arachne-digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1028 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:08:35 +0100 From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #1026 Dne Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:05:53 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arachne-digest) napsal: >>> This is something you most certainly may do. See the famous essay by >>> Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience". >> Yes, I think that ideas like that are very valuable, but it is not >> something *any* state would encourage children to learn about at school >> ;-))) > In a community not very far from where I live there is a even a public > elementary school named after Henry David Thoreau. The school is located > within or in the outskirts of the Town of Vienna, Virginia. I would not > be at all surprised to learn that there may be many other public schools > in the US named after this philosopher. Well, this is exactly one of things which I would call really cool about USA. ... > things to different people. The only kind of people who are not patriotic are > those who for greed, or for fear, would sell themselves out to a repressive > foreign enemy or to an internal criminal enterprise. Why do you suspect, that someone, who maybe for fear, maybe for something else (but not greed) don't want to participate in armed forces of certain country, would "sell himself to foreign enemy" ? That's nonsense. I know that the enemy (if some enemy really exist, which I doubt in case of my country) would hardly be better than my country, and if I was only into money, it would be far less risky and profitable just to leave my country and to live somewhere else, than to "sell myself to enemy" ;-) ... >> But there is Unicode which has plenty of space for many, many characters, >> BUT it is not compatible to ascii ... (sure :)) it can't be compatible) UTF-8 representation should be compatible. I don't know it very well, but is sort of like HTML enties, IMHO. ... > characters. I have often wondered about the alternative code systems which > permit people having non-ascii characters in their language to communicate > over the internet. Would someone please refer me to a web page that would > help explain it? I don't know about HTML page, but the problem separates into two caregories. Central and Eastern Europeans (including Czech), Hebrew and AFAIK also Arabaic languages all fit into limit of 128 non-ascii characters, and therefore they can use just alternative font set, which is still addressed by classical 8-bit numbers 0-255, and 1st half is identical to US-ASCII. Japan, Korean and Chinese won't fit into 256 (not mentioning 128) character sets, so they use kind of escape code (usually about ASCII 128), which turns on 16-bit encoding (which is not unicode, but something different for each language). Korean uses alfabet called Hangul, which is quite logical, and I am planning to add it to Arachne, as I receivedd some sample code. Chinese is more complicated, and one company in Shanghai is implementing it to Arachne for me (in exchange for access to Arachne source code). . . . > SH> In the United States I have met some tourists from England and from > SH> Eastern Europe who tell me that it is just as easy to acquire a gun on > SH> the black market in their own countries as it is in my country. > It is definitely possible to aquire a gun, but it is MUCH harder !! > AND it is socially not accepted to wear a gun in public !! Not only socialy, but also legaly, AFAIK. At least .cz > But it IS accepted to drink a beer in the public .... Yes, definitely. Don't understand this wrong. It someone gets drunken like animal and becomes noisy and dangerous, it is not accepted and he may end in special kind of "overnight jail" in this case. But if you can control yourself when you drink, which most people do, everything is ok. I think, that these laws which prevent drinking in public originated in times and places where drinking was much likely to end with being dangerous and uncontrolable ;-) > SH> It is their opinion that the reason why Europeans are not as inclined > SH> to commit crimes with guns is that the punishment is more severe in > SH> their countries. > Sorry ... but this is ridiculous ... > America has capital punishmnent ... show me a punishment which is worse > than that ... I also don't undersand this, because EU countries, as well as countries willing to join EU, like my country, has all given up capital punishment. > SH> In the area where I live, if a person is bearing arms openly and not > SH> behaving in a threatening manner toward anyone, then there is no > SH> probable cause for the police to consider that person a criminal. > Yes ... but what I wanted to point out is, that guns are normal 'machines' > in america ... it is normal to wear them, and gun lobbyists state that it > is even the law that allows it. My personal opinion that I would like to see the situation much more like it is in Switzerland. Yes, adult Swiss men are armed. But they do not wear small guns and pistols like Americans, which are more likely to be misused for suicide or by children. In Switzerland, you