AMI Bios doesn't require that, as long as you
>answer "yes" (i.e. let the program continue with its instal)
- -Bernie replied:
- -Actually my BIOS didn't complain when I rewrote my MBR (under the
- -installation of Lilo).
- -BIOS does claim to have "ChipAwayVirus Detect" or something like that. I
- -guess there are diffrent degrees of "cmos av programs".
Are there any CMOS AV programs? Where could I get them?
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:40:04 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Happy Birthday Pegasus Mail!
Where can I get Pegasus Mail?
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:35 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ghostscript (what is .pdf)
Where can I get Ghostscript from?
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:27 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:46:33 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote:
> I have drivers for Windows and DOS for a Sound Blaster Pro if ypou
> would like to try them. I never neded to use the DOS drivers. I don't
> know why they bother to make them. I also have programs for testing
> your card and diagnosing the settings. Plus a lot of extra programs
> and sound files. Let me know if you want them and I'll ZIP them to you.
- -Michael L. Dawley replied:
- -Mark,
- -I got it going. Went to:
- -http://www.creative.com/support/files/download.asp
- -and got sbbasic.exe downloaded to a disk and set it up on
- -this computer.
- -I notice that Arachne cannot play midi files, only .wav files
- -using plany.exe.
- -I have been having fun setting up various .wav files to play
- -as I go through my menu, etc. and Arachne. I have to call them
- -in the .bat files I have on this setup. I put all the files
- -in a directory c:\sound, along with plany.exe from Arachne.
- -Do you have something that will play the midi's in DOS and/or
- -Arachne?
Yes I do have a good DOS MIDi player for Sound Blaster. It;'s called
PLAYMIDI.EXE and needs to be run by PLAYMIDI.BAT because it loads a
driver before it plays and unloads the driver afterwards. You only
have to edit your MIME.CFG to allopw it to play for Arachne. It works
fine for me. I'd be glad to ZIP it to you, just let me know. I have a
lot of other stuff too.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:53:37 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:15:08 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:02:12, Dale Mentzer wrote:
>> On 16 Feb 00 at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.
>> Gee, thanks. That really raised the general level of content here on
>> the list.
> Dale,
> Sorry, `AIM' will only run on Windows and Mac systems.
> For more info, try this link..... http://www.aol.com/aim/about.html
Howdy Glenn,
It was I, not Dale, who originally posted the question about AOL Instant
Messenger. Thanks for your reply. I checked out the URL. There is also
a Windows CE version of AIM, and it works. My son has installed the CE
version of AIM on his handheld computer. The Windows CE version of ICQ is
very buggy according to my son and his friends. They tried it and had
problems with it. It seems that the CE version of ICQ doesn't like
dynamically assigned IP numbers. I can't personally check it out myself
because my son lives very far from me. Anyone having information on this,
please respond privately, as the subject of Windows CE programs is way
off-topic.
>From what I understand, AIM is just a program developed by AOL to compete
with ICQ. It appears that AIM does just the same kind of thing as ICQ.
A very fine DOS version of ICQ (called MICQ by its author) has been
developed. I use it and it works great. Since we now have a DOS clone
for ICQ, it would of course seem theoretically possible to write a similar
DOS program for AIM. I sure would like to have such a program.
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 02:58:24 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Arachne Digest 1000 bug
Oh no !!!! I have the Arachne Digest 1000 bug !!!
I've been naming my archived digests "arachxxx.txt"
and now that we've reached a 4-digit number, 1000
will be 100 because of the 8.3 DOS filename limit ;o)
(guess I'll have to name it arac1000.txt)
Congrats to Michael on the first Digest Millennium.
Binky
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:39:16 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
Bart,
I did find the note on BOOTP after all in the Arachne.cfg. I tried it with
setting IP_Address BOOTP instead of PPP, but it didn't make any noticable
difference. Freewwweb ISP still won't go to the start page (any start page)
after connecting. Compuserve ISP starts loading the start page, then stalls
before finishing --OR even if I stop it, any attempt to go to another URL
ends up with the "Arachne load error".
I also tried restarting with a bare-bones config.sys and without any
autoexec.bat, hoping to rule out any memory issues. I do have the drive
compressed --do you suppose that might be the problem?
Steve
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 01:24:16 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
And this is clipped from Arachne.cfg v1.10
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;[!][*] IP address - REQUIRED ! (unless "Connection NUL")
;;n.n.n.n ... fixed IP address
;;BOOTP ... WatTcp attepmts to do BOOTP (will not work with PPP.EXE)
;;PPP ... Arachne gets IP address from file PPP.LOG
;;WATTCP ... Arachne uses WatTcp configuration (MY_IP in TCPconfig)
;;%enviro% ... Minuet style (enviroment variable, like %MYIP%)
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Looks to me as if "BOOTP" has been there for a long time
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:55:24 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
Again, thanks everyone for your suggestions. Here are my disappointed
results so far. I have re-copied my original message below in case somebody
gets another inspiration.
