Hello Richard:

On Sun. Apr 2002 21:43:09 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:

> Hi Samuel!

> 21 Apr 2002, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<snip>

>>> pop3s           995/tcp                         # POP-3 over SSL
> SH> I don't know what simap is and I don't understand the command
> SH> syntax example above.  I am just a newbie to Linux and Unix.
> it simply means that secure pop uses port 995
> and simap is a spelling mistake from me ... IMHO it should be imaps
> meaning secure IMAP (IMAP is a more modern email reading protocol than pop)

This must be something really new to me.  I have experience in
using PC-PINE for DOS for connecting to an ordinary IMAP server.
There probably aren't any free IMAPS servers and also there
probably aren't any DOS-based email clients that will work with
IMAPS.

> eg. somebody changes maliciously the DNS information for your server, and
> points it to another host.

> SSH will warn you that the key has changed, sshdos does not (it seems).

Isn't this particular type of attack, known as "server-spoofing",
very difficult to conduct successfully,  and therefore quite unlikely
to occur?

> SH> Now I know that SSH is a *replacement* for Telnet to use for
> SH> connecting to remote sites that have SSH protocol running.
> yes ...
> (PS: ssh can also compress the data ...
> and you can make tunnels ... *VERY* handy feature)

I don't know what is meant by "tunnels" in this context.  I have
come accross the term before in reference to computer communications,
but I don't understand nor can I interpret or infer the meaning.

> SH> For connecting to sites which do not have SSH protocol installed, one
> SH> still has to use ordinary Telnet.

> are such sites still found ???

Oh yes, there are lots of them here.  One such example is
"linuxfreemail.com".  If you sign up for a free account at
"http://www.linuxfreemail.com";  You can run Linux PINE in Telnet
session, but you can't get into the site "linuxfreemail.com" with an
SSH Client.  You have to use ordinary Telnet.  BTW, I have found the
Linux versions of PINE installed on remote servers to work just like
the DOS versions.   The Telnet site at "linuxfreemail.com" works great,
and also their POP3 service works, but their web-based interface at
"http://www.linuxfreemail.com"; hasn't worked well at all for about
a month, even if you access it using the latest and greatest Window$
browsers.  It used to work fine for almost any browser, including
Arachne, before they decided to "fix" it because it was working.  I
don't think the www interface will work correctly right now no matter
whatever browser you use for accessing the site.  It is FUBAR.  BTW,
do Europeans know the meaning of this popular US military acronym?
It means "fouled up beyond all recognition".

> I only have heared of sites which disallow telnet in favour of ssh, not
> ivce versa.

I haven't heard of any sites which allow SSH but deny access to Telnet.

>>> You write a JAVA applet/application and you can use it as is on many
>>> OSes and computer architectures. This is the opposit of windows.
> SH> I have never heard of Java applications or applets running in DOS.
> it is "just" the matter of writing a JAVA VM.
> And I have heared of a project which wants to do that for DOS. (but I have
> no URL)

I surely wish that somebody would "just" do it for DOS.

> PS: there are Micro Java VMs which run in 32 KB memory on embedded devices!

> SH> If this were possible I would suppose many of us would have heard
> SH> of such things and we would be using them.
> It would be very hard to write.
> The JAVA VM relies on many OS services which DOS does not provide by