On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 21:29:09 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Arachne4Dos wrote:
>>
>> Hi Clarence,
>>
>> Just as there's no NEED for a Porsche or a Lamborghini (is that a
>>car
>> or a disease, grin!) , I agree there's no need for js or dhtml on
a
>> webpage, or shock or whatever,
>
>Hi Neil;
>
>I guess I'll let the rest of your argument pass as our viewpoints
are
>too divergent - but I truly, seriously, object to your drawing any
>kind
>of a parallel with js and my (I wish) Porsche. <G>
>There IS a "need" for a "real" car.
>
>
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Ron and I have "real" cars! None of your poncey soft-top speed boxes!
Get yourself a Pajero (Shogun), from Mitsubishi, or a Trooper from
Isuzu, or a Colorado from Toyota. A big diesel engined one!
They go most anywhere, up hills, through houses and whatever. And
they are all fitted with tow hooks at the back to tow in broken down
Porsches and Lambos. 8>))
I'm not being divergent just for the sake of it Clarence, I do like
and use Arachne, it's just becoming less viable commercially as time
goes on.
Jake (JJ Young) makes the point of telling website owners how easy it
is to "adjust" for anybrowser compatibility, but it still
"takes time =costs money" for a website designer who *CAN* do it to
actually go on and do it, and clients don't want to pay even the
slightest extra for this sort of job. As I said, I can see why, most
companies will happily write off the loss of 1% of 1% of their
potential sales to end up with 1% of 90%. It's worth a lot more to
them than paying 20 to 30% of their costs to cover that 1% of
customers.
Figure it on time alone. If it takes a total of 30 hours to produce a
complete website with some js, some css, some dhtml and some xml,
then to offer alternate pages, or even just going back to comment out
the js and put in small alternate html paragraphs will most certainly
involve ANY designer in around an absolute minimum of 3 to 6 hours
work, and that's wnot really including a full test of the site with
js and non-js (and the rest) browsers.
So a fifth extra of the cost will mean you don't get the job, the
other guy gets it who doesn't figure in for anybrowser compatibility.
And as I have said, that's just the guys who know how to design for
older browsers. There's a whizzo group of designers coming up who
have only used js and the rest, just like there are PC end-users who
don't know DOS even exists. These "new kids on the block" will ONLY
produce using the stuff they know.
Regards
Mel
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