would have *realy dangerous* machine gun safely locked at you attick. You definitely won't show with this machine gun on street, unless there is military training, which is about once a year. Well, this is the kind of army I would join without hesitating... Unfortunately, in our country it is very, very different from that. . . . > Eg if letter is written in latin-2, than the mail program will display it > using a latin-2 font, and all characters are showing up correctly. Yes, and Arachne can apply translation tables, eg. if you are using iso-8859-1 fonts, and letter is labelet to be in iso-8859-2 (like my e-mails, look at headers of e-mails which you received directly from me), Arachne looks for table in file "system\charsets\8859-2.cp", which can be eg. translation table from iso-latin-1 to plain ASCII.... . . . >> of being tired" (proably only in Czech, not in English), and some >> doctors believe it is caused by certain known virus, so it is often called >> "E.B.virosis". > Chronic fatigue syndrome. A friend of mine has it too. Also as a result > of working too hard. Well, I probably gave up working too hard, as I am ok now ;-) > New York State has the toughest gun laws in the nation (the Sullivan Act), > which requires licensing of *all* handguns. Shotguns must have their > magazines plugged so that only 3 shells may be in the gun at any one time. > But this "tough" law has never bothered law breakers, but only applied to > honest citizens. No criminal in New York State has ever registered a > handgun! If you are going to kill someone, which is against the law, why > should you worry about obeying a lesser law and license your handgun? This is unfortunately true, but do you really think, that criminals would be afraid of armed citizens ? They would just arm more heavily... anyway, I don't really have time to discuss that, this is one problem which I am sure about. I believe that police has kind of monopoly on enforcing law, and that monopoly proved to be bad thing... . . . > But IMHO it will soon be incorporated into alle new OSes. > (IMHO it would be extremely hard to deliver a Unicode implementation for > DOS) Rather impossible, as in DOS programs don't care at all about underlaying operating system ;) > I was designated 4F when I was 18 (1963). Good for me. > I have 10+ High School pals dead in Vietnam. Bad for them. > Listen to Roger, listen to Sergei, listen to Gloria, listen to Michael > .... war is f*cked, war is run by people who MAKE MONEY AT WAR!, > conscription sucks, ... we must be freed of the beast of greed. Well, the theory is that defensive war can be necessary, and I can imagine getting angry and wanting to defend my home against some kind of aggresive attack... but I can hardly imagine that for example our government would dare to use army consisting of drafted citizens for some millitary operatin outside our territory. Last government who dared to do this was Austria-Hungarian emperor in 1914, and it made Czech people enough upset to separate from Austria forever after the war... So I think we should tell our goverments to keep consription option for times of defence, and don't bother normal people by such duties during peace times like these.... (I hope my comments are getting shorter.. hmm... not much ;-) - -- Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne Labs: http://arachne.cz/ My mobile phone - up to 160 characters: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:55:10 -0500 From: Gloria Burd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Last notes on military service Roger, Thank you for your lengthy letter. I oppose war, period. No ifs, ands or buts about it. I was merely presenting some criticisms about the way the draft is being handled in modern times. (I also realise that the World War II draft was a different scenario.) I still believe that we need to work on alternatives to killing. I'm sure you understand, having been in the service, that war is not wonderful, and is not something to be glamourised. We need to teach our young ones nonviolence in order to have a peaceful world. Rather than recruiting people to serve in the military, why not encourage young people to serve their country via Habitat for Humanity, Peace Corps, VISTA, etc.? Sincerely, Gloria Burd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 16:31:33 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Quick cures don't work [was Re: Troubles with military service I'd like to point out a few facts that the general media in the USA like to avoid mentioning: Juvenile violence, violent crimes by juveniles, or upon juveniles, has dropped over 27% in the last 5 years -- despite continued population growth among the "less advantanged" youth. Accidents, primarily those associated with motor vehicles and/or alcohol use, remain the leading cause of death among those under age twenty-five. During the Vietnam war we killed off 20% of our young men before they reached age 25 -- and we did it on our streets & highways, not in a jungle in the Far East. The reporting of violence, no matter where, has become the way that the broadcast media attempt to achieve & maintain ratings so that they can make more money