arachne-digest Tuesday, February 29 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1018 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:43:46 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: More errors On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:48:01 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I have NO idea what went wrong between early this morning and this > afternoon. But I am not the cause of the problem, nor is my system. I > can even access [shudderrrrrr] WIN3.1 and run programs, but InSight > can't open files that are there in plain sight. :< > l.d. - -------------- L.D., The "no buttons" item rings a bell, but I have misplaced the posts (well, lost it) on it. It's happened before to someone on the list, maybe someone who keeps printed copies of the "keeper" posts will have something useful on it. - --------- Now for the fun part: I presume that this is a tamed-down and "for off-road use only" installation of WIN 3.1<g>. We all have one of those in the closet somewhere.<vbg> Seriously though, Most older computers let you make backup copies of DOS and WIN 3.1, otherwise I would not have them at all to use now. My DOS 6.21 backups let me format HDD's and get them ready for Arachne installations. The WIN 98 machines that are being sold now won't do any of that, and if the original owner loses the CDROM, then a subsequent owner of the computer is out of luck making any changes. I had that happen on a network WIN95 HDD, and couldn't get TCP/IP for it without the CDROM, so had to send it to the "format room".<g> - --- Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- IBM PS/1 Evergreen 586 -- - -- 32 MB RAM -- - -- Quantum 410 MB HDD -- - -- USR Sportster 14.4 Modem -- - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:31:01 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: More errors L.D. Best wrote: > > > All the 3 installations had two things in common: > > 1. InBox DGI created the index, and updated after any deletions, > either "right click DEL" or "trash"; > > 2. When viewing the mail there were no buttons for INDEX, previous > message, or next message. Hi L.D.; Item #2 above seems remarkably similar to a problem I had. 1) Check for the presence of a TEMP=DRV:\Path in your environment. 2) Check that it exists. You may have changed something. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:33:55 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: More errors On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:48:01 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: <snipped his comments about problems in using Arachne's Insight email> Hello L.D.: Once in a while, but very rarely, I have experienced some of the problems you have described here and in your other recent posts on the subject. None of the problems I've had along these lines produced any symtoms of memory related problems however. They never had anything to do with whether I was online or offline. I always find that the cause of the problem has something to do with the formattting of the original ".CNM" file, as received. I suggest that you examine the message with a text editor. You will probably find improperly formatted headers, or very long lines requiring you to scroll right for several screen widths. I'll bet the problem is in the message, and not in Arachne. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 03:57:06 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: More on errors :< Clarence, Sam & a couple of other people ... TEMP is in the environment, and the directory exists. It doesn't matter which .cnm file I access, the missing buttons and inability to "find template reply.htp" are a persistent and repeating problem. No changes have been made to the system since everything was last working ~24 hours ago. I can send & receive mail just fine. I can browse the web or do searches with no problem whatsoever. The hotlist works, and I can read my mail with no problem. But I cannot reply to mail, nor can I forward it [same template handles both, which explains why original sender's e-dress is always in the "mailto" field]. Nor can I move from one message to the next, or back a message ... since the buttons are all gone byebye. The HDD has been optimized, Norton Disk Doctor says everything is in fine shape, the files are there. It's enough to drive me up the walls ... and I have enough other stuff already doing that to me -- I don't need this! MRS. l.d. };> - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:13:46 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: *Something* must be different?? The only thing which is different is the behavior of InSight. I put off installing new HDD, installing NIC & cable modem, splitting to multi-OS setup on the system ... because I was waiting for v1.6 What it is in InSight I can't say. But whatever it is, it is in the file as included in 1.6 ... cuz I went to the downloaded file and totally installed a new setup of Arachne from it. And InSight had problems with that setup too. CMOS hasn't been changed, because that is password protected -- and because my son knows he'd be out in the street on his donkey if he tried to screw around with that sort of thing. Newest version of F-Prot said active memory and everything on Internet I: drive was clean. I tried it without ncache, and went back to using ncache, and the result was the same: I can't reply to mail, the index & move buttons are missing. Even the date hadn't changed between when it was working and when it stopped working. And the 'can't reply' problem is not just within InBox ... it is also all the other mail folders. :~( - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:53:27 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PC-Pine