arachne-digest        Wednesday, March 1 2000        Volume 01 : Number 1020




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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:27:47 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cache size

Bernie,

I don't know what the problem was that you had downloading that book.
The size of the cache is separate from the number of entries in the
cache.  i.e. You can have 1 entry in cache that is 15 Mbytes [if you
have that much room on your HDD, which you apparently do] or 256+
entries that total 1.5 Mb.

Are you saying that the book had over 1,000 "chapters" you had to
download separately?  Wow!

I just went and checked my cache vs. cache index; cache itself has 469
files in it.  Cache index lists 274 files within 256 entries.

IOW, cache can hold more than 256 files ... but unless you know what
you're looking for you may not be able to find it since index stops
keeping track at 256 entries [each entry is rather complex and can show
URL, file name, modified file name, etc].

Norton "unerase" allows me to see files that have been deleted, and
often I can view within the files that have been deleted.  But when a 
file is rewritten [like cache.idx] all that is ever there is current 
file.

If you ever tackle a project like that again, I suggest you save the
file to a separate drive when given the save option.  And after a few
downloads, while looking at the page you want to continue to access, you
hit F8 and clear the cache.  If you save the files as they are
downloaded, you don't have to keep the duplicate file in cache.

l.d.
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:52:55 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>> Be honest.  Have you ever gone outside Arachne, and counted the
>> entries in Cache directory?

> I have, I downloaded the entire e-book entitled Art of Assembly. To be able
> to store it all in the cache I had to download it in two seperate attempts
> (I did copy it in four diffrent caches since that made it easier to know
> where in the book I was).

>> I more or less have .. since Norton
>> Commander makes it very easy for me to see just how many files are in
>> there.  Nothing has ever automatically removed those files.  Now, I
>> *haven't* counted the number of entries in cache.idx file ... *that* may
>> be what's limited to 256 entries.  I'll have to remember to check it
>> some day. <G>

> But doesn't Norton also show you the files that are removed? IIRC it can do
> that.
> //Bernie
> http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:04:05 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It makes no sense ...

Willy,

You may have seen my message where I finally got InSight running again.

But thought I'd mention something to you ...

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:37:49 +0100, W. J. Hoogstraten wrote:
<snip>
> BTW: make environment bigger than 1024 bytes if you can effort some
> conventional memory (eg. shell=C:\command.com C:\ /E:2048 /P ).
> For me (I love using the environment), 4096 bytes sounds good.


Memory set aside for environment is taken from above 640K so could
prevent Loading High something you wanted to put there.  If you've
experimented with loading things high and they wouldn't quite fit, try
dropping to /E:1024 and see if it helps.

No matter how hard we try, when we 'rob Peter to pay Paul' we always
seem to be in trouble. <G>

l.d.
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:18:31 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It makes no sense ...

It made no sense, and it makes even less sense now.

I checked everything, including files & buffers.  Files were set to 59
and buffers to 17.  But InSight wouldn't work.

If you were a windoze victim, what I tell you next would probably seem
sensible.  But as a DOS user, you ain't gonna believe this one!

1.  As I'd previously written, the only change I'd made was to the path
statement, shortening it by removing the doze3.1 directory from path.

2.  Previously I had used a called batch file to place the path statement
[including doz] in the environment.  But when I shortened the path, I
simply put the path statement into the autexec segment for web crawling.

3.  As I mentioned before, I thought maybe [why wasn't any
consideration] there was something in the doze directory that InSight
needed -- so I added that directory back onto the end of the path
statement in autexec.  And, as previously mentioned, putting doze back
into path didn't make InSight run any better.

4.  Today I solved the problem, and the solution makes even less sense
than the problem did in the first place.  I went back to using the
called batch file for putting PATH statement in environment ...
BUT HERE'S THE KICKER: InSight didn't work until I put that call back
into autoexec at *exactly* the same line where I'd removed it!!!