from advertisers. Right behind that is natural disasters in the US -- TV crews sticking their cameras in the faces of people just pulled from collapsed houses, people who don't even know yet if they've lost their family. It makes for good, quick, grabbembytheguts sound bites & photo ops. More children die in the USA as the result of poverty -- slow starvation, lack of proper clothing & shelter, lack of proper medical care -- than die as the result of guns, knives, or other "weapons." At last count -- and the census may show an increase -- there were 10,000, ten thousand, one hundred hundred, homeless children in Los Angeles County California alone. Politicians and do-gooders love to hop on the "ban the guns" bandwagon because it is good coverage and they can always blame their failures on "some lobbying group" or "ignorance of the public." Doing what is necessary to see that children have enough to eat, a place to live, a doctor they don't have to wait ten or twelve hours in the emergency room to see, is much tougher work -- and it involves thinking and planning and a redirection of governmental resources that don't make great 15 second news items and might even get some of the "haves" pixxed off because they might be taxed to accomplish such things. While Bill Gates is giving a billion dollars toward education [only 5 million a year for 20 years, less than he makes in a month and more than he could ever spend] I'm collecting and washing perfectly good clothing someone else threw out, so it can go to the "free store" and cover someone's body against the weather -- and my son is gathering up "expired" food stuffs and making certain it goes to the homeless instead of into the land fill. So I don't want to hear anyone claiming that gun safety would solve all the problems of this country, nor that disarmament would solve all the problems of the world. Unless you, yourself, have lived with the certainty that you have no idea where you'll spend the night or when you'll get your next meal or who to associate with in an attempt to survive the insanity going on around you -- unless you've reached out your hand, your heart, your time & effort to guide one child or counsel one lost teenager who no longer sees a reason to live -- I'd advise you to keep your "simple solutions" to yourself. Now, that's enough about the military, guns, death and suffering. We need to start working on increasing world-wide access to the internet. That way the *truth* can be shared with everyone, and stupid politicians and petty tyrants won't be quite as able to hide in the shadows and do their stupid manipulative best to maintain the status quo they benefit from. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 20:15:14 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: When is a mouse not a mouse ...? ... When you call it a rat?? Saying that an item is not "in the cache" because it is not listed in the cache index file is like saying we have had no new babies born in the last ten years since the census figures don't reflect their existance. Fact & overlays are two different things. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 14:42:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service Hi Sam, On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:05:53 +0100, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> I thank the American listmembers for the touching words about >> their patriotism. The dispute was very instructive for me. > The listmembers who are not American are also very patriotic, > and they too love their own countries, even though many of them > do not like what their respective governments are doing. I agree with you and I didn't assert the contrary. I think I have the right to like somebody's words. Maybe, it is by chance that they are American. I am not doubtful about your or other listmembers' patriotism. Regards, Csaba - ------------------------------------------------------------ * Csaba ADAM * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Tel/Fax:+36-22-353-407 * * * * GSM:+36-20-924-5337 * - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 00:14:06 +0100 From: "Bjorn Simonsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Improper HTML rendering of high ascii characters On 5 Mar 00 at 22:46, Richard Menedetter wrote: > (somebody on the list sent a GREAT URL explaining it) Thanks. May I have my identity back now? ;) May I also suggest the (brief but informative) Tutorial.txt (18kb) found in <http://home.sol.no/home/gisle/enjoy/mimelite.zip> (72kb) by Gisle Hannemyr (Norway). Description: The mimelite library is a set of C routines intended to be linked with other software to support a subset of MIME namely the bits that support encoding and transfer of European character sets. Environment: Unix, MS-DOS, W/NT (shell) Source: ANSI C Binary: unmime.exe (MS-DOS) Anyone in need of a DOS text filter for character (-set) conversions may also want to have a look at PEP by same author <ftp://ftp.sol.no/software/src/c/pep.zip> (89kb w/source) : Name: pep - General purpose filter and file cleaning Description: Pep may be used to expand/compress tabs; convert to and from several character sets; to interpret ANSI escape sequences; and to remove unwanted line noise from files. Both freeware. All the best, Bjorn (another Norwegian) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:46:55 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #1026 Michael Polak wrote: >>My personal opinion that I would like to see the situation much more like it is in Switzerland. Yes, adult Swiss men are armed. But they do not wear small guns and pistols like Americans, ...