arachne-digest Sunday, March 5 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1025 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:50:39 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: abberant= aberrant On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:37:35 +0000, Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote: > The word is of latin origin - it is definitely known in French and Spanish, > and probably other languages of that family as well. But the point about > non-native speakers is a good one. Thank you. Except that it is hard to know in advance just which words, phrases and idioms would be hard for a non-native speaker of English to understand. And of course, many of us native English speakers are poor spellers and lousy typists. If something is unclear, please ask for an explanation and we will all do our best to understand each other. Sam Ewalt - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 18:31:40 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Last notes on military service There is no one that knows the horrors of war better than those, civilian and military, directly involved in it. There is no one who wants peace more than who fought, for they know the insanity of war. They also know that to prevent war, a strong military is necessary. Let's put to rest also the fallacy that a conscripted army causes wars. Every rebellion, revolution, uprising, and overthrow of government is caused by volunteers! The American Revolution was started and fought by volunteers, for there was no separate government to conscript people. The government in control was Great Britain. The French Revolution was started by volunteers, not conscripted soldiers. The Bolshevik Revolution of Marx, Trotsky and Lenin was started by volunteers, not the Czar's army. The assasination of Arch Duke Ferdinand was not by a conscript but by an individual, a volunteer. Hitler's rise to power was the result of volunteers, not the conscripted soldier. Hitler's volunteers, the brown-shirted, hob-nail booted thugs and the Hitlerjugen, intimidated the population and the police force alike to the extent that they were powerless to do anything. Hitler's Nazi party was a minority party (amongst many parties) in the Bundestag, but when it came time to elect Hitler as Vice-Chancellor all of his volunteers appeared in uniform in the Bundestag and intimidated the others in not opposing Hitler. It was well known what happened to people who took that action. It was not Iran's army that overthrew the Shah, but volunteers. It was not the conscripted army of any country that caused the Berlin Wall to come down, but volunteers. Is it not volunteers, the Chechen rebels, that are fighting Russian troops? Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:52:51 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: abberant= aberrant On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:50:39 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 13:37:35 +0000, Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton > wrote: >> The word is of latin origin - it is definitely known in French and Spanish, >> and probably other languages of that family as well. But the point about >> non-native speakers is a good one. Thank you. > Except that it is hard to know in advance just which words, phrases > and idioms would be hard for a non-native speaker of English to > understand. And of course, many of us native English speakers are > poor spellers and lousy typists. > If something is unclear, please ask for an explanation and we will > all do our best to understand each other. Hello: I am very surprised that we have let ourselves carry on a discussion on the list concerning the proper spelling of a word. I frequently find many words misspelled here. Everybody including myself makes mistakes. Sometimes the "peculiar" way we may spell some words is merely a reflection of the ways of our own respective ethnic groups. I think that discussions on the various spellings of words, although educational and enlightening, are way off-topic. For that reason I feel that such matters should be discussed off-list, IMHO. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:33:26 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Improper HTML rendering of high ascii characters On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 14:08:00 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote: > Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Why is HTML programmed in such a way so as to not perform a one-for-one >> rendering of high ascii characters? IMHO, it would seem a good idea if >> all HTML viewers and text-to-HTML converters were to adhere to the >> international ascii standard. This would eliminate many problems in >> attempting to correspond with someone in a language that is other than one's >> own. > Hi Sam; > That's probably because there is no REAL single standard for the high ASCII > characters. > ASCII is fully represented by a 7 bit code and the use of the other half of > the available byte depends on who is using it. Printer manufacturers have > had their own ideas, software written for languages and character sets other > than English frequently makes use of this space (but not in a standardized > manner) and obviously IBM chose to use it for some special characters and > graphics. Very good explanation, Clarence. I sure wish this thing were universally standardized. It would be a great step towards achieving more compatible technology and improved communications. I think most people would agree with me on this point. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:19:18 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Improper HTML rendering of high ascii characters On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:33:26 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Very good explanation, Clarence. I sure wish this thing were universally > standardized. It would be a great step towards achieving more compatible > technology and improved communications. I think most people would agree with > me on this point. If I'm not mistaken, there are more than 128 "special characters" needed to be compatible with all languages around the world. Maybe it's time for a 16bit ASCII That would give us 256*256=65536 total characters available. "64k ought to be enough for everyone"<vbg> - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:00:55 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service On Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:44:49 -0500, Gloria Burd wrote: > The best defence is disarmament. In a perfect world, your statement would be true. But we all know that this not a "perfect world". In this world, the enemies of peace are armed. In this world, the defenders of peace must also arm themselves. For without arms to defend themselves...... The defenders of peace are destined to become the slaves of the armed enemies. Yes, this is repulsive. But, it _is_ the truth. - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:37:22 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last notes on military service On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:16:05 +0100, Michael Polak wrote: <snipped everything that I agree with> > conscription is sexist - I wonder if I shouldn't declare that I am > going to change my gender to woman ;-) > -- > Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But then you'de need to change your signature file to... "Michelle Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 0:33:43 +0800 From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last notes on military service HizOnner Prince Michael wrote: >Additionaly, I was suffering quite unpleasant ilness cca 3 years ago >(probably as result of my initial period of extremely-hard, day and >night work on Arachne... which I definitely gave up, now I spend most >of my time answering Arachne related e-mails ;). It is caused "syndrome >of being tired" (proably only in Czech, not in English), and some >doctors believe it is caused by certain known virus, so it is often called >"E.B.virosis". But it is not on list of "accepted ilnesses" to be >excused from military service. Luckily, this ilness is not active now, >but they would probably called me even during the period when it was >active, if I had bad luck. - -- M.E., chronic fatigue syndrome or "yuppie 'flu" (my Polish friend knows what a yuppie is, so I presume it's a universally-used term). Didn't the Czech army help the Western armies with chemical warfare protection for the Gulf War? -- And US and UK troops involved in that conflict returned with Gulf War Syndrome (not acknowledged in the UK) - -- some sort of connection? Czech beer?? :-) Jake p.s. "Apropos" of the salutation at the head of this message, and the possibility of mobilising the Net to improve Michael's chances of avoiding conscription, perhaps Michael could claim royal descent, or that many cybercitizens regard him as regal. This could work for him in a similar way to the cases of captured Brits during WWII who were thought by the Germans to be related to Sir Winston Churchill, the Prime Minister. Or convince the authorities that before them stands Mad Prince Michael. (Written in jest, hoping not to start a thread on the merits or otherwise of monarchies.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:09:31 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service The best defense is to disarm the government and arm the people. For the cost of one cruise missle, arms could have been provided to every family member over the age of 8 in Kosovo. You tell me how willing Serbian rebels would have been to invade villages *knowing* that every household was well armed! And the same goes for the other side too. It's hard to pillage and rape when you can be shot for even showing your face. In this day & age of the US gov'ts trying to disarm the people, one town - -- and one town only -- has had a 75% drop in burglery, rape, break ins to homes, etc. It is a small town that *requires* every household to have at least one loaded gun at all times. l.d. P.S. I'm still running for President of the USA. But it will have to be a write-in vote, since I can't get on any ballots and no recognized political party wants anything to do with a "violence preaching radical" such as I. ==== On Sat, 4 Mar 2000 06:44:49 -0500, Gloria Burd wrote: > The best defence is disarmament. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:06:38 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: OT: Troubles with military service Hi "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The best defence is disarmament. GM> In a perfect world, your statement would be true. This is NOT a reply to Glenn, but a general message concerning this topic. Giving everybody weapons is _NOT_ the solution .... I find it ridiculous that there is a lawyer sues computer game indutry, because the pupils going crazy are caused by computergames .... The same games (namely Quake I think) are played here in europe, too, but here there are no pupils going THAT crazy ... it is the availability of weapons, that makes them freak out ... In some parts of america you can go on the street with a gun, and nobody (INCLUDING POLICE !!!) says anything .... but just try to drink a beer in public, and off you go to jail ... (this is simply unthinkable for me ....) And than they show a documentary on german television about police hunting prostitutes. (a female police officer tries to catch man who want to pay her .... and THIS in a country, where every few seconds somebody is MURDERED ...) IMHO Police should have something better to do than THAT !!! Sorry for my long letter .... I understand that there are GREAT differences between american and european culture, and apologize if somebody feels offended, but this is my oppinion ... GM> Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Error failed! Press any key to resume error <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:45:55 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Improper HTML rendering of high ascii characters Hi "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SH> Very good explanation, Clarence. I sure wish this thing were SH> universally standardized. It would be a great step towards achieving SH> more compatible technology and improved communications. I think most SH> people would agree with me on this point. The problem is, that there are more special characters than 128. (eg hungarian 'hoszu � and �' which are not part of latin-1) But there is Unicode which has plenty of space for many, many characters, BUT it is not compatible to ascii ... (sure :)) it can't be compatible) SH> Sam Heywood CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Things