for DOS doesn't like NWCACHE RM> UKA_PPP is for offline use !!! RM> PINE is for online use ... Ricsi, How do you say UKA_PPP is for offline use? UKA_PPP sends (SMTP) and receives (POP3) email, and sends and receives news messages. That's online! Other goodies in the UKA_PPP package, such as HTGET and FTP, also work online. RM> It only loads the HEADERS of the messages. RM> If you want to read the message, you press enter, and that message is RM> loaded. That sounds like IMAP as opposed to POP3. Most Internet users can't use IMAP. Bluegrass Net supported IMAP for a time, then discontinued because of security problems. I suppose, since PINE is open-source, that conceivably one could get the source for 3.96 and 4.21, and compile 4.21 for DOS. If that were easy, presumably they would have done it at the University of Washington. If one knows the newsgroups of interest with DOS-PINE and does not have to search, then DOS-PINE has no problem with memory? What if the download is > 400 KB? Is that put in memory or directly downloaded to disk? But then why can't the full list of newsgroups be downloaded direct to disk, instead of overloading memory? Maybe Arachne could use a news module, as well as more orderly file naming for downloaded email messages? Thomas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:30:38 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: history list growing by leaps and bounds - -Hi all, > Glenn wrote: > My history list is getting very large--some 260 entries totalling over > 12000 bytes. I don't want to del it entirely. Is there some way to > limit its size within Arachne, or must I use a text editor? - - cb replied: - -There were some good suggestions, but you can also compile your own HOTLSMAN.EXE! - -(If you want to.. ;) Download the source for the gnupyrighted parts of Arachne - -from http://gnu.arachne.cz . A free C-compiler can be found at http://www.borland.com) - -file: /src/hotlsman/hotlsman.c - -line 8: #define MAXITEMS 512 <<---- that's the default value, just change it and - - compile it new I located both CACHE.IDX and HISTORY.LST in my CACHE. Everytime before I start Arachne I delete everything in the CACHE and also in my TEMP directory, which currently is C:\WINDOWS/TEMP, because of stupid Windows installation programs. All I do is execute ECHO Y|DEL CACHE\*.* and the same to my TEMP directory. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 01:40:36 +0100 From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: digest archives Dne Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:05:20 -0500, Glenn McCorkle napsal: > I've been trying to find an easier way of getting the > arachne-digest archives. > None of these worked...<g> > http://home.arachne.cz/mail/ > http://home.arachne.cz/arachne-digest/ > http://home.arachne.cz/digest/ > ftp://home.arachne.cz/pub/arachne-digest/ > ftp://home.arachne.cz/arachne-digest/ > ftp://home.arachne.cz/pub/ > ftp://home.arachne.cz/ It is http://home.aracne.cz/archive/ Sorry for not publishing it on Arachne website - it is currently under reconstruction. - -- Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne Labs: http://arachne.cz/ My mobile phone - up to 160 characters: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:36:06 +0100 (CET) From: Cliff Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Inline Attachments and Insight On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 some message from Glenn McCorkle appeared before me saying, >> --------------366E9BA7933FD9EA785993EA >> Content-Type: image/jpeg >> Content-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 >> Content-Disposition: inline; filename="C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\nsmailRS.jpeg" > >> Is that file name & path from the sender's computer or intended for the >> recipient's computer? If intended for the recipient's computer, it won't work >> on Mac, Linux, OS/2, DOS, BeOS, and not always on Windows. Sometimes the main >> Windows directory might have another name, like WINNT for an NT system? It >> would be interesting to see how and if Linux/Unix interprets such a file name. > >OK, Let's see if we can figure this thing-out...<g> According to RFC's only the filename should be put in the Content-Disposition header. Oh, BTW, i am back on the arachne list after about a year of absence ;) - -- Met vriendelijke groet, Cliff Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:30:33 +0100 (CET) From: Cliff Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dead...!!..??? On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 some message from Gregory J. Feig appeared before me saying, >> Maybe we should all stop using v1.60b1 and go back to v0.9 >> At least then we'de have some bugs to comment on.<vbg> > >Glenn ......no, it was down for about 10-12 hours....my mailserver >sent me several warnings about "undeliverable" of that "Dead...!!!.." >message....but this evening, I checked and it's now back up.... It seemed that ns.arachne.cz had a load of about 34, because of some user at the machine (i say no names) had a little bug in his program, that got in a loop, hogging sendmail and apache.. - -- Met vriendelijke groet, Cliff Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:38:01 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: PC-Pine for DOS doesn't like NWCACHE Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RM>> UKA_PPP is for offline use !!! RM>> PINE is for online use ... t> How do you say UKA_PPP is for offline use? UKA_PPP sends (SMTP) and t> receives (POP3) email, and sends and receives news messages. Yes ... but the messages you want to send are prepared. UKA_PPP sends them in a batch, receives messages waiting for