I fully understand that.  I wasn't stating that the setup programs that some
ISPs provide are to be used exclusively.  I presently use Earthlink, but
don't use their setup stuff.  I prefer to do it all from scratch, with a
minimalistic approach.  Why should they install stuff that I don't use.  So,
I feed my phone number, login, password, and DNS servers into the PPP setup
screen, and I'm good to go.

As far as the other questions regarding DOS TCP/IP apps with AOL and
AOL-like systems, I doubt you can, unless the program offers support with
WinSock (or WinSock2).  Otherwise, I think you're SOL.  But, I'm not
positive, but it's probably not worth your trouble trying to work things out
with and AOL-type service.  If you're using DOS, you better get a real
service :-)

-- Rob

on 7/17/01 3:40 AM, Samuel W. Heywood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 00:41:29 -0700, Bacchaus Anew wrote:
> 
>> AOL, CompuServe, and MSN are the only pseduo-ISPs I know of.  Earthlink is
>> not, however they do provide proprietary software, which is essentially
>> wizards and front-ends to configuring your internet settings.  Any software
>> that assigns you an IP address (as AOL, CompuServe, and MSN do) can be used
>> with any TCP/IP software.  I believe that you can even use AOL to connect
>> under Win9x, and in a DOS-box, run Arachne.  Hope that helps clear up a
>> little confusion.
> 
> Hello Rob:
> 
> Lots of ISPs will provide their subscribers with a CD-ROM to facilitate
> EZ-setup for use with Windows or Macs.  Shentel also offers free setup
> CD-ROMS.  You don't have to use their setup software.  You can spin
> your own stuff if you want and you can have it your way, but you have
> to know where everything is and you have to add the stuff or remove it
> yourself.  If you are having problems, they won't help you unless you
> want to have yours with all the ingredients and condiments they
> recommend.  You can have it your way if you want, but they won't help
> you to have it your way.  If you want to deal with folks who will most
> cheerfully go out of their way to help you to have it your way, then
> you will have to consult the friendly staff at Burger King.  Why can't
> tech support personnel at ISPs follow their example?
> 
> Sam Heywood
> 
> -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/

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