are not as bad as they seem - they're worse <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:40:49 +0100 (CET) From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:Troubles with military service Dear All, I thank the American listmembers for the touching words about their patriotism. The dispute was very instructive for me. Regards, Csaba - ------------------------------------------------------------ * Csaba ADAM * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Tel/Fax:+36-22-353-407 * * * * GSM:+36-20-924-5337 * - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 07:23:56 +0100 From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #1024 Dne Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:48:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arachne-digest) napsal: >> think that everyone should willingly serve. Although I served four years on >> active duty, enlisting during the Korean War, and another 26 years in the >> reserve forces, I would willingly serve again if it should come to that. > I have refused to go to the Ukrainian Army. AND I AM PROUD > OF IT ! > All you US, GB, NZ, EU citizens even can not impress what is > military service > in postcommunistic countries. In Russia young 18-years boys > going to kill > peoples in Chechnia. I do not know how it's in Chech rep., > but in my country > army it's complete horror. My friend die 3 month ago from > famine. It was in > ARMY... > 2 years in Ukrainian army i can compare only with 10 years > in Ukrainian jail.... > ....here the call in my door... ... hope thats not mil It is not even nearly as bad in Czech Republic. Army is very unpleasant, but I don't think I would die - I just hate to be commanded by anyone (but I also hate to give commands), that would be my main problem. Additionaly, the alternative civil service is bad mainly from economical point of view (I wouldn't be allowed to have any financial income for year and half... of course, I would ask my brother or so to sign the Arachne related contracts... but it's horror anyway) > This is something you most certainly may do. See the famous essay by > Henry David Thoreau, "Civil Disobedience". Yes, I think that ideas like that are very valuable, but it is not something *any* state would encourage children to learn about at school ;-))) . . . > Please can anyone enlighten me? This is NOT the first time > that I've seen reference to pressing Q to do this. Heeding > Glenn's advice of some time ago to study the HOTKEYS.HTM page > frequently, I did just that and I couldn't find any reference > to Q. Q is hotkey for requesting all links. It is mention in hokeys.htm (at least I believe! I should fix it if not) . . . > I don't know the URLs of all of the above, but a good search engine should > help you. > Thank God for programmers who don't support war! The sad thing is that I *like* to play military strategy games - on my PC. Well, just time to time. But I still believe that I can recognize what is virtual reality and what is real life. This discussion is not so much about supporting or not supporting war, because no one sane can "support war" in any way. The problem is rather in allowing or not allowing people to decide independently whether they want to join possible defensive action against possible agression or not. We had otherwise very pacifist writer Karel Capek, who had died just before WW II started, and in one of his last works, he admited that defense against agressor (like eg. nazi Germany was in these days) is moral decision: but in his drama "Mother", it was voluntery decision of people who were eye witnesses and victims of atack against their peaceful country (again, it was still quite naive, because propaganda is able to persuade people that any war is ok...). But in my case it is really not so dramatic: it is about struggling with stupid laws and stupid bureaucracy of country in which I was coincidentaly born and in which I (not so coincidentaly) decided to stay and live. It is not about fighting, just about discrimination of people who refuse to train fighting. .... > Why is HTML programmed in such a way so as to not perform a one-for-one > rendering of high ascii characters? IMHO, it would seem a good idea if > all HTML viewers and text-to-HTML converters were to adhere to the > international ascii standard. This would eliminate many problems in > attempting to correspond with someone in a language that is other than one's > own. Bad luck for many languages: "internatal ASCII standard" is standard only in low 128 characters. Higher ASCII is not standartized even for western languages (there is PC ASCII and ISO-8859-1 used on Internet, in Unix and Windows, etc.), but certain accented letters for central European languages are completely misssing. You can use 8-bit, but you have to mark HTML document, eg. <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> . . . > The United States did away with compulsory military service sometime > in the late 1970's. It was thought that an all volunteer force would > be more effective than reluctant draftees, especially when asked to > fight an unpopular war like in Vietnam. Right. But our politicians are very smart: they always announce that army will be reorganized to be "professional army" on a date, which is *after* next elections. Currently they say 2003 (year of of elections is 2002). They would promising anything before elections - nothing surprusing. But situation in .cz really can't be compared to situation of Americans drafted to Vietnam, Serbs drafted to Bosna and Kosovo or Russians drafted to Afghanistan or Chechnya. There is no war I havev to fight except war with bureaucracy, army machinery and 19th century-like laws. We just want to becaume normal European country - and most of EU already converted to small professional armies instead of forcing citizens to serve in army. - -- Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arachne Labs: http://arachne.cz/ My mobile phone - up to 160 characters: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:53:20 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Aberrant Hey, You forgot an "aa" word! Behold the lowly aardvark, claws that can go through concrete and a tongue that could stretch to the end of the bed. l.d. ==== On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 20:51:37 -000, Mike Millen wrote: >> Mike wrote: >>> It might have