<< Michael, On your recent trips to the US, how many people, other than law enforcement, did you see wearing "small guns and pistols?" Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:15:04 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: Troubles with military service >Someone has been watching too many American films. I think you have put your finger on one major problem. Think about it: here in Europe, we only ever get to hear about the US from two sources - films and the news. Neither of them give any real idea of what day-to-day American life is like. So we only ever get to hear about the weirdest, the most violent, the most unusual (because it's newsworthy or filmworthy). As if there weren't enough nutters in the US as it is, if you got your understanding of that country through European TV, you wouldn't believe it's mostly populated by ordinary, peaceable people who just want to enjoy life in an ordinary, peaceable way. The same is true of the picture of Europe in the US - I bet on that side of the Atlantic most people never hear of Europe unless there's a war on. Try to convince people that Europeans don't spend their life at each other's throats after that. Yet most of us are ordinary, peaceable people, who manage to be polite to each other (even though we don't carry guns :-). >From that angle, your description of ordinary American life is very informative, stupid as that sounds. Here, the nearest I've ever been to a gun is on pictures. You may know that in the UK even the police doesn't carry any. That makes me glad because guns only exist for one reason: destruction... Despite the fact that nobody's armed, there are no armed robberies ;-), no accidental gunshot wounds :), no fear of gun freaks :). My sister is a hospital Doctor and she has never seen a gunshot wound - probably never will. Here Amadou Diallo wouldn't have died, and the police wouldn't have feared what he was searching for. For a while in Manchester I remember drug dealers walking with a pit-bull on a lease. Now they have to be muzzled (the pit-bulls I mean). That's how we live. Charles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:13:20 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pit-bull muzzling Charles Boisvert wrote: >>For a while in Manchester I remember drug dealers walking with a pit-bull on a lease. Now they have to be muzzled (the pit-bulls I mean).<< Our pit-bulls also have to be muzzled. Muzzling the drug dealers is the big problem. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:55:20 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Crime in the U.S. Having a scanner and listening to police calls for several years now (it's a little less boring than watching TV), this is how I perceive the volume of dispatches, from the most frequent to the least: 1. Domestic disputes/arguments 2. Automobile accidents 3. Runaway juvenile has returned home 4. Burglar alarm (business and residential) 99% false alarms 5. Stalled vehicle blocking traffic 6. Shoplifting 7. Reckless/drunk driving reported 8. Burglary (usually residential) 9. Despondent person threatening suicide 10.Suspicious person/activity ... ... ... Shots heard (usually turns out to be cars backfiring/firecrackers) Robbery (from business, weapon implied, not seen) Assault Highway robbery (Person accosted on street/in parking lot) I have heard only one homicide dispatched. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:34:9 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: Troubles with military service On 06/03/00 Charles wrote: >As if there weren't enough nutters in the US as it is, if you got your understanding >of that country through European TV, you wouldn't believe it's mostly populated by >ordinary, peaceable people who just want to enjoy life in an ordinary, peaceable way. >Try to convince people that Europeans don't spend their life at each other's throats >after that. Yet most of us are ordinary, peaceable people, who manage to be polite >to each other (even though we don't carry guns :-). - -- My aunt in pre-Mandela South Africa thought the UK must be very dangerous, solely from TV reports. Our assertions to the contrary fell on deaf ears. >You may know that in the UK even the police doesn't carry any. That makes me >glad because guns only exist for one reason: destruction... Despite the fact that >nobody's armed, there are no armed robberies ;-), no accidental gunshot wounds :), >no fear of gun freaks :). - -- But there are accidents, and often because of UK police carrying arms. A guy from the nearby small town was going to a pre-Christmas party dressed as a gangster with a replica sub-machine gun. He was apprehended by the armed police response unit plus a helicopter. A