On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:53:57 -0500, "Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:32:39 +0000, Bastiaan Edelman wrote:
>> This morning I used packet radio.
>> Packet radio is the radio amateurs own 'internet' system.
>> The most popular modes are mailing and chatting.
>> Maybe it is possible to convert such a program from the original AX25
>> (is Amateur X25) protocol to internet protocol.
>> Many blind radio amateurs are using it (CB also) so this is possible,
>> but if it is possible or practicle to adapt Arachne from grafics to text
>> only? Or that we should try to adapt BAYCOM (or any other packet radio
>> program) to internet?
>> Maybe there is a radio amateur in your neighborhood using packet radio
>> or you may want to give it a try on CB (providing there is packet
>> activity at your place). Let me know I will send you the program.
>> Bastiaan
> Absolutely Fascinating! I would love to learn more about alternative
> ways of communicating and sharing information. We have no CB packet
> repeater in this area. However, Ham Radio liscences are getting easier
> and easier to get!
Indeed, they are easyer to get.
> If an interface of sorts *is* possible, then it would afford us at least
> some respite from the commercialization of communication. I'm all for
> multimedia, but I'm also against "Big Brother".
Paket radio is a bit like we did on the phone , just a few years ago,
BBS-ing or subscriber to subscriber.
Converting PR to e-mail seems not very difficult.
Of course a dialer has to be added and the switch over send <=> receive
can be dumped.
SMPT and POP aprouch must be changed a bit... it can be done.
> Also-- Would not the broadband emmissions possible in the microwave
> range allow for creation of a local internet "portal" serving many users
> through one high-speed account? No telephone bills. <G>
The mobile telephone companies just paid some US$ 32,000,000,000 at an
auction in the United Kingdom just for the use of some frequencies.
Do you think commercialisation can be halted... no way, this amount of
money must be paid back by the users of mobile phones who like to do WWW
with their mobile phones.
Maybe this leads to a more textual use of the internet.
Graphics on a tiny mobile phone screen? -:))
Broadband is used by amateurs for inter-links between the local access
points, even (amateur) satellites are used to cross the oceans.
The service is free but only open to licensed amateurs.
73 Bastiaan, PA3FFZ (73 means Best Wishes)
PS Pete, I forgot to mention that "an interface of some sorts" is indeed
possible and exists!
In Europe contacts (by radio) between hams and the outside world are
stricktly prohibited but in the US such contacts are allowed.
A few years ago we could upload WWW e-mails in packet radio to a station
in France (most likely owned by an American studying or lecturing at a
French university). From France PR was uploaded to Houston USA and
inseterted into the World Wide Web.
So there must have been an interface in Houston... does Houston have a
university for communication or electronics? They may know more about
this.
The system was awfully slow and instable but IMHO the cause did not had
a technical nature but a political one since it operated on the edge of
legal/unlegal. But it worked and the interfacing is possible.
This 'experiment' is endend now but maybe (probably) still excists in
the USA for it might be legal there to couple internet and packet radio.
I don't know the details any more but the call sign of the French
station that relayed the email to Houston was F6CNB-8.
F = France
6 = automated digital station
CNB = suffix (name of the station)
-8 = port 8 .... leading to Houston
Well, that's all for now... HPE CUAGN Bastiaan
- Pete Randolph -
> - Morristown Corners, Vermont -
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