helped if she'd spelt it correctly. :) (Only 1 "b") >> As I said I looked for words resembling it. And shorting it down with one b >> was the first change I did (can't have two a's next to each other in the >> begining of a word except in names, right?). > Well... > There *are* a few words, but none you're likely to come across > every day. :) > There's a type of lava in Hawaii and a few Afrikaan words that > start that way, but otherwise, you're right... Aaron it is. :) > Mike > -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 21:25:18 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last notes on military service Nonononon ... He's already more than half-way there. After all, his handle is Xchaos, and not the weaker, one-legged, Ychaos of a male. <GD&RLH> l.d. ===== On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 18:37:22 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:16:05 +0100, Michael Polak wrote: > <snipped everything that I agree with> >> conscription is sexist - I wonder if I shouldn't declare that I am >> going to change my gender to woman ;-) >> -- >> Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > But then you'de need to change your signature file to... > "Michelle Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- > Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA > DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html > Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS > Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. > http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:47:38 -0500 From: Gloria Burd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Last notes on military service Yes, Roger, but VietNam, for example, was fought by conscripted men. Most of the imperialist wars (such as VietNam) in which the U.S. engaged involved drafted men, who came disproportionately from poor and/or minority backgrounds. The draft is inherently racist as well as classist. More significantly, the only way you can stop war, logically, is by stopping war. Violence only begets violence, and world history has already borne witness to that fact. Examples are Northern Ireland and the former Yugoslavia. (In the latter case, U.S. military intervention has added fuel to the fire.) During the late Sixties there was a saying, "You can't fight for peace any more than you can ball for chastity." My favourite proverb from that beautiful time is "What if they gave a war and nobody came?" There are better ways to serve your community than by killing people in other lands. Yours in peace, Gloria Burd 103014,3025 Arachne Fan Easy DOS It--Break Windows!! :-D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:53:16 -0500 From: Gloria Burd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service But I think it's up to us to help create a better world. There are better ways to serve your communtiy besides killing people in other lands. Violence only begets more of the same. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:57:13 -0500 From: Gloria Burd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service I find it hard to justify easy access to handguns when children are dying of gunshot wounds every day. I also find it interesting that every other Western country gives children's services very high priority, while here in the U.S., it's defence (euphemism for government-sanctioned violence)--to the tune of $280 billion per annum. And then people wonder why we have so much violence here. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 22:38:28 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Misdirection: (was My former InSight problem) L.D. Best wrote: > > Just wanted everyone to know that, despite suspicions that a redirect > ">NUL" might have caused the problems I had with getting FILES set > correctly, the redirect was not the problem. > <>----- > Now that I've rewritten the line in autoexec to show full path [yeah, I > know I should practice what I preach] that I had honestly *forgotten* > was necessary, I get the number of files I need no matter where I put > the path statement. Darn !! (for me) And good for you LD. I was hoping for some more evidence on the case of misdirected re-direct. This is not an O.T. post about QEMM. The following problem comes about under many conditions - and with DOS 3.3, 5.0 and 6.22. I had just determined how to modify my perfectly good but malfunctioning autoexec to lower the malf level. This sequence fails: (Buffers & files default to 1 & 5 as per config.sys) H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\CED.COM -B1000,500,100,100,100,100 >nul H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\SKN.COM H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\BUFFERS=15 >nul H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\FILES=30 >nul This sequence works: (Buffers & files become 15 & 30) H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\CED.COM -B1000,500,100,100,100,100 >nul H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\SKN.COM H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\BUFFERS=15 H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\FILES=30 This sequence *ALSO* works: (Buffers & files become 15 & 30) H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\CED.COM -B1000,500,100,100,100,100 <---*NO >nul* H:\QEMM5\LOADHI C:\SKN.COM H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\BUFFERS=15 >nul H:\QEMM5\LOADHI H:\QEMM5\FILES=30 >nul The frightening problem is that prior re-directions (way prior!!) seem to be able to affect future operations and in an unpredictable manner. I had a situation where COPY >nul C:\AUTOEXEC.sav C:\AUTOEXEC.bat worked for 2 years until I changed a few lines BEFORE it !! - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:16:03 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: new html file designator I may never be able to use the page, since it is rotten with javascript, but can someone tell me what to modify where/how so that Arachne recognizes a file with the extension "ehtml" as an html file? Right now the page is show strictly as text. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:27:51 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: new html file designator On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 01:16:03 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I may never be able to use the page, since it is rotten with javascript, > but can someone tell me what to modify where/how so that Arachne > recognizes a file with the extension "ehtml" as an html file? > Right now the page is show strictly as text. The file extention does not matter for downloaded pages. The only thig which matters is content-type being transmitted by the server on which the file is located. Visit that page again and press the "=" key. You'll find that the server which sent the file to you is sending content-type: text/plain instead of the correct content-type: text/html The work around: Save the file to disk as what-ever.htm and then view that sved file. Now.... file extention comes into play and Arachne will view it as html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:08:51 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Was something going to be done? I seem to recall, a ways back in time, that someone mentioned Arachne limits the length of the URL string it will send. And someone else said something could/would/couldn't be done about that. I'm faced with the fact that I cannot use some of the web sites otherwise usable [despite javascript] because of the length of the code string that needs to be sent. For instance, I'm trying to map my trip from Ohio to Maryland. It's about 30-35 twists, turns, junctions, whatever depending upon the mapping service I use. But I'm having poor results [and none in one case] because a very precise string has to be sent to the server database to create the route and then match up the maps to each change. This one is 280 characters long. Arachne apparently isn't feeding the whole thing to the server although it's complete in the html code. Note: It's all one line in the html code, but I don't know what the arachne editor or Insight would do if I left it that way. <a href="http://www.mapblast.com/mblast/dDir.mb?CMD=PATH&IC=39.426665: - -84.212695:621:Lebanon%2c+OH:38.994833:-76.885732:620:Greenbelt%2c+MD &OIC=39.426665:-84.212695:621:Lebanon%2c+OH&DIC=38.994833:-76.885732: 620:Greenbelt%2c+MD&OGAD3=Lebanon%2c+OH&DGAD3=Greenb&DU=MI&showman=1"> Show Step by Step Maps</a> Without that data the site simply downloads the original page again. :< Of course, all my dreams of a finished version of Arachne may be wasted if Michael gets drafted. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 22:54:15 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: Troubles with military service On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 02:06:38 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi > "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The best defence is disarmament. > GM> In a perfect world, your statement would be true. > This is NOT a reply to Glenn, but a general message concerning this topic. > Giving everybody weapons is _NOT_ the solution .... > I find it ridiculous that there is a lawyer sues computer game indutry, > because the pupils going crazy are caused by computergames .... > The same games (namely Quake I think) are played here in europe, too, but > here there are no pupils going THAT crazy ... it is the availability of > weapons, that makes them freak out ... In the United States I have met some tourists from England and from Eastern Europe who tell me that it is just as easy to acquire a gun on the black market in their own countries as it is in my country. It is their opinion that the reason why Europeans are not as inclined to commit crimes with guns is that the punishment is more severe in their countries. > In some parts of america you can go on the street with a gun, and nobody > (INCLUDING POLICE !!!) says anything .... In the area where I live, if a person is bearing arms openly and not behaving in a threatening manner toward anyone, then there is no probable cause for the police to consider that person a criminal. If the person were known to be a convicted felon, or a substance-abuser, or a wife-beater, then the police would immediately arrest him. If he were a convicted criminal of the type described, he most probably would have better sense than to bear arms openly anyway. There are unfortunately some areas in the United States, mainly in some big cities, especially in the northeast US, where convicted felons are running around openly brandishing firearms. The only reason why they are getting away with it is that the police and the city councils are corrupt and have been bought by the criminals. The citizens of such communities of course realize this and they are taking steps to correct the problem. > but just try to drink a beer in public, and off you go to jail ... > (this is simply unthinkable for me ....) This is the case in my area, or in any area in the United States where the predominant religious groups are "protestant fundamentalist". These people consider drinking, even in moderation, to be disgraceful and sinful behavior. Because these people constitute the majority, they can impose some of their values on others who do not subscribe to their religion. Most of them would condone, but not approve, one's drinking in a private home, or club, or in a bar. They feel that they should have the right to not associate with people who are drinking. For that reason they feel that it is good to not allow drinking in public. I am not defending their point of view, I am merely explaining it. Personally I feel that the prohibitions against moderate drinking in public constitute a minor infringement on personal liberty. To prohibit a perfectly sober and mentally competent law-abiding citizen from bearing arms in public is a total denial of one's constitutional rights. > And than they show a documentary on german television about police hunting > prostitutes. (a female police officer tries to catch man who want to pay > her .... and THIS in a country, where every few seconds somebody is > MURDERED ...) > IMHO Police should have something better to do than THAT !!! I most certainly agree. > Sorry for my long letter .... > I understand that there are GREAT differences between american and european > culture, and apologize if somebody feels offended, but this is my oppinion > .... > GM> Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA > CU, Ricsi > -- > Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} > -=> Error failed! Press any key to resume error <=- - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1025 ******************************