At the end of this missive is that segment of autoexec.bat -- with 
notes at the various path locations that were used/tried/etc.

If anyone can figure out WHY this should happen, please let all of us in
on the secret ... <sigh>

l.d.

P.S. I use DOS 5.0

- ----Web Crawl portion of autexec.bat--------[I use multi-boot config]
    @ECHO OFF
    CLS
    SET COMSPEC=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM
    CALL C:\DOS\ROOTS.BAT
    CALL C:\DOS\OLDPROMP.BAT
REM    call c:\dos\repath  'This is where CALL was originally placed; if
                           'it is in *this* position, InSight works.
   P:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM/2 >NUL
   P:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES=59 >NUL
   C:\DOS\BE SA BRIGHT CYAN ON BLUE
rem  PATH=C:\DOS;P:\QEMM;P:\dv;P:\COBOL;e:\fax;C:\DBASE 'This was where I put
                                                        'shortened path; with
                                                        'path here, InSight
                                                        'won't work.
REM  call c:\dos\repath            'When I replace path statement above with
                                   'CALL to batch file in *this* position in
                                   'autoexec, InSight won't work.
::Additional note --  If you look at the lines in this batch file, you'll
                      note that everything uses FULL PATH STATEMENTS so where
                      the path is set into environment should make no diff.

  SET INFO=Spider Configuration
  r:
  MD\JUNK
  MD\TEMP
  SET TEMP=r:\TEMP
  SET TMP=r:\TEMP
  CD\JUNK
  CALL C:\DOS\GSOUND.BAT
  P:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:3 /LO P:\NORTON\NCACHE /EXT=2M,1M  /block=2048

- ------end of autoexec segment--------------

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:34:16 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inbox is a blank screen again

Mark,

I understand your frustration & confusion ... *believe* me! <G>  I would
have discovered my problem sooner if I'd bothered to do a simple thing
at the DOS prompt:  files

Why moving a path statement in autoexec should keep files from being set
is beyond me, but that was what happened to me.  With the changed
position "files" at DOS prompt showed as being set to 8, not the 59 in
the autoexec.bat.  SHEESH!!

Try it.  See if you have as many files set as you think you have.  If
not, maybe you can figure out why not ... or play "move it here and try"
like I had to. <MG>

l.d.
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 03:04:16 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote:

> I don't know what happened. I got it to work when I moved Arachne to C:
> drive. So I pushed my luck and XCOPY'd /S back to F: drive and it still was
> working OK. Then like overnight it stopped working again. So, now I'm
> geting a blank page for my inbox again. I made a PKZIP BACKUP when it was
> working OK and I unzipped it and it didn't work either.

- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:54:15 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lost & desperate

Ricsi,

I asked for "simple & clear" and -- thank you!! -- you managed it.

Although I now have things working again, I may yet try that to see if
maybe it makes a difference [not necessarily for InSight] in memory
management.

l.d.
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:25:14 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:

> Hi

> "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> LB> What do I do to force swapping?
> Simply delete the brackets with the values.

> LB> l.d.

> CU, Ricsi
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 03:37:29 +0100
From: "W. J. Hoogstraten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne & ISDN

Hi,

I always use Arachne with UKA_PPP to use my ISDN-card. UKA_PPP makes
advantage of CIPA as packet-driver for the ISDN-card. Since I don't
really use any of the other functions of UKA_PPP, I want to use
Arachne with CIPA without UKA_PPP.

My knowledge about dialers & packet-drivers is not much, so I am
wondering if there is somebody who knows how to do this.

Best regards,

Willy J. Hoogstraten.

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:16:57 +0100
From: "W. J. Hoogstraten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It makes no sense ...

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:04:05 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:

> Willy,

> You may have seen my message where I finally got InSight running again.

Congrats.

> But thought I'd mention something to you ...

> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:37:49 +0100, W. J. Hoogstraten wrote:
> <snip>
>> BTW: make environment bigger than 1024 bytes if you can effort some
>> conventional memory (eg. shell=C:\command.com C:\ /E:2048 /P ).
>> For me (I love using the environment), 4096 bytes sounds good.

> Memory set aside for environment is taken from above 640K so could
> prevent Loading High something you wanted to put there.

With DR-DOS 7.03, environment is ALWAYS in the 64k bottom of CONVENTIONAL
memory, handles for the files= and fcbs= statements are also located there.
Only the buffers= statement takes HIGH memory (if high memory is accessible).

With MS-DOS 7 (Win95) the environment takes CONVENTIAL memory (above 64k)
when emm386 is not loaded or UPPER memory with emm386 loaded.

I don't know much about MS-DOS 7.x from Win98, except that himem.sys is much
better than in Win95. (I never really tried older MS-DOS versions, since I
prefer DR-DOS which weakest point (not reading FAT32), is the same with e.g.
MS-DOS 6.22).

Best regards,

Willy J. Hoogstraten.

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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:49:39 +0000
From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lost & desperate

Hello all,
- ---------
Note: The following procedure has been outlined as a way
      of Starting Over with a used HDD, to place DOS and
      Arachne on it, for installation in a 486 computer.
      Members of this list are encouraged to contribute
      to this procedure for the benefit of the 
      "Lost and Desperate".
- -----------------------------------------------------------
L.D.,
In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that you had 16MB of
free disk space. That may not be enough on a machine with Windows
3.1, DOS and Arachne. I have about 200MB free on this machine, and
all runs smoothly, even AOL<g>.
I've found that with a small drive, slow processor, too many
programs, things can get out of hand.
- --------------------------------------
A solution:
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If you have a copy of Arachne 1.60b1 on a floppy, and also
your arachne.cfg file, you could format the drive, and reinstall
DOS and Arachne. Before you do that, make printed copies of your
config.sys and autoexec.bat to keep. Also, if you use a DOS
mouse driver, make a copy of it to a floppy. I use dmouse.com,
and keep it around on a floppy.
- --------------------------
The Format Room:
- -------------------------
Here's how I do it on a used drive I buy from the
computer repair shop near my house:
- ------------------------------------------
This is step-by-step:
I'm using an IBM PS/1 Essential Model 2133-W53 486SX 25 that has
been upgraded to an Evergreen 586, with 32 MB ram installed.
I have MS-DOS 6.21 backup disks made on a Toshiba T1910CS with
the backup utility.
- -------------------
Unplug the power cord from the back of the computer.
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l. Slide the case off the computer. Unhook power and interface
   cables from the installed HDD, and plug them in the used drive
   to be formatted. Just lay the drive on top for now.(The four-wire
   power plug on the HDD requires creative language to get it to
   unplug from the installed drive. Work it side to side, not top
   to bottom, and it'll come out.)
2. Turn the computer on,(power cord installed) and take a look at
   what's on the drive. Usually has WIN95. Budget about 20 minutes
   for this look-see. If the drive appears ok, then proceed with the
   format: (all files will be deleted, except for the manufacturer's
   HDD files) 
3. With computer off, place MS-DOS disk #1 in Drive A.
4. Turn the computer on.
5. MS-DOS 6.21 will start, and it'll go to the setup screen.
6. Exit F-3. Don't set up yet, you want to format first.
7. At A:\> FORMAT C:/S
8. Will say: blah-blah, this disk cannot be unformatted.
9. Proceed with format "Y".
10.You'll see this:
   Verifying 407.75MB
    ___percent complete      (it formats the drive)
11.When the format is done, enter volume label when prompted to