policeman visiting from New Zealand wrote to the local paper that he could now understand why the taxes are so high! When I was a kid, the police stopped a friend who was carrying some wood with a nail through it. - -- Firearms serve the purpose of: a) killing or threatening to kill or wound humans and animals b) self-aggrandizement through their bearing or ownership c) sporting activity A proportion of those licenced to use firearms fail my gut-felt definition of a responsible human being on all counts. Even sporting activity should be carried out with less potential danger and annoyance to others and more skill/benefit to the participant. I do not regard myself as qualified to make life-or-death decisions, especially in the heat of the moment, and am glad I live where there is no pressure from society for me to conform to such a role. Look at the figures for motorists: most consider themselves "above average"; "more skilfull after moderate alcohol consumption" etc. The facts are that firearms specialists are a danger to the innocent, and the casual user may be more so. Mention was made of road deaths, as a comparison with Vietnam casualties. The percentage looked exaggerated to me. Haven't more Vets committed suicide in the intevening years than were killed during the war, or is that a myth? One correspondent mentioned US casualties during WWII, neglecting the far higher toll on Russian lives. I would also guess that German civillian loss of life was higher than US military casualities in Europe. I should've found some numerical backing for the above, but while the numbers of deaths and injuries from "acceptable" activities like driving are shocking the basis for using firearms -- points a, b, c -- should be questioned and alternatives sought. You don't carry a weapon without the possibility, however small, of causing someone's death or injury. Jake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:07:41 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: file:i:\cable\CACHE\52455892.htt * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-952456064 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I did what was suggested .... hit the equal sign and read the screen. Nowhere do I see a mention of text/plain or text/html Now what? l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-952456064 Content-Type: application/octet-stream ;name=52455892.htt Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PFRJVExFPkhUVFAgaGVhZGVyIG9mIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucmFuZG1jbmFsbHkuY29tL3NpdGVt ZW51L3NpdGVtZW51LmVodG1sPC9USVRMRT48UFJFPgpIVFRQLzEuMCAyMDAgT0sKU2VydmVy OiBTdHJvbmdob2xkLzIuNC4yIEFwYWNoZS8xLjMuNiBDMk5ldEVVLzI0MTAgKFVuaXgpIGVQ ZXJsLzIuMi4xNCBQZXJsLzUuMDA0XzA0CkRhdGU6IFR1ZSBNYXIgIDcgMTQ6MDM6MTUgMjAw MApDb25uZWN0aW9uOiBjbG9zZQpFeHBpcmVzOiBUaHUsIDAxIERlYyAxOTk0IDE2OjAwOjAw IEdNVApTZXQtQ29va2llOiBzZXNzaW9uaWQ9NzA3NTM3OyBwYXRoPS8KPC9QUkU+PEhSPlVS TDo8QSBIUkVGPSJodHRwOi8vd3d3LnJhbmRtY25hbGx5LmNvbS9zaXRlbWVudS9zaXRlbWVu dS5laHRtbCI+aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yYW5kbWNuYWxseS5jb20vc2l0ZW1lbnUvc2l0ZW1lbnUu ZWh0bWw8L0E+PEJSPkxvY2FsOjxBIEhSRUY9ImZpbGU6NTI0NTU4OTIuVE1QIj5pOlxjYWJs ZVxDQUNIRVw1MjQ1NTg5Mi5UTVA8L0E+PEhSPg== - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-952456064-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:57:02 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last notes on military service (on topic again) On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 18:28:18 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > War is not like a birthday party where invitations are sent out inviting > Country A to have a war with Country B. War is like a tornado, or a > hurricane, or a flood, that comes uninvited with little or no warning. Those > who are prepared, survive; those who are not prepared, do not survive. In the United States, before the advent of the all volunteer service, the "invitations" were sent to the young men chosen for conscription. As I'm sure you remember, the letter you got from the Draft Board opened with the salutation "Greetings". War is not a natural disaster that just "comes" ininvited. Wars are are caused by old men who send young men off to fight and kill each other. If young men (and now women) refused to fight anymore that would be the end of it. Other ways would be found to resolve conflict. Worldwide communication, available to all at low cost, will help. This was part of Michael's vision of the internet and part of his motivation for developing Arachne. Sam Ewalt - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 22:44:51 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Quick cures don't work [was Re: Troubles with military service >I don't want to hear anyone claiming that gun safety would solve all >the problems of this country, nor that disarmament would solve all the >problems of the world. Nobody said that putting an end to guns would solve everything. Just that guns aren't part of any solution. They are a waste of time and energy at best and destructive at worst. >We need to start working on increasing world-wide access to the internet. I'm sure that's one reason why many of us