On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:27:09 +0000 (GMT), Mithgol the Webmaster wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:47:27 -0400 (GMT), Clarence Verge wrote:

>> Hello Mithy;

> Hello Clarence, and plz stop calling me that; I'm "Mithgol"

Oooohh. Nice to be openly corresponding with another touchy and
opinionated personality. Welcome to our special little world.;-)
I hope the above response is taken by Mithgol the Webmaster as
an attempt at humor. If you don't like bad humor in your email
maybe you should have your medication reviewed. <g>
Oops, sorry, I'm off to grab a little tranquilizer myself. BRB.

> I really don't know what that ZBMs are, but I found 256-color GIF
> to be unfortunately insufficient to demonstrate some minor Arachne
> issues related to graphics, e.g. noisy behaviour of background seen
> through fake-transparent GIF.

A .ZBM is a zipped bitmap. Set in /etc/mime.types:
image/x-zbitmap                 zbm

> As I've already mentioned on the same webpage example, the unclean
> URL bar is just a side-effect of CP1251.APM fonts that are a bit
> larger than Arachne fonts of size 1 (since v1.65). I've never heard of any
> Russian user of Arachne preferring the fourth (minimalized)

How about the fifth ? fullscreen ?

> Arachne screen layout - frankly speaking, Arachne is not popular here
> around me as I may notice, due to domination of MS IE... - that's why
> I think it may be possible for me to be the first one who ever noticed
> the bug.
> The bug is, that Arachne "thinks" her font of size 1 may not ever be
> higher than Western standard one; that her opinion is definitely wrong.

Michael is aware of a fontsize problem.

> And it could happen that they who noticed the bug before were just
> so impressed by the integral effect of the whole set of bugs that
> they just refused to use Arachne once for ever, without any report
> to the author. Another good idea is that they just didn't know
> English enough to explain what they did found to be inconvenient
> in the soft.

Opinions vary, but I.E. has more serious bugs than Arachne.
Just curious. Do you send bug reports to Redmond ?

> The white noise on images is just a page background. Download my own
> homepage http://mithgol.complife.net/ and then turn background image
> off and set bgcolor to be red - you'll force former white noise
> to become solid red noiseless ;-)

> O.K. I'll do it for you - go watch
> http://mithgol.complife.net/ara-bug.htm

Got a 404. Is that a bug ?

> all GIFs there are the same, and the page background is RED!
> Look at the octagons and you'll see lots of excessive RED points
> as well, if the whiter ones look too beautiful for you...

> Fake transparency is OBVIOUS, at least in VESA 800x600 modes I proved
> it to be obvious, and it is not a video card bug since it is visible
> on Print Screen BMP resulting file. It is a result of GIF rendering
> in Arachne...

> It has to be Arachne bug, because both MSIE and Netscape interpret
> these GIFs correctly and I've never heard of browser wars to do
> anything concerning GIF standard ;-)))

You may have a valid bug there, although I have never noticed the
effect myself. I, and probably others, will look for it.

>> The HTML rendering errors I'll take your word for and I'm sure we
>> will have some interesting discussions about each point.

> Bugs are something to be corrected, not a point for discussion, eh? ;-)

Eh ? <g>
The discussion is useful for separating common and reproduceable bugs
from the "special effects". If I haven't ticked you off too much this
time, maybe we could put some effort into examining in detail ONE of
the "bugs" you reported. Pick one and demo it.  Please make sure the
demo works on some computer other than your main one. ;-)

>> Thanks for taking the time and effort to present this in a useful
>> manner.

> Does anybody know whether Michael Polak is subscribed to the list?..
> The question is important because he is the one who is to deal with
> all that word-wrapping, GIFs, CSS etc. At least I've always thought
> he is to, since he is "Arachne author", isn't he? ;-)

I doubt he reads this list much these days. At least he makes some
effort to be invisible.<g>
Yes, in the final analysis Michael will be the one to deal with problems
he feels are well defined and important enough to deal with. But don't
be surprised if he feels some new feature is more important to work on
than a bug which doesn't happen to bother him right now.

And since he doesn't use DOS anymore....

-  Clarence Verge.
-- Using Arachne 1.66 on DSL.

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