arachne-digest Monday, February 21 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:48:35 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New to Arachne, and have questions On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:53:39 -000, Mike Millen wrote: > On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:14:41 +0000, Joe Caverly wrote: > GM>JC> The problem appears to be 4DOS. I use 4DOS.COM, version 6.02, > GMJC>instead of COMMAND.COM. > GM>Remove every occurrence of [nnn] in mime.cfg > GM> ;file/*.mes >HTM|[140]$einsight.exe -i $1 -cache=$t>$2 > GM> ; ^^^^^ ; > GM>These are the memory tests that don't seem to work when using 4DOS. > Alternatively get v1.6b1. > This version works perfectly with 4dos and a standard mime.cfg. > (For me, at least :) > Mike The strange thing is that for myself and a few others.... the [nnn] problem _first_ showed-up in v1.60b1 (I never had the problem before). (go figure.<g>) Since switching to EPPPDD.EXE loaded "high", the problem is gone even with the [nnn]s left as they were. The big advantage to using EPPPDD.EXE loaded high, Dos memory (kb) 139[+] green before connecting, and still Dos memory (kb) 139[+] green after connecting. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:24:36 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: "Any Browser" On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:30:08 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I subscribe to a couple of weekly type news/views le-tters and recently > noticed a change. It perhaps has to do with AOL 5.0 or ??? > Instead of putting links in in the "normal" way, they have been changed > to something like this: > <A Http://fillinthe.spaces.com "This is a link" /A><Click Here> > Since I'm trying to get a website up, which will consist primarily of > links, does anyone know if the blasted "<Click Here>" format is now > required by AOL software? The site I set up has to be usable by *any* > browser, including Mac & Apples On Landing. > Anyone have a definitive answer? Not-to-worry, that's just "normal" HTML. If we want to change these 2 words.... Click Here .... into a link. We place a line like this in the page. <a href="fillinthe.sapces.com"></a>Click Here "Click Here" becomes a link to "filinthe.spaces.com" BTW, this exapmle didn't show as a link in this eMail because Insight.exe only converts "http://fully_qualified" URLs into links. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:09:58 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: to encode, or not to encode (with apologies to William Shakespeare) [was Re: Virus Alert!] * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951080998 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > Sam Heywood, > Here is how your "attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file" came thru: > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > P.S. BTW, the attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file which > describes the program in Herr Muchsel's own words. > <snip> <snipped again> > The question is, why did an ASCII text file get encoded into a "base64" > encoded format? Roger, Because it didn't have the .txt file extension. IIRC, Arachne decides what to do based upon the file extension. (.TXT will not be encoded, .DIZ will be encoded) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951080998 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN ;name=file_id.txt Content-ID: arachne-namespace/\file_id.txt Content-Description: File "file_id.txt" (type TEXT/PLAIN, size 0 KB) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AMIsetup 2.99 - External Setup (AMI High Flex or WinBIOS required). If you ever considered your built-in setup as incomprehensible, boring, inconvenient or incomplete, you have been waiting for AMIsetup. AMIsetup can save your config to disk and restore it. You can even change setup options missing in your BIOS! AMIsetup cracks your password, auto-detects hard disks, prints a personal BIOS manual & much more. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951080998 Content-Type: application/octet-stream ;name=file_id.diz Content-ID: arachne-namespace/\file_id.diz Content-Description: File "file_id.diz" (type application/octet-stream, size 0 KB) Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 QU1Jc2V0dXAgMi45OSAtIEV4dGVybmFsIFNldHVwIChBTUkgSGlnaA0KRmxleCBvciBXaW5C SU9TIHJlcXVpcmVkKS4gSWYgeW91IGV2ZXINCmNvbnNpZGVyZWQgeW91ciBidWlsdC1pbiBz ZXR1cCBhcw0KaW5jb21wcmVoZW5zaWJsZSwgYm9yaW5nLCBpbmNvbnZlbmllbnQNCm9yIGlu Y29tcGxldGUsIHlvdSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gd2FpdGluZyBmb3INCkFNSXNldHVwLiBBTUlzZXR1 cCBjYW4gc2F2ZSB5b3VyIGNvbmZpZw0KdG8gZGlzayBhbmQgcmVzdG9yZSBpdC4gWW91IGNh biBldmVuDQpjaGFuZ2Ugc2V0dXAgb3B0aW9ucyBtaXNzaW5nIGluIHlvdXINCkJJT1MhIEFN SXNldHVwIGNyYWNrcyB5b3VyIHBhc3N3b3JkLA0KYXV0by1kZXRlY3RzIGhhcmQgZGlza3Ms IHByaW50cyBhDQpwZXJzb25hbCBCSU9TIG1hbnVhbCAmIG11Y2ggbW9yZS4NCgA= - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951080998-- � ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:04:04 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Can