First, why should netscape lie? The software gurus don't call it lying,
they call it "transparent" when they mean "invisible." IOW, they don't
think that the 'average user' needs to know a whole bunch of stuff that
is going on, so they don't have software telling user everything that is
going on -- unlike Arachne which can tell you whether it is accessing
DNS, attempting to get a response from the foreign server, connected to
the foriegn server, downloading, paused between packets, etc.
Second, I'll mention MSIE & NS in the same sentence any time I want to
-- they're both predicated upon using the Luze[non]OS and both designed
for 'the average user.' }:>
More ...
On Sat, 06 May 2000 23:02:40 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:
> LB> But back to why I wanted to know the 'size' of the page. 97,887 bytes
> LB> mulitplied by 9 is 880,983 bits. Divide by 19 and that gives a speed
> LB> of 46,368 bps with no 'processing time' required at all.
> LB> And that does *not* take into account the bytes tossed upstream via
> LB> cookies that the site demands for every file!
> LB> I don't think that is very likely.
> ???
> You say, that the page total bytes is 97.887 let's say 100.000
> this is less than 100 KB
> On my connection (let's say on half speed -> 16 KB/s) this would take ca. 7
> sec. raw download time. (let's say 10 seconds ..)
> Add another 7 seconds for the connection making (there are many small
> images), and 2 seconds for page rendering ....
I think someone's math is a bit off.
Wasn't it you that said you were limited by the network to 32,000 bps?
If so, how did NS manage to bypass network limitations and download at faster
than 46,000 bps?
If your speed is 32,000 bps that is NOT bytes! It is bits. Divide that
32,000 bps by 8 [lowest figure possible for bits per byte] and you get
4,000 bytes per second. 97,887 divided by 4,000 is approx 24 so the
quickest you could download the page with zero processing time is 24
seconds.
If you managed only half of max speed, like the '16 KB/s' you use above,
then that download would take at least 48 seconds ... which is one of
the times that Arachne gave me.
Also, to the person who said Arachne seemed to be sleeping during
downloads from the page in question: Turn on the logo animation! If
you did that you would see that the majority of the "sleep time" was
Arachne waiting for the foreign server to respond... Arachne can't do
squat until the server is accessed, so don't blame that type of delay on
Arachne.
l.d.
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