On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:13:26 +0700 (JAVT), Eko Priono wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:58:00 +0000, Bastiaan wrote:
>>> With Arachne, you could simply add "AfterPOP3 smtp://:25/"
>> Oh no... not solved at all.
>> This makes no difference except that the manual tricking
>> them out by first using POP and after that SMTP is now
>> 'automated'.
> Then your SMTP server is not authenticated by accessing the
> POP3 server. Just one question: Do you access it from the
> *same* ISP? If not, then you're an outsider, and the SMTP
> server is acted as a closed-relay MX (Mail eXchanger). It
> will only accept incoming mail, and won't forward to another
> server.
Yes the SAME ISP that is supposed to:
1- give access to the world wide web.... is OK
2- receive e-mail... is OK
3- send e-mail... not OK
4- I did not try newsgroups or chatting
To connect 1,2,3 (4?) you should use the same special telephone number,
it is not a free service. They are paid by the special telephone bill
also used for carrier select calling.
>> 250 mail02.onetelnet.nl ...
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Hello 1Cust141.tnt16.rtm1.nl.uu.net [213.53.6.141], pleased
> ^^^^^^^^
> Looks like you trying to use Onetel's mail server from an RTM1
> account ? Is Onetel a public mail provider? Some free email
> are POPable, but has no SMTP support; the only way to send is
> by using their web-based mail interface.
What is an RTM1 account? I pay them and am a registered customer for
their telephone services.
>> RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok
> This means that the address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is accepted
> as destination, your message will be delivered to this addresss.
There is not much use in sending a message to one-self.. is it?
>> RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
> Because you use Onetel SMTP server from an "outsider" account,
> this server only act as a receiver. Domains other than Onetel
> won't be accepted. Your message will never reach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
That's what is bothering me... I am not using the SMTP server from an
outsider account but a registered user using their special phonenumber
and giving password and username.
>> 250 AAM34477 Message accepted for delivery
> This really meant for the Onetel address, not VRZA.
>>> < +OK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> What do the numbers before @pop3 mean?
> Just a Qmail (the mail server) session ID I guess. Mail clients
> only see the first "+" or "+OK" (and "-" or "-ERR" respectively
> in case of error), the rest are ignored.
> --Eko
All the details they give you are for using M$ products like expres and
outlook... and if you do what they ask you... then go to:
http://setup.onetelnet.nl/ and they will cofigure YOUR PC.
Do you like that... someone else changing and bumbling in your PC?
Well I don't!
But I tried to configure Outlook and connect to Onetelnet. And activated
the password authentification... but no luck !
Relaying *still* denied !!
Well, I am a bit fed up with this ISP!
Why am I trying anyway... much easier to take another ISP.
But maybe more ISP's will follow and than we need an answer to this SMTP
nonsence.
Anyway I still use the old ISP... slow but working (sometimes).
Bastiaan
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-- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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