Hi Roger,

FWIW,  Compuserve 'Classic' accounts do support scripted dial in and PPP
connections at the end of the dial in to get you on the web and as you say,
they  don't much care what software you do or don't use to do that. :).
As you mentioned you're sort of just 'passing through' CompuServe at
that point, not really 'on Compuserve' (the service) to be on the web, as
with other ISPs.

The 7E1 connections go back to the early financial networks that were
the base of Compuserve and the 'standards' of those days.

Compuserve '2000', V6 and AOL accounts do 'require' use of their software
and they don't support connection with dial in scripts other than their own.

CompuServe's forums do use HMI, but it's not graphics, it's a communications
protocol designed years ago for the forums and is supported in their DOS
and Windows software and in various DOS and Windows based 'Offline readers'
Compuserve forums are also web accessible but need a Javascript enabled
browser..

Compuserve Classic accounts can also setup a POP3 mail box that doesn't
appear to have the 100 message limit of Compuserve's old (ascii) or New mail
systems, but you will need to log in via Windows if I recall, one time, to setup
the password to use with your 'Personal Address' name for your classic account.

Bob  Bucklnd  ?:-)
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  <<Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:07:44 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Connection

 <<Yes, Compuserve *does* require 7E1 to access Compuserve and I, too, don't 
know why.

No, Compuserve does not require Windoze or their software to access 
Compuserve.  I access Compuserve from DOS using ProComm Plus, or DOSCIM 
(Compuserve's DOS information manager).  The only problem with using ProComm 
Plus is that most of Compuserve's fora (that still exist as fora) require HMI 
(graphics) that ProComm Plus doesn't support.  I can, and do, access 
Compuserve Mail, Member, Phones, and some other fora using ProComm Plus, 
which is my preferred method of accessing these fora.  Using DOSCIM, which 
does support HMI, I can access the fora that still exist (but can't do what I 
used to do using the old BBS style of Compuserve).  I use TAPCIS for mail 
thru Compuserve, although I could use any text editor to create mail and 
upload it using ProComm Plus.

I access the internet thru Compuserve as a gateway using Arachne, without 
stopping at Compuserve.  For all intents and purposes, Compuserve is 
invisible while using the internet.  I cannot see what the differences would 
be using any other ISP as a gateway to the internet.

My big gripe with Compuserve is that the mailbox will hold only 100 messages, 
which means that if I don't download my mail at least daily (I subscribe to 
two very active listservices), some mail addressed to me might be returned.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA>>


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