   do so now. I usually just put the drive brand, "quantum410M".
12.You still have MS-DOS disk #1 in Drive A, so,
   A:\> SETUP
   to install MS-DOS 6.21 on the drive.
13.Choose" Continue Setup".
14.It proceeds with setup.
  (There's three disks) You now have MS-DOS 6.21 on the
   drive. Scandisk can be run now, if time allows.
At this point, I unhook the cables from the drive, and set it
aside, waiting for a computer that needs it.
- -----------------------
You can set up Arachne 1.60b1 by placing your Arachne disk
in Drive A, and
A:\>arcn16b1  (enter).
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After installation, I place my working arachne.cfg file in
the directory c:\arachne.(Then I ALT-D and go surfing)
http://www.angelfire.com/ms/telegram/arachne.html
 Here's how to get your arachne.cfg off your floppy and
into c:\arachne in DOS:
- -----------------
cd arachne
rename arachne.cfg arachne.old
cd c:\
a:\
copy arachne.cfg c:\arachne
- ----------------
Now you should have your working arachne.cfg in the
directory c:\arachne.
If you use an .acf file, place it there also, in DOS:
a:\> copy myacf.acf c:\arachne
- ---------------
At the C:\ prompt, you can use the EDIT program to look at
these files.
- --------------
Your a.bat file should be in the root directory. Arachne
installs it in the first directory in the path, and if
you make changes to your path, it can't be found by Arachne
to start from any directory.
- -------------
You should be able to start Arachne 1.60b1 now, and connect
to the internet.
Things you are going to want to do next:
Look at a memory report in Arachne.
Send these in to the list for everyone to review for you:
l. Your config.sys
2. Your autoexec.bat
3. Your mem.txt
To create a mem.txt, at the c:\> prompt:
mem/c > mem.txt (enter)
When connected to the internet in Arachne:
ALT-E (Shell out to DOS). You'll be at C:\>ARACHNE
then:
mem/c > mem.txt (enter)
This will give the placement of EPPPD.EXE, whether it's
in Conventional Memory, or loaded high.
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L.D.,
You could visit your local computer repair shop, and for
anywhere from $20-35 they can sell you a drive that they
have removed from a machine brought in for HDD upgrade,
and follow the above procedure to get a working useful
drive.
If you have the money, they can install it for you, and
place DOS on it, ready for you to take home and install
Arachne.
My PS/1 required no BIOS configuration of the new drive at
all. Neither does my Tandy. I can plug used drives of
120, 130, 270 MB in both with no problem. The PS/1 takes
those, plus the 410, 420MB drives also.
Other motherboards may take you into the setup utility
when a new drive is detected, and may autodetect it,
and allow you to proceed. If, when you plug the new drive
in, you get taken to the setup utility, you can stop if
 you get cold feet, and reinstall the original one.
You could format it, however.
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Note:
If the HDD is big enough, and the final installation
requires it, WIN 3.1 can be installed after the DOS installation
above. This operating system will want to set up a very large
swap area, sometimes 100MB or so, for it's use.
- -------------------------------
Hope this helps.
Michael L. Dawley
Pearl, Mississippi

- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:54:07 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windem nodems?

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:43:54 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:40:19 -0000, Mel Evans wrote:

>> All confirmed that I DO have a win modem. Can anyone explain how to run
>> arachne with the  (was it) stub 32  thing? and how I go to it? oh! and
>> remember I am NO dos expert.

> You don't need the stub 32 thing. You can run Arachne with a WinModem
> from inside of a "dos box" window from Win 95/98.

> A friend at the local computer store does it this way on one of his
> computers at the store. I've seen it running this way. I can ask him
> how if you like.

 Or if you like, I can send this .ZIP file....