retrieval, and ready. PINE doesn't send and receive all messages at once. Instead you can choose which message you want to read, and this particular message is retrieved. So with PINE you war ONLINE while reading, and with UKA_PPP you don't have to. (so Pine is 'Online', und UKA_PPP is 'offline' :) RM>> It only loads the HEADERS of the messages. RM>> If you want to read the message, you press enter, and that message RM>> is loaded. t> That sounds like IMAP as opposed to POP3. Most Internet users can't t> use IMAP. Bluegrass Net supported IMAP for a time, then discontinued t> because of security problems. There are no additional security reasons ! The reason why so few servers support IMAP is, that it uses more diskspace. (people often leave Mail on the server, with POP3 they are forced to download it, and usually delete it on the server) t> If one knows the newsgroups of interest with DOS-PINE and does not t> have to search, then DOS-PINE has no problem with memory? No t> What if the download is 400 KB? Is that put in memory or directly t> downloaded to disk? Attachments directly to disk IMHO Text goes to memory ... but I haven't had problems with this .. t> But then why can't the full list of newsgroups be downloaded direct to t> disk, instead of overloading memory? Ask the author, and not me :) t> Thomas Mueller CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> It is when you take for yourself that you truly take <=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:28:26 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kak virus J J Young wrote: >The Kak worm is transmitted by HTML mail and only affects 32-bit Windows. I seriously doubt that this can in fact be true. It may be that it's an ActiveX script that can affect M$ Outlook, is that what you are refering to? HTML has the same chances of transporting a virus as opening a ASCII file in an editor (such as notepad). I recently recieved a mail from someone on the tech staff at my university stating that a certain e-mail virus that only affects PCs was out - I replied that it was probably not true and that it with a 99,99% chance only affected people that were stupid enough to use M$ Outlook despite all the warnings that tend to come on a regular basis. I never did get a reply back from him (I've never got any answer from the tech staff). Besides, isn't the name for these things "worms"? //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:28:18 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cache size [*NOT* Re: Arachne load error] L.D wrote: >Thomas is correct. No, he's not ;-) >The only limit on number of files in cache that Michael has in the >software is a top limit of 256 on the *report* of number of files in >cache. <G> I'm sorry but when I've used Arachne the limit has been 256 items in the cache directory. You'll need to double that value for the .htp files as well. >A full cache has never caused me to crash. Lots of *other* things have, >over the dozen or so versions I've run [or attempted to run in the >earlier days], but never the cache being too full. Superfull cache can >slow things down, with software having to sort through the index to find >what it's looking for. To me it removes the older files as new come in after getting over 256 files. //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:28:17 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: More errors L.D wrote: >I have NO idea what went wrong between early this morning and this >afternoon. But I am not the cause of the problem, nor is my system. I >can even access [shudderrrrrr] WIN3.1 and run programs, but InSight >can't open files that are there in plain sight. :< To me it sounds as you have changed the value of files= in config.sys, are you sure you didn't change anything in config.sys/autoexec.bat ? //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:04:32 +0100 From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fixed 16color VGA, EGA, CGA I have just fixed broken 16 color EGA/16 color VGA support in Arachne level 1.60 code. I am getting closer to 1.60 beta, I want mainly to add copy&paste code, but it is so - so - boring :-( - -- Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne Labs: http://arachne.cz/ My mobile phone - up to 160 characters: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:57:54 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Inline Attachments and Insight On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:36:06 +0100 (CET), Cliff Albert wrote: > According to RFC's only the filename should be put in the > Content-Disposition header. Ain't it "fun" reading through all of those RFCs?<g> > Oh, BTW, i am back on the arachne list after about a year of absence ;) Welcome back Cliff. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:09:24 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: digest archives On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 01:40:36 +0100, Michael Polak wrote: > It is http://home.aracne.cz/archive/ > Sorry for not publishing it on Arachne website - it is currently under > reconstruction. Thank you. But, shouldn't there be an "h" between the "c" and the "n" ???<g> http://home.arachne.cz/archive/ I'll D/L all of them very soon. uh,oh, got 550 and 551 but then.... Forbidden You don't have permission to access /archive/v01.n552 on this server. (tried several more with the same results) - ------------ Those file permission settings in Linux _can_ be a pain sometimes.