---(begin quote)
Back in the good old days all homes were built only by real men.
Real men are tough-handed. You can even drive nails through the
palms of a real man. He will suffer the most excruciating pain,
but he won't get squeemish about it. Such is the way of a real
man and a real carpenter. A real man and a real carpenter knows
how to handle the rough stuff. He can conquer anything. Also he
knows how to be very gentle.
Sam Heywood
---(end of quote)
Ouch!
Anybody who talks like that ought to be crucified<g>.
If that's your definition of a real man, count me proud of my femininity!