support Arachne - to get people cross the digital divide. See also http://www.newdealinc.com Charles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:13:53 +0200 (WET) From: Marie Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [none] On the weekend, I upgraded/installed arachne 16b1 on my parents' computer. Unfortunately, I was in a hurry and couldn't test everything, but yesterday they phoned complaining that they couldn't get any e-mail. All the info I could get (by phone, 200 km away) was that the pop3 password had disappeared from the edit box where it's supposed to be and they couldn't get it back there - they said something 'bout it being too long (9 chars) to fit in. I don't really understand that and unfortunately I don't have arachne over here (though I'll try it a.s.a.p.) ... but if something springs to your head what could be the problem, please tell me. thnx, - -- marie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:12:29 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service Bernie, I think you have this wrong ... On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:00:26 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > It's also hard comming home late at night knowing that you can get > accidently shot by your own parents. > Sadly this idea that every one should have a weapon and "shoot first and > ask questions later" is spreading, it wasn't that long ago that a man here > in Sweden got shot to death just because he was close to someones house. > IIRC the man who shot him is beeing acused of his crime as murder. Arming people doesn't mean telling them to shoot first and ask questions later. If every child grew up in a home with weapons that they had been shown the effect of, the reality of bullets and capability of killing, there would be far fewer deaths by guns. Those who do the most damage with guns are those who are afraid of them -- i.e. those who have not received training on the weapon. Once you *know* you know how to use the weapon, and what it will do, the chances of accidental shooting drop way down. And then there is the law. In Texas I was told if I had to shoot somebody on my property, I should make certain they fell *inside* the front door. That was because I couldn't "post" my property, since the mailbox was on the front porch. But just posting "no trespassing" signs isn't an adequate reason to kill. I don't know about where you live, but around here you aren't allowed to shoot or attack someone in *any* way if all that is at risk is property [real or personal]. You can only shoot when you feel you [or member of household] are/is in "right now" danger of being killed ... not "beaten up" not "raped" -- only "killed." >> In this day & age of the US gov'ts trying to disarm the people, one town >> -- and one town only -- has had a 75% drop in burglery, rape, break ins >> to homes, etc. It is a small town that *requires* every household to >> have at least one loaded gun at all times. > By increasing the number of weapons the "bad guys" also will get their > hands more easily on weapons. And this *is* the reason why the US has so > many murderers (especially mass murderers). I doubt that it's in your blood > to kill inocent people. This is one of the biggest lies anti-gun people tell themselves: "If no one is allowed to have guns, then the bad guys can't steal and use them." The 'Bobbies' in GB don't carry guns because personal ownership of guns is very strictly controlled. Lately that hasn't stopped bad guys from getting and using guns to commit crimes. And they didn't steal the guns from legal owners. That "if there are no legal guns" argument holds about as much validity as someone saying I shouldn't own a car, because if I own a car then some bad guy can steal it and kill someone while being chased by cops, or driving drunk, or whatever. Year ago I saw one of the most truthful bumper stickers ever places on a vehicle: When guns are outlawed, outlaws will still have guns. You want a gun? I can show you how to make a single fire .22 from a car antenna, a clothes pin, and a nail. You want a gun? Go to the right park of the right street and you can buy an Ozzi -- and they are illegal already. And if you live with your parents, and you're supposed to be home by midnight, and you come barging and banging into the house at o'dark thirty, you probably deserve to get shot for failure to respect the wishes of the people who birthed, raised, and supported you all those years. [Not really, but there are time's I've been tempted .....] I have been saying it for decades now, but I'll say it again. YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY. And you cannot legislate intelligence or "street smarts" or [not yet, at least] minimum requirements for parenthood. The majority of the people do not deserve to be, and should not be denied freedoms, or otherwise punished, because of what "the bad guys do. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:24:25 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Improper HTML rendering of high ascii characters Amen, brother .. AMEN!! On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 13:20:21 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Let us try to deconstruct the Tower of Babel. Abolishing Java Script and > Active X would be a very good start <vbg>. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 01:47:38 +0100 From: "Willy & Danielle Hoogstraten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mail password On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:13:53 +0200 (WET), Marie Fischer wrote: > On the weekend, I upgraded/installed arachne 16b1 on my parents' computer. > Unfortunately, I was in a hurry and couldn't test everything, but > yesterday they phoned complaining that they couldn't get any e-mail. All > the info I could get (by phone, 200 km away) was that the pop3 password > had disappeared from the edit box where it's supposed to be and they > couldn't get it back there - they said something 'bout it being too long > (9 chars) to fit in. One of the e-mail addresses I use, needs a password of 12 characters. This is visible in the edit box and in the file 'arachne.cfg' as well. I guess, the reason why Arachne can't handle it is because it starts with a period (it works with UKA_PPP, not with Arachne). - - Best regards, - - Willy J. Hoogstraten. - - End of message - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:30:14 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: On Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:13:53 +0200 (WET), Marie Fischer wrote: > On the weekend, I upgraded/installed arachne 16b1 on my parents' computer. > Unfortunately, I was in a hurry and couldn't test everything, but > yesterday they phoned complaining that they couldn't get any e-mail. All > the info I could get (by phone, 200 km away) was that the pop3 password > had disappeared from the edit box where it's supposed to be and they > couldn't get it back there - they said something 'bout it being too long > (9 chars) to fit in. I don't really understand that and unfortunately > I don't have arachne over here (though I'll try it a.s.a.p.) ... but if > something springs to your head what could be the problem, please tell me. > thnx, > -- > marie Hello Marie, Try setting up your parent's Arachne so that they would do a "terminal login". Such a feature is in the setup options. With a "terminal login", the system provides the user with prompts to manually enter his username and password. I always perform a terminal login. It is not because I would have any problems doing a scripted login. A terminal login is just my personal preference, and I have no quarrel to make with others who might prefer to log in by some other method. It is just a matter of my personal preference. If you should find that Arachne still doesn't like passwords more than 8 characters long, then you might want to consider changing your password. With my ISP, any subscriber can change his password at any time with telnet. I have found the procedure very simple. Of course you will have to disconnect and then re-connect before the change will take effect. Good luck! Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:42:57 +0200 From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne 1.61 problems Arachne 1.60 is still a problematic beta.. i'd stick with 1.50src. It gave me trouble while downloading the mail too. Its good for general browsing, though. There was a reason why Michael warned about using it, in the Arachne page.. :) Or Botton [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense." - ----------------------------- http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:29:27 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: file:i:\cable\CACHE\52455892.htt On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:07:41 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I did what was suggested .... hit the equal sign and read the screen. > Nowhere do I see a mention of text/plain or text/html > Now what? The problem is on the server side. http://www.randmcnally.com/sitemenu/sitemenu.ehtml sends no content-type information at-all. We can't fix it on this side. The only recourse is to contact the site administrator and ask them to fix it. This one sends the correct content-type. Therefore Arachne views the .ehtml as HTM. http://vaxxine.com/diesel/code/trouser.ehtml - ---52480683.htt--- <TITLE>HTTP header of http://vaxxine.com/diesel/code/trouser.ehtml </TITLE><PRE> HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 01:58:18 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.12 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html </PRE><HR>URL:<A HREF="http://vaxxine.com/diesel/code/trouser.ehtml"> http://vaxxine.com/diesel/code/trouser.ehtml</A><BR> Local:<A HREF="file:52480683.HTM">\arachne\cache\52480683.HTM</A><HR> - ------------ Here's another that works fine... http://www.specialized.com/products/accessories/saddles.ehtml But, at the same server, this one doesn't send the content-type... http://www.specialized.com/site_menu/index.ehtml Perhaps it's just a coincidence but... both servers are not sending content-type for a file in their "sitemenu" directory. http://www.randmcnally.com/sitemenu/sitemenu.ehtml - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1028 ******************************