an IMAP server be used as a message board? Just because a thing *can* be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. <G> IMAP is not required to do all those wonderful things. The web based e-mail access programs do it also. Howsomever, there is no way to "protect" any such "reading list" from an accidental slip of the finger/mouse and messages meant to stay would then disappear forever. No download = no ppp.log = no backup. But as long as you can get an account set up somewhere, and that account can be accessed via MailStart or a similar program, and you are willing to share username/password, and someone trustworthy is found to clear out the old stuff and archive it for the guy who went to Egypt for 3 months without telling anyone . . . };> l.d. ==== On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:56:16 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Hi Folks - > Today I downloaded and installed a DOS version of Pine, PCP_WAT.ZIP. > For a packet driver I used EPPPD and NetDial and I got it running just > fine. I experimented with using Pine to access my messages on > pop.telebot.net and on mail.subdimension.com, both being IMAP servers. > I found that I could view messages while they were still on the server, > and I could even forward them and reply to them without even deleting > them from the server. Upon making these observations, it occurred to me > that an IMAP server might very well lend itself for use as a message board. > It would most indeed be possible to use an IMAP server for this purpose > if the system would allow several persons using the same user name and > password to login to an account on an IMAP server and read messages > intended for all. > Can this be done? Comments, anyone? > Sam Heywood > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:02:45 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: screwed attachments [ was Re: Virus Alert! Don't blame Sam. His attachment on my e-mail came through the way it was supposed to. But on mail from my oldest son, yesterday, I got the same type of "I ain't gonna convert this so take a look" treatment from Arachne. NOW what??!! And, to answer Roger's question -- Arachne had no way of knowing that DIZ is a text file! So it was encoded. Glenn, or ??? Where do we add a line designating *.DIZ as text?? l.d. ==== On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > Sam Heywood, > Here is how your "attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file" came thru: > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > P.S. BTW, the attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file which > describes the program in Herr Muchsel's own words. > <snip> > --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951059545 > Content-Type: application/octet-stream ;name=FILE_ID.DIZ > Content-ID: arachne-namespace/C:\AMISETUP\FILE_ID.DIZ > Content-Description: File "FILE_ID.DIZ" (type application/octet-stream, size 0 > KB) > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > QU1Jc2V0dXAgMi45OSAtIEV4dGVybmFsIFNldHVwIChBTUkgSGlnaA0KRmxleCBvciBXaW5C > SU9TIHJlcXVpcmVkKS4gSWYgeW91IGV2ZXINCmNvbnNpZGVyZWQgeW91ciBidWlsdC1pbiBz > ZXR1cCBhcw0KaW5jb21wcmVoZW5zaWJsZSwgYm9yaW5nLCBpbmNvbnZlbmllbnQNCm9yIGlu > Y29tcGxldGUsIHlvdSBoYXZlIGJlZW4gd2FpdGluZyBmb3INCkFNSXNldHVwLiBBTUlzZXR1 > cCBjYW4gc2F2ZSB5b3VyIGNvbmZpZw0KdG8gZGlzayBhbmQgcmVzdG9yZSBpdC4gWW91IGNh > biBldmVuDQpjaGFuZ2Ugc2V0dXAgb3B0aW9ucyBtaXNzaW5nIGluIHlvdXINCkJJT1MhIEFN > SXNldHVwIGNyYWNrcyB5b3VyIHBhc3N3b3JkLA0KYXV0by1kZXRlY3RzIGhhcmQgZGlza3Ms > IHByaW50cyBhDQpwZXJzb25hbCBCSU9TIG1hbnVhbCAmIG11Y2ggbW9yZS4NCg== > --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951059545-- > -- This mail written by a user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client� > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > The question is, why did an ASCII text file get encoded into a "base64" > encoded format? > Roger Turk > Tucson, Arizona - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:16:31 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: screwed attachments [ was Re: Virus Alert! On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 17:02:45 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > Don't blame Sam. > His attachment on my e-mail came through the way it was supposed to. > But on mail from my oldest son, yesterday, I got the same type of "I > ain't gonna convert this so take a look" treatment from Arachne. > NOW what??!! > And, to answer Roger's question -- Arachne had no way of knowing that > DIZ is a text file! So it was encoded. > Glenn, or ??? Where do we add a line designating *.DIZ as text?? > l.d. > ==== > On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: >> Sam Heywood, >> Here is how your "attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file" came thru: >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> P.S. BTW, the attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file which >> describes the program in Herr Muchsel's own words. >> <snip> <snipped encoded text