Searching ZIP: C:/1SEND/ARCN-W95.ZIP

 Length  Method   Size  Ratio   Date    Time    CRC-32  Attr  Name
 ------  ------   ----- -----   ----    ----   -------- ----  ----
 967  DeflatX    252  74%  01-14-00  21:24  144b22f1 --w-  ARACHNE.PIF
 766  DeflatX    245  69%  03-21-99  09:06  7374d3d3 --w-  SPID.ICO
 ------          ------  ---                                  -------
1733             497  72%                                        2


- -- 
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
      http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:32:58 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cache size

                           **** Warning ****
*** If not interested in this thread... Delete this message NOW !!! ****


 OK, I've kept out of this one long enough.<vbg>

 Here's how I tested it.
Made 300 copies of the same .JPG file. (001.jpg through 300.jpg)
Then created these 2 .ASF files....

- ---test1.asf---
file://h:\test\001.jpg
file://h:\test\002.jpg

<snip>

file://h:\test\149.jpg
file://h:\test\150.jpg
- -----------------------

- ---test2.asf---
file://h:\test\151.jpg
file://h:\test\152.jpg

<snip>

file://h:\test\299.jpg
file://h:\test\300.jpg
- -----------------------

Mime.cfg was then modified

fastimage/jpeg            JPG>BMP|$edjpeg.exe -bmp $1 $2

(added this to the above line)....

\n$ewwwman.exe -c $c>>h:\\test\\testidx.htm\ncall h:\\test\\testhtm.bat

- ---testhtm.bat---
type h:\test\testdvd1.txt>>h:\test\testidx.htm
dir l:\arachne\cache>>h:\test\testidx.htm
type h:\test\testdvd2.txt>>h:\test\testidx.htm

- ---testdvd1.txt---
<pre>

- ---testdvd2.txt---
- ------------------------------------------------------
</pre>
- ---

The cache was cleared just before loading test1.asf
Test2.asf was run directly after test1.asf

1) 001.jpg was loaded and converted to .BMP (that .bmp was saved in $c)
2) contents of cache.idx were placed into testidx.htm
3) first divider line was placed into testidx.htm
4) directory listing of $c was placed into testidx.htm
5) second divider line was placed into testidx.htm

 Steps 1 through 5 were repeated 299 more times.

All of this resulted in this file.....
TESTIDX  HTM 15223452  2-29-00 10:35p

 That's right,
We now have a 15mb file which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt
that what Bernie has been saying is in-fact 100% correct.

 "256 _is_ the limit".

Testidx.htm has been converted to testidx.txt
(testhtml.zip and testtext-zip)

All of the files needed to do the test yourself are in test-idx.zip

 Volume in drive H is MCCORKLE_06
 Directory of  H:\TEST

.            <DIR>     2-29-00  4:43p
..           <DIR>     2-29-00  4:43p
001      JPG     1971  4-13-97 10:35p
002      JPG     1971  4-13-97 10:35p

<snip>

299      JPG     1971  4-13-97 10:35p
300      JPG     1971  4-13-97 10:35p
TEST-IDX ZIP   575144  3-01-00  1:13a
TEST1    ASF     3600  2-29-00  5:55p
TEST2    ASF     3601  2-29-00 10:26p
TESTDVD1 TXT        8  3-01-00 12:58a
TESTDVD2 TXT       65  3-01-00 12:58a
TESTHTM  BAT      140  2-29-00 10:14p
TESTHTML ZIP   812733  3-01-00 12:56a
TESTIDX  HTM 15223452  2-29-00 10:35p
TESTIDX  TXT  6463091  3-01-00 12:51a
TESTMIME CFG    14264  2-29-00 10:17p
TESTTEXT ZIP   266148  3-01-00 12:55a
      313 File(s) 514211840 bytes free


On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 07:52:55 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> Be honest.  Have you ever gone outside Arachne, and counted the
>> entries in Cache directory?

> I have, I downloaded the entire e-book entitled Art of Assembly. To be able
> to store it all in the cache I had to download it in two seperate attempts
> (I did copy it in four diffrent caches since that made it easier to know
> where in the book I was).

