On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:08:30 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> > One glaring shortcoming is the section on security.
>> > True, if you follow their suggestion to disable all
>> > services, you're pretty secure... but if you do that,
>> > you're throwing away a good deal of what makes Linux
>> > such a great OS.

>> OK...
>> I have heard this statement from others as-well.

>> Could you possibly name some of the services you are reffering to?

> As you get into Linux more, you'll discover the desire
> to run servers... possibly a web server, or maybe an ftp
> server, or how about a simple news server.   Maybe allow
> friends to log onto your machine using ssh, or hie back
> to bygone days by running a gopher server.  ;-)

>> And then explain what it is that the "average user" would be
>> thowing away by not using those sevices ?

> The most common server with a known exploit is lpd:
> http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2001-30.html

> IOW, if you have a printer, you'll be running a print
> server.  If you don't know how to put it behind a
> firewall, or even that you may need to, you're exposing
> yourself to the very real probability that someone will
> gain control of your machine.

Yes, I have a printer.
Yes, The print server is started every time I boot into Linux.

How is someone else going to access my machine
through *only* my print server?

No. I do not have any of the other "servers" running.
(no ftp, no http, no news)

Since this machine is not connected to the internet
or to an intranet via a "server" of any kind.
It only connects when I choose to do so.
And then ONLY with pppd and a web browser/eMail client.
(I do not use either fetchmail or sendmail)

Unless someone else sits in THIS chair and uses THIS keyboard.
THIS machine is 100% safe from attack.

Q: What have I "thown away" by not allowing others to access
   my machine via an HTTP or FTP server?
A: Nothing.


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