file> >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> The question is, why did an ASCII text file get encoded into a "base64" >> encoded format? Very good question. I took a look at this message before I sent it. While it was still in my outbox, I clicked on the ikon representing the attachment, and it opened and displayed just like any other text attachment. Sam Heywood ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:12:10 -0600 From: "BRIAN RENFROW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OK OK Ok Ok. I apologize for my sudden outburst of something I should have most likely thouht about a little longer. Maybe I acted a little to quickly and should have thought about it a little longer. I do however am very thankful for the help I did recieve. Thanks to all who did help. In the future I will take any "pokes" as just that, pokes. No harm no foul. Thanks everyone. Of course you do have to admit that if I'm interested in Arachne, I can't be all that bad........... Brian D. Renfrow ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:16:27 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: to encode, or not to encode (with apologies to William Shakespeare) [was Re: Virus Alert!] On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:09:58 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: >> Sam Heywood, >> Here is how your "attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file" came thru: >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >> P.S. BTW, the attached file, FILE_ID.DIZ is an ascii text file which >> describes the program in Herr Muchsel's own words. >> <snip> > <snipped again> >> The question is, why did an ASCII text file get encoded into a "base64" >> encoded format? > Roger, > Because it didn't have the .txt file extension. > IIRC, Arachne decides what to do based upon the file extension. > (.TXT will not be encoded, .DIZ will be encoded) > -- <snip> > [Attached file: file_id.txt] (File "file_id.txt" (type TEXT/PLAIN, size 0 KB)) > [Attached file: file_id.diz] (File "file_id.diz" (type application/octet-stream, >size 0 KB)) At my end, I retrieved Glenn's message with both of the above files represented by ikons. By clicking on either one of them, they would display as normal text files. I remember back a couple of years ago I used Arachne to send a JPG image file as an attachment to an email message having my brother and my two sisters named as multiple recipients. One of my sisters uses a Mac, the other uses a Windows 95 machine. They received the attachment represented as an ikon, and they clicked on it, and voil�, the image was displayed. My brother has also a Windows 95 machine, but he uses an email program that is different from that used by my sister. He received the attachment as though it were an encoded appended file. No ikon. Here is another interesting observation about attachments and another DOS email program: I can send a UUENCODED binary file with NetTamer. If the recipient has a Windows CE device, or if he has Windows 95, then he will receive the file represented as an ikon, and he can open it simply by clicking on it. I don't know what would happen if I were to use NetTamer to send a UUENCODED file to an Arachne user. It would be an interesting experiment. In using NetTamer to send binary files, the outgoing message always appears as an appended encoded file. No ikon. Somewhere along the transmission and retrieval process the file becomes represented as an ikon. It is all a great mystery to me how this all happens, but somehow the system does work. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:09:28 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OK OK BRIAN RENFROW wrote: > > Ok Ok. Of course you do have to admit that if I'm interested in Arachne, > I can't be all that bad........... Yup. That seems to compute. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:14:12 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: epppdd.exe * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951099253 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello all, I tried to substitute epppdd.exe(from my Netdial 1.3)in place of Arachne's epppd.exe in my arachne.cfg: - ------------------------ Connection @LH EPPPDD.EXE>>PPP.LOG - ------------------------ It loaded EPPPDD high, but didn't connect. In fact, all I got was the bottom bar of Arachne, and the rest of the screen was black. I believe I saw a post from Glenn where he was using EPPPDD. It works in my Netdial 1.3 - Arachne 1.60 combo, but not in the regular Arachne setup. I believe the output of epppdd swamped arachne's PPP.LOG, and that kept things from working normally. I tried redirecting the output like this: - ----------------------- Connection @LH EPPPDD.EXE -d >output.txt - ----------------------- But there is still more output that won't redirect, and would wind up on the screen as it does in Netdial 1.3, and that was more than Arachne could handle. Same result, epppdd loaded high, but no connection to the internet. I'm just trying epppdd to see what will happen, and I gathered from Glenn's post that it's possible to use it. - ---------------------- I'm using IP_Address BOOTP since I am loading high. - ------ Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- - -- Tandy 4850EP 486DX2-50 8MB RAM -- -- Hayes Accura 14.4 Modem -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ [Attached file: output.txt] - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951099253 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN ;name=output.