>> I more or less have .. since Norton
>> Commander makes it very easy for me to see just how many files are in
>> there.  Nothing has ever automatically removed those files.  Now, I
>> *haven't* counted the number of entries in cache.idx file ... *that* may
>> be what's limited to 256 entries.  I'll have to remember to check it
>> some day. <G>

> But doesn't Norton also show you the files that are removed? IIRC it can do
> that.
> //Bernie
> http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...

- --
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
      http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:28:13 +0100
From: "Lars Wigrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne & ISDN

> My knowledge about dialers & packet-drivers is not much, so I am
> wondering if there is somebody who knows how to do this.

I don't have so much knowledge on this topic either, but since about one
week or so I'm connecting to my ISP over an ISDN line using Arachne without
any problems. I have a USRobotics Courier I-modem, and the first thing I had
to change was the
init string. Now I'm using AT&F*V2=5 This will load the default hardware
flow control profile (&F) and put the modem in "Internet access mode"
(*V2=5).

The second thing I had to change was to NOT use the login script, which I
use over an analog line. This is simply beacuse that I found that when I
connect to my ISP using ISDN there's no Username nor any Password prompts to
log in. But Arachne logs in properly in this case. My guess (somebody please
correct me if I'm wrong here) is that this is what they call a Chap/Pap
login (it appears that the login/user verification procedure is built-in in
the protocol).

Eventhough I do not entirely understand what I'm doing, it does work :-)

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 02:39:36 -0500
From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It makes no sense ...

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:18:31 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:

> It made no sense, and it makes even less sense now.

> I checked everything, including files & buffers.  Files were set to 59
> and buffers to 17.  But InSight wouldn't work.

> If you were a windoze victim, what I tell you next would probably seem
> sensible.  But as a DOS user, you ain't gonna believe this one!

> ---
> Today I solved the problem, and the solution makes even less sense
> than the problem did in the first place.  I went back to using the
> called batch file for putting PATH statement in environment ...
> BUT HERE'S THE KICKER: InSight didn't work until I put that call back
> into autoexec at *exactly* the same line where I'd removed it!!!

> ---
> If anyone can figure out WHY this should happen, please let all of us in
> on the secret ... <sigh>


Hi LD;
This isn't the secret but it MAY be part of it.

We have all occasionally had problems with software that SEEMED to be
incompatible with some part of our regular setup.
Like right now this composition window is behaving in a TOTALLY
irrational manner. It wouldn't show the line I had previously typed so
I scrolled up and then the NEXT line disappeared.  Right now, the two
sentences previously typed have become vaporware - I can't see anthing
I've typed after the word setup.

Now, it's all back. 
See, we get used to working with crap. }-((

That may seem to be a bit of a sidetrack, and it really WASN'T what
I was going to say, but it came along at a perfect time to serve as
an example. <g>

To continue, SHIT ! Now I have 2 cursors !!!

I don't think I can complete this thought with this %$%@X@ composer.
GRRRRRRR! Software sometimes does not work because of a bug only seen
when it tries to execute a particular instruction at a particular point
in memory - like a page boundary, or where a segment wrap might take
place. Maybe, to work right at that point the instruction needs to be
word aligned. The chances of loading the software into a bug activating
position are pretty small - say one chance in 65k if there is only one
bug. N chances if there are N similar bugs. 

Hmm. I can read most of that. 
I had one case where I couldn't make something run unless I loaded
another copy of command before it, and other cases when loading several
copies would crash it - solely due to the load point - not the amount
of available memory.  
I'm talking about commercial software here - not something I wrote.

The likelihood that the particular problem you saw was due to Insight
is very high, but not 100%. The problem could very well be in Qemm !!

Try this. Restore your autoexec to the NON working condition and insert
a COMMAND statement (with environment spec) BEFORE the problem line.

- - Clarence Verge

- - Using Arachne 1.50b2 for a change.