Roger,
I tried it with logo animation off -- no improvement.
Clarence,
I trimmed the config.sys down to almost nothing and started without any
autoexec.bat, hoping to rule out any memory issue or utility conflicts. It
didn't make any apparent difference in Arachne performance or page download
success.
Sergei,
I will try to get proxy server name/addresses from both Freewwweb and
Compuserve ISPs. But I still wonder why another Freewwweb user in my local
area can surf with Arachne via Freewwweb with no HTTPproxy setting.
- -- Original Message --
I've been trying for months, off and on, to get past "Arachne load error".
I seem to have gotten further than many new Arachne users. For now, it is
version 1.50 (had the same trouble with version 1.49). Let me know if you
think 1.60 has any real chance of faring better.
I've tried it on two machines --one a 386 with 2 megs of RAM and the other a
486 with 8 megs RAM -- same symptoms on both. Using MS-DOS 6.22, no EMS,
DOS loaded high. Before starting Arachne MEM shows 697k of conventional
memory free and 6.9 MB XMS free. I have tried to configure it as simply as
possible. Modem is a US Robotics internal set to port 1, irq 4. I tried
setting slower speeds. I have tried substituting the actual port address in
the Arachne.cfg, but it makes no difference --connection is usually
successful anyway. I am using everything as the Arachne installation set up
automatically.
I have a Compuserve account and a Freewwweb account. I can connect to both.
After dialing, it returns "Installed packet driver handler at vector 0x60".
Then it tries to locate the start page. I have verified that both
Compuserve and Freewweb are assigning a new IP. On exit from Arachne, the
Arachne system variables all show values (MYIP, REMIP, NETMASK, PEERMRU --
though Freewwweb assigns 0.0.0.0 to NETMASK). I have been careful to clear
the cache (F8) and either reboot or SET MYIP= before each redial while
testing. MYIP always shows a new value.
With Compuserve it is more successful. Arachne starts downloading the
assigned start page. Sometimes it will finish. Usually it stalls, while
the X-I logo keeps animating the lightning pattern. After a long wait, I
will try pressing R to refresh, or G to enter another URL and the status
line will change to "Connecting to home.arachne.cz [or whatever URL], port
80", stalled again with the X-I logo showing the multicolored spiral
animation. Then I will try pressing G again for another URL. Status line
changes to "Asking for domain name server for [whatever URL]" and the X-I
logo animates the blue/green square pattern. Finally it times out, reads
"Cannot locate computer [URL]" and goes to the Arachne Load Error screen
"Cannot open connection/ Arachne was unable to load requested URL/ Possible
reasons:" and none of the reasons or Arachne documentation is much help.
But even if the start page finishes loading, any attempt to hyperlink or go
to a new URL just stalls again in the same way.
With Freewwweb, it dials, connects, "Installed packet driver . . ." and
assigns IP. Then the status line reads "Asking domain name server for
[start URL --doesn't matter which one I try]". Finally it times out, status
"Cannot locate computer [URL] and goes to the same Arachne Load Error page.
I have tried lengthening the time out, but it doesn't seem to matter. I
have tried substituting an Arachne.cfg used successfully by another
Freewwweb subscriber in my local Los Angeles metro area, but I get the very
same symptoms.
Before I post copy of my own Arachne.cfg or other details, I am hoping that
one of you expert Arachnites will recognize these symptoms. Looks like a
great program, and a perfect way to salvage several cast off DOS machines .
. . if only I could get it to surf beyond the start page. And I was hoping
to give up Compuserve in favor of Freewwweb. I have searched every Arachne
help file and various installation notes posted on Compuserve forums and
other web sites. I have lurked this mail list for some time hoping to spy
some clue. Are Arachne-Digest discussions archived anywhere?
Steve
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:15:56 +0200
From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger & SuSe 6.0
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:53:37 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> From what I understand, AIM is just a program developed by AOL to compete
> with ICQ. It appears that AIM does just the same kind of thing as ICQ.
> A very fine DOS version of ICQ (called MICQ by its author) has been
> developed. I use it and it works great. Since we now have a DOS clone
> for ICQ, it would of course seem theoretically possible to write a similar
> DOS program for AIM. I sure would like to have such a program.
DOS-mICQ was based on the source-code of the mICQ ICQ clone for Linux,
which was open-source. So if somewhere someone have actually written
an open-source Linux clone for the AIM, or if anyone is bored enough
to sit down and monitor the transmittions of AIM to see what makes it
tick.. what can I say, have fun.
BTW
Speaking of which, anyone has by any chance the kernel config make-files
for SuSe Linux 6.0? I seem to have lost them. (make config, menuconfig
or xconfig didnt do anything. File search for these 3 files with
Midnight Commander said they're missing.)
Please answer to me directly since this is OT for the list..
Or Botton
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