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sent [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4f214ad> <pcomp> <accomp>] fsm_sdata(LCP): Sent code 1, id 1. Timeout 49f3:295a in 3 seconds. LCP: sending Configure-Request, id 1 rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x1 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp> < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 72 33 21>] fsm_rconfreq(LCP): Rcvd id 1. lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU (1524) (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP (a0000) (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd unknown option 19 (REJ) lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ. sent [LCP ConfRej id=3D0x1 < 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 72 33 21>] fsm_sdata(LCP): Sent code 4, id 1. rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=3D0x1 <mru 1500> <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x4f214ad> <pcomp> <accomp>] fsm_rconfack(LCP): Rcvd id 1. rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=3D0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>] fsm_rconfreq(LCP): Rcvd id 2. lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU (1524) (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP (a0000) (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION (ACK) lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION (ACK) lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK. sent [LCP ConfAck id=3D0x2 <mru 1524> <asyncmap 0xa0000> <pcomp> <accomp>] fsm_sdata(LCP): Sent code 2, id 2. Untimeout 49f3:295a. sent [IPCP ConfReq id=3D0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0>] fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 1, id 1. Timeout 49f3:28bc in 3 seconds. IPCP: sending Configure-Request, id 1 rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=3D0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01> <addr 206.156.254.1>] fsm_rconfreq(IPCP): Rcvd id 1. ipcp_reqci: received COMPRESSTYPE (45) (REJ) ipcp_reqci: received ADDR (206.156.254.1) (ACK) ipcp_reqci: returning Configure-REJ sent [IPCP ConfRej id=3D0x1 <compress VJ 0f 01>] fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 4, id 1. rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=3D0x1 <addr 208.149.78.73>] fsm_rconfnakrej(IPCP): Rcvd id 1. local IP address 208.149.78.73 Untimeout 49f3:28bc. sent [IPCP ConfReq id=3D0x2 <addr 208.149.78.73>] fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 1, id 2. Timeout 49f3:28bc in 3 seconds. IPCP: sending Configure-Request, id 2 rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=3D0x2 <addr 206.156.254.1>] fsm_rconfreq(IPCP): Rcvd id 2. ipcp_reqci: received ADDR (206.156.254.1) (ACK) ipcp_reqci: returning Configure-ACK sent [IPCP ConfAck id=3D0x2 <addr 206.156.254.1>] fsm_sdata(IPCP): Sent code 2, id 2. rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=3D0x2 <addr 208.149.78.73>] fsm_rconfack(IPCP): Rcvd id 2. Untimeout 49f3:28bc. ipcp: up sifaddr ppp0: local 208.149.78.73, remote 206.156.254.1, netmask 224.0.0.0. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951099253-- � ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:01:01 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: epppdd.exe On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:14:12 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote: > Hello all, > I tried to substitute epppdd.exe(from my Netdial 1.3)in place of > Arachne's epppd.exe in my arachne.cfg: > ------------------------ > Connection @LH EPPPDD.EXE>>PPP.LOG > ------------------------ Try this instead: Connection @lh epppdd.exe>PPP.LOG (redirect/overwrite instead of redirect/append) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:03:24 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: to encode, or not to encode (with ap Sam Heywood wrote: >>At my end, I retrieved Glenn's message with both of the above files represented by ikons. By clicking on either one of them, they would display as normal text files. I remember back a couple of years ago I used Arachne to send a JPG image file as an attachment to an email message having my brother and my two sisters named as multiple recipients. One of my sisters uses a Mac, the other uses a Windows 95 machine. They received the attachment represented as an ikon, and they clicked on it, and voil , the image was displayed. My brother has also a Windows 95 machine, but he uses an email program that is different from that used by my sister. He received the attachment as though it were an encoded appended file. No ikon. Here is another interesting observation about attachments and another DOS email program: I can send a UUENCODED binary file with NetTamer. If the recipient has a Windows CE device, or if he has Windows 95, then he will receive the file represented as an ikon, and he can open it simply by clicking on it. I don't know what would happen if I were to use NetTamer to send a UUENCODED file to an Arachne user. It would be an interesting experiment. In using NetTamer to send binary files, the outgoing message always appears as an appended encoded file. No ikon. Somewhere along the transmission and retrieval process the file becomes represented as an ikon. It is all a great mystery to me how this all happens, but somehow the system does work.