On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:58:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote:
>>
>> Even in my own case, and I do try to write for
>> cross-browser usage, it's very hard to justify 30% of my time on a
>> website to cater for around 1 to 2% of the visitors. And that's
>>just the
>> personal sites where I do it mainly for the love of it. On
>>Commercial
>> sites, if I want to provide cross-browser support, I have to do it
>>kind
>> of as a covert and unpaid for operation, most clients will NOT pay
>>for a
>> re-write to suit such a small group of potential users. It's very
>>hard
>> to get clients to stand for a text only page alternative if you
>>cost it
>> in, even pointing out it's for visually impaired users.
>
>Hi Neil;
>I have a problem understanding the above.
>
>A simple HTML page without js should be EASY to write and would
>display
>on all browsers whether images are included or not, wouldn't it ?
>
>What's the problem with the "Anybrowser" standard ?
>Is there a legitmate NEED for js ?
>Is there a legitimate USE for flash or shock ?
>
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Hi Clarence,

Just as there's no NEED for a Porsche or a Lamborghini (is that a car 
or a disease, grin!) , I agree there's no need for js or dhtml on a 
webpage, or shock or whatever, but the fact is that as you well know, 
the web is moving so fast that if you can't/won't produce pages using 
it, then  you are "obsolete" along with the DOS machines!

What I'm simply trying to point out is that much as I like (even 
love) the concept of Arachne as a DOS based browser, it is and will 
most likely remain a niche market product, and in order to produce 
"flashy" [as in chrome-plated with tail fins and shift -sticks] pages 
for client customers, then web designers will naturally use the 
latest techniques that they can, whether they are retro compatible or 
not. That's what makes them money, not catering for the minority of 
non js/dhtml/css/flash/ browsers, but catering for the M$ user. 
Notice that at the present time M$ is dominant because Netscrap Gecko 
is definitely sticky in version 6.0. 

My personal view is that Uncle Bill WILL own the world one day VBG! 
after all he does have an income equivalent to that of a small 
country as we type, where else can he go from there?

Clients for webpages don't want simple html that looks good in all or 
ANYBROWSER compatible HTML, they want pizzazz and the latest shocko 
type stuff. If somebody came up with streaming smelly files 
to-morrow, then I reckon 35% of the world's big websites would have 
it on line by next week!

Think about it Yyyeuch. Logon to MacDonalds and have the smell of a 
big mac wafting through the house. Or the French Fromage Society 
site? Or worst of the lot, what about your local City Council Garbage 
Department site?

Let's call it "some.roma" as a suitable file format. Now who's good 
enough to make it work.

Regards

Mel   
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