On Tue, 23 May 2000 17:33:01 -000, Mike Millen wrote:
> Would some of you please visit www.channel5.co.uk with Arachne
> and let me know how far they get?
> I have frames enabled but images off. Arachne starts to load
> the page but then goes into a fatal loop of "Loading page from
> disk" and the only way I've found to get out of it is a by hitting
> F4 (or a 3-fingered exit).
> I assume it's another instance of Arachne not successfully
> ignoring the javascript.
> Michael... could you try this site and see what Arachne needs
> to cope with it, please?
Sorry, http://www.channel5.co.uk/ is 100% unusable in Arachne.
The entire site is "flash" and Java Script.
The only portion which is "pure html" are the frame set pages themselves.
Each individaul frame contains nothing but Flash and JS.
(no html in them at-all)
http://www.channel5.co.uk/nojavascript.html
This link says....
<TITLE>Page Not Found</TITLE>
<IMG SRC="/images/404monkey.gif" WIDTH="151" HEIGHT="167">
(nice, cute picture of a stupid looking monkey)
Oooops!
You have come to a page that we can't find for some reason.
E-mail the [EMAIL PROTECTED] letting us know which page was missing,
and we will try and make sure the link is put back in.
Thanks.
Click here to go to the Channel 5 Home page http://www.channel5.co.uk/
(this message is going to the "webmaster")....
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I was taken to this page when I clicked the "no javascript link"
on your "Home page".
http://www.channel5.co.uk/frameset/contentframe.html
Your "no JS" link says....
Oooops!
You have come to a page that we can't find for some reason.
E-mail the [EMAIL PROTECTED] letting us know which page was missing,
and we will try and make sure the link is put back in.
Thanks.
Click here to go to the Channel 5 Home page http://www.channel5.co.uk/
You can't find one of your own pages???
So.....I gather from this that you don't want any business from users
without JS capable browsers.
Not everyone (with money to spend on your services), uses MSIE or NS.
*Many* of them are using "Arachne" or "Nettamer" or some other web browser
which has no JS support. (or flash4 for that matter);-(
By designing your web site in such a manner as to essentially "lock out"
those who don't use JS....
You are "locking out" *many* potential customers.
Among these are several friends of mine in the UK who asked me to
diagnose why your site could not be accessed it with Arachne.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
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*That* should get their attention.
So, I lied. Only 1 person asked about it. And he asked the list, not me.
(sue me)<g>
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Now let's see what's causing this "loop".
Whoa!!!! How about this???
Multiple nested frame sets within muliple nested frame sets.
(I stopped counting at 13 individual frames and 3 more frame sets all
nested within the original page)
This has got to be one the worst desinged sites I have *ever* seen.;-((
Take a look at this...
(this is 3rd of 5 in the original frame set)
<FRAME NAME="middle" SRC="detect_flash4/index.asp?/frameset/index.asp?"
SCROLLING="no" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" NORESIZE BORDERCOLOR="000000">
(this is 3rd of 4 in that 2nd frame set)
<FRAME SRC="detect_flash4.asp?/frameset/index.asp?" NAME="content"
MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" FRAMEBORDER="NO" BORDER="0" SCROLLING="auto"
NORESIZE>
(this is 3rd of 4 in the 3rd frame set)
<FRAME SRC="detect_flash4.asp?/frameset/white.htm" NAME="content"
MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" FRAMEBORDER="NO" BORDER="0" SCROLLING="auto"
NORESIZE>
As you see, 3rd of 4 in the 3rd set would load yet another frame set.
(I didn't bother to check how many more might exist beyond this point)
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