<< Sam, I have sent UUencoded files as attachments to people and they arrived as separate messages, still encoded. I made sure that the extension was .UUE so that they could be identified as UUencoded files by the recipients e-mail program. I also tried sending base64 encoded files (with extension .B64) with the same results. Typically, the recipients didn't have the foggiest idea of what to do with them. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA P.S. I just received *another* message (not from the list) that had a base64 encoded attachment enclosed as part of the message. This is only the second message that I have received that way and it might be something that Compuserve is doing. I will have to start watching another list service that I subscribe to and see what happens there as most of those subscribers are (shudder!) Windoze users and some don't have "attach HTML" shut off on their e-mail programs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:03:18 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: screwed attachments [ was Re: Virus Glenn, L.D., and Sam Heywood, I will typically receive attachments, regardless of whether they are ASCII text, HTML or BINARY, as a separate file. In fact, Sam Heywood's post was the first message that I ever received that had the attachment included as part of the message. Because it was part of the message, I assumed that Sam had copied and pasted the text file into the message and was perplexed how that action could have caused the file to be encoded. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Roger, Because it didn't have the .txt file extension. IIRC, Arachne decides what to do based upon the file extension. (.TXT will not be encoded, .DIZ will be encoded) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ========================= End Part 1 / Begin Part 2 ========================== Topic: File "file_id.txt" (type TEXT/PLAIN, size 0 KB) Format: ASCII Name: file_id.txt AMIsetup 2.99 - External Setup (AMI High Flex or WinBIOS required). If you ever considered your built-in setup as incomprehensible, boring, inconvenient or incomplete, you have been waiting for AMIsetup. AMIsetup can save your config to disk and restore it. You can even change setup options missing in your BIOS! AMIsetup cracks your password, auto-detects hard disks, prints a personal BIOS manual & much more. ========================= End Part 2 / Begin Part 3 ========================== Topic: File "file_id.diz" (type application/octet-stream, size 0 KB) Format: BINARY Name: file_id.diz % Part 3 is binary ================================= End Part 3 ================================= << L.D. Best wrote: >>Don't blame Sam. His attachment on my e-mail came through the way it was supposed to. But on mail from my oldest son, yesterday, I got the same type of "I ain't gonna convert this so take a look" treatment from Arachne. NOW what??!! And, to answer Roger's question -- Arachne had no way of knowing that DIZ is a text file! So it was encoded. Glenn, or ??? Where do we add a line designating *.DIZ as text??<< Sam Heywood wrote: >>Very good question. I took a look at this message before I sent it. While it was still in my outbox, I clicked on the ikon representing the attachment, and it opened and displayed just like any other text attachment.<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:27:12 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OK OK On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:12:10 -0600, BRIAN RENFROW wrote: > Ok Ok. I apologize for my sudden outburst of something I should have most > I can't be all that bad........... .....that's the stuff, Brian ......beautiful return shot.....!!!! ...you're getting the hang of it already.....