On 5 Oct 00 at 21:21, arachne-digest wrote:
> From: "Carl Wheeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am able to receive and send mail via Onfree when using Outlook
> Express, but so far I only have been able to receive mail from Onfree
> when using Arachne Insight. I haven't been able to send mail via Onfree
> from Arachne Insight--and this is when using Onfree as my ISP.
> In setting up Outlook Express, Onfree Support told me to make sure that
> I had the box checked in Outlook Express that says "My server requires
> authentication." I suppose this is why I can't send mail from Arachne.
mailandnews.com has gone the same route, as stated on its home page.
Last time I logged onto 1nol and tried to send email via its smtp
host, it failed. I wonder if this is some sort of trend.
I guess it's good that the ISP's and email providers are making an effort
to cut down on abuse. Too bad it is making things difficult for us along
the way.
I can understand why an email provider such as mailandnews would need
extra security. But I don't know why an ISP needs it. You generally have
to dial in via the ISP's own dialup service in order to use the ISP's smtp
host. So why does the ISP want additional "authentication"?
I recently wrote to Marc Ressl, author of NetMail for DOS, asking whether
his pgm does smtp authentication. He says the freeware version doesn't,
but he could add it for a price. (He didn't say how much, and I didn't
ask.)
Seems to me this is all the more reason that someone in the DOS world
should try to emulate the clever functionality of Linux/Unix "sendmail",
which does not depend on a designated smtp host. It just goes out and
finds an smtp host in the recipient's domain, and skips the middleman.
Most of the time that works pretty well, and in the rare case it doesn't,
there's a simple workaround. For example, I frequently write to a user of
coil.com . If I address the msg to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", sendmail first tries
to connect to the mail server bronze.coil.com . A few minutes later,
after failing to make the connection, it tries pico.concourse.com and then
the msg goes through. But if I use the ancient format
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]", sendmail contacts the right email host
right away.
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