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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:50:11 +0100
From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Updated APMs

This is mainly for Europen users of Arachne (namely coutries like
.fr, .de, .se, .pl., .cz, .sk ;-)

I have updated lat1conv.apm and lat2conv.apm to work bettwe with Arachne
1.60 series. Please check if you can print (or export DOS text file) in 
ASCII mode (P hotkey) after installing some of the APMs and if accented 
characters of your language are displayed correctly. 

I haven't tested those APMs very much, sorry...

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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:04:59 +0100
From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Troubles with military service

It is possible that I will have some troubles with military service
in my country. I hope I will manage 1.60 stable release before they "got
me". I also hope to avoid this trouble either for health reasons or
to serve "alternative service", not in army, but it may have negative 
effect on amount of time I can spend improving Arachne :-(

I think that compulsory military service should be outlawed in all
countries worldwide. I am absolutely _not interested_ in serving in any
army of any country in the world, but Czech laws give me very little choice,
and "alternative service" is kind of punishment for people who refuse
to go to the army anyway.

Do you think Internet can help to achieve this goal ? 

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:33:36 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MORE Re: It makes no sense ...

L.D. Best wrote:
> 
> It made no sense, and it makes even less sense now.
> 
> I checked everything, including files & buffers.  Files were set to 59
> and buffers to 17.  But InSight wouldn't work.
>
> -------
>    P:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM/2 >NUL
>    P:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES=59 >NUL

Hey LD;
I just noticed the above. What version of QEMM is this ? 

>From my post of Feb 21 that no one commented on, I re-post:
- ---------
We are sometime going to have to examine and deal with the re-direction
inconsistencies. Some DOSs may handle re-directions slightly differently.

On the surface, this looks like it can't be a problem, but re-direction
was designed into DOS before Loadhigh.

So, some DOSs may take LH EPPPD.exe >PPP.log as meaning what we want. i.e.
send the output of EPPPD.exe to PPP.log.   Others may want to send the
output of Loadhigh to PPP.log. <g>

Even with gold plated and approved IBM PC-DOS, I find that what gets
re-directed depends on what the program is - without any logical basis
that I can see.
e.g.
BOTH of the lines:
LOADHI BUFFERS>nul=15 or LOADHI BUFFERS=15 >nul
will work with QEMM 4.23
That is, 15 Buffers get loaded high and the babble disappears.
but
NEITHER works with QEMM 5.12 or 8.01 where Loadhi apparantly sends
the buffers to the bit bucket !
- -----------

Maybe *I* should try moving that Buffers line around !!

- -  Clarence Verge
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:17:25 -0000
From: "Mel Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windem nodems?

Hi Glenn,

Send me the zip file, then what do I do with it ? (Don't be rude now!)

Mel

- -----Original Message-----
From: Glenn McCorkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 March 2000 07:22
Subject: Re: Windem nodems?


>On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:43:54 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:40:19 -0000, Mel Evans wrote:
>
>>> All confirmed that I DO have a win modem. Can anyone explain how to run
>>> arachne with the  (was it) stub 32  thing? and how I go to it? oh! and
>>> remember I am NO dos expert.
>
>> You don't need the stub 32 thing. You can run Arachne with a WinModem
>> from inside of a "dos box" window from Win 95/98.
>
>> A friend at the local computer store does it this way on one of his
>> computers at the store. I've seen it running this way. I can ask him
>> how if you like.
>
> Or if you like, I can send this .ZIP file....
>
>Searching ZIP: C:/1SEND/ARCN-W95.ZIP
>
> Length  Method   Size  Ratio   Date    Time    CRC-32  Attr  Name
> ------  ------   ----- -----   ----    ----   -------- ----  ----
> 967  DeflatX    252  74%  01-14-00  21:24  144b22f1 --w-  ARACHNE.PIF
> 766  DeflatX    245  69%  03-21-99  09:06  7374d3d3 --w-  SPID.ICO
> ------          ------  ---                                  -------
>1733             497  72%                                        2
>
>
>-- 
>Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
>DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
>Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
>   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
>      http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
>

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