<g g g> .........gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:39:22 From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: O.T. http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,34262,00.html Hi Arachnids, I thought you all might want to read about M$'s latest copy protection/privacy invasion plans for Windows 2K. Regards, Dale Mentzer ------- Forwarded Message Follows -- From Wired News, available online at: http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,34262,00.html Microsoft's Protective Policy by Christopher Jones 3:00 a.m. 11.Feb.2000 PST The release of Windows and Office 2000 mark Microsoft's strongest anti-piracy effort to date, but privacy advocates caution that new registration procedures may have been designed to do more than thwart counterfeiters. The new Windows and Office 2000 CDs, due out next week, have an edge-to-edge hologram and a new process requiring users to register their software. Read ongoing US v. Microsoft coverage Infostructure strengthens your backbone "The [etching] process is so complex and complicated that the slightest mistake ... could cause damage to the code. So that will make it really difficult and expensive for counterfeiters to do," said Jackie Carriker, group manager for worldwide anti-piracy marketing at Microsoft. A second layer of protection is the certificate of authenticity, or registration tag, which OEMs and system builders will be required to attach to the specific PC where Windows or Office is installed. When users boot up the Office 2000 software for the first time on a machine, the registration wizard will require them to contact Microsoft -- via the Internet, email, phone, fax, or snail mail -- and get the second half of a registration key that matches their software certificate. If this registration process isn't completed, the software will stop working after it's been launched 50 times. The registration key will only allow users to install the Windows software on one machine, and Office on two machines. There will be no such restrictions, however, for network managers and others who buy licenses which permit multiple installations. Privacy advocates suggest that Microsoft's new registration process may help prevent piracy, but may also help the company gain a tighter grip on markets they already dominate. Last March, privacy advocates cried foul over Microsoft's registration process, which they said the company could use to collect information about users' Web surfing habits without their knowledge. Carriker said that users will only be required to give their registration code and the country they reside in to activate the Office software, and any other information will be on a voluntary basis. Jason Catlett, president of consumer privacy group Junkbusters said that users should always be cautious about providing any personal information when they register software. "Where it's going is a lot more leverage for Microsoft and a lot less privacy. I basically deeply distrust Microsoft because of their record on privacy, and don't like the idea of them associating each license with a name and having a registration procedure to authenticate each time," Catlett said. "Their motivation is stopping software theft, and I donAEt deny that's a legitimate concern, but if they're grabbing personal information at the same time, that should be questioned and resisted." Software pirating primarily includes end users passing disks to friends, software being mischanneled, or redistributed against the terms of a license, and counterfeiting. The new protections built into the Microsoft disks are primarily meant to cut down on counterfeit copies. "We see the prevalence of organized crime syndicates engaged in counterfeiting," Carriker said, holding up a counterfeit copy of Microsoft Office, which has all the documentation included and looks virtually identical to a legitimate copy. "We had a case in the Seattle area where there was a couple who were copying 1,500 copies of Office a day in their apartment. So it goes from these organized crime syndicates to small-time operators," Carriker said. The Business Software Alliance estimates that companies lose $11 billion in annual revenue due to software piracy. In addition to the fly-by-night Web sites and email offers that deal in cut-rate, counterfeit software, there is an abundance of auction sites where fake goods are sold. The Software & Information Industry Association did a test study recently on Internet auction sites, and found that about 60 percent of the software distributed there was counterfeit. When Microsoft did a similar study, Carriker said, they found that 90 percent of the products were counterfeited. In 1999, Microsoft confiscated 4.3 million units of counterfeit software, Carriker said. Even with the new holograms and registration process, it appears that Microsoft will have its work cut out stopping illegal copies of Windows 2000 from circulating. "We saw [counterfeit copies of] Windows 2000 out quite a bit before it was released to manufacturing, selling for $1.50 to $400," Carriker said. "In January alone, we shut down 100 sites that were distributing Windows 2000." [This story has been modified from its original version to clarify a point on the Windows 2000 registration process. Users will not be required to contact Microsoft when they register the software -- that is only the case with the Office software.] Related Wired Links: Copy-Protected CDs Taken Back 3.Feb.2000 Microsoft Sues Online Pirates 8.Dec.1999 Is Microsoft Tracking Visitors? 12.Mar.1999 Sniffing Out MS Security Glitch 8.Mar.1999 Advocate Issues Windows Warning 4.Mar.1999 Copyright 1994-99 Wired Digital Inc. 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