<g> - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:50:08 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: *Something* must be different?? On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:13:46 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > And the 'can't reply' problem is not just within InBox ... it is also > all the other mail folders. Does your "cache" directory exist? Do you have Cache2Temp Yes? Or is it No? Did you inadvertantly change the "files" line in config.sys How about the "buffers" line? Do you have enough environment space? Try using 1024 bytes..... SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM C:\ /E:1024 /P "Something _is_ different". The question still remains... "What _is_ that something"???<g> - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:29:17 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: *Something* must be different?? Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:13:46 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > > > And the 'can't reply' problem is not just within InBox ... it is also > > all the other mail folders. > <>----- > "Something _is_ different". > > The question still remains... "What _is_ that something"???<g> Yes. I have found that when I can't find the source of a problem I'm usually looking in the wrong place. <G> And usually, it's because I have decided that I didn't go anywhere near this or that. (Where the problem REALLY is.) i.e. I'll re-examine a perfectly good piece of code I have just changed for days after my program gets buggered before finding I started with the wrong version - or something totally unexpected like that. That's the way it works with ME, anyway. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:51:57 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kak virus On 28/02/00 Bernie wrote: >J J Young wrote: >>The Kak worm is transmitted by HTML mail and only affects 32-bit Windows. > >I seriously doubt that this can in fact be true. It may be that it's an >ActiveX script that can affect M$ Outlook, is that what you are referring >to? HTML has the same chances of transporting a virus as opening an >ASCII file in an editor (such as notepad). - -- I don't particularly care! Because: a) It's considered benign b) It doesn't affect the OS I use c) I'm not a sys admin or anti-virus professional d) It's occurrence has been of net benefit to me e) There are more important things to be concerned about. I am sure anyone with sufficient interest can do their own research. Here are some pointers (neither of which I've checked): http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-032.asp http://www.sprufc.co.uk/kak.htm >only affected people that were stupid enough to use M$ Outlook >despite all the warnings that tend to come on a regular basis. - -- Yep, the combination of 32-bit Windows with Outlook is, I think the necessary combination. But it's Windows that gets the infection. If it is an ActiveX script it still needs the package of an HTML-format mail. "Coughs and sneezes spread diseases" -- the general population is aware of the delivery-mode and doesn't look at the microscopic level. >Besides, isn't the name for these things "worms"? - -- That term was used (3rd word you quoted). I suppose if you want to get a "normal" person to use AV you should liberally use the term "virus" rather than "worm", much like using "hacker" rather than "cracker". Conversational use of language often seems contrary to the strictly defined use in science/mathematics/engineering/medicine etc. Regards, Jake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:52:34 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Virus Problems The first virus I found on my system was on a floppy. One of the Stonedxxx versions. Then I ran McAfee's SCAN86 v4.0.2 and found my whole system including many floppies were infected with the Fantasm.1000 virus. Now I just downloaded, installed and ran McAfee's SCANPM v3.2.2 and found my hard drives so far completly infected with the _1000 virus. I'd like to know where all these viruses are coming from. I don't have any records of who I sent files to, I know there's been a few. If you remember check them. If there there, believe me it wasn't done intentionally. I never used to worry about viruses and I guess I should have. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 03:12:08 From: Van Voordturen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Arachne on TV - How it looked like >Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:46:52 +0200 >From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Arachne on TV - How it looked like > >Hi. >I've managed to get a VGA-to-TV convertor (etleast!), and I have >connected my P350 to the TV to see how Arachne will look like. >(I know that the P350 is not a slow SurvPC machine, but I got >PC-DOS 2000 fully configured over there and it can run everything. >No windows-only device anywhere.). As I have expected, the picture was >abit blurry. The fonts were hard to see.. I tried to use the biggest >system font and HTML font scaling availble, but things still looked >abit weird. The resolution of the TV is indeed very lousy when you >get to see how direct computer graphics look on it. Infact, even in >the lowest resolution Arachne still looked abit hard to understand. > >I remember that DR-WebSpyder had a direct "for TV" visual setting >option. I want to try it. If it will look more clearer, maybe Michael >can get some ideas about how to add a "TV visual setup" for Arachne. :) > I've been experimenting with my TV too, using some familiar looking output channel on a hercules/cga card (one with a switch on it for mda/cga). It's results always looked scrambled, and (of course) promised cga resolution if it would ever get stable. Yet my Commodore 64 taught me what tv can do... (and 64 kB too, for that matter). What hardware is a vga to tv converter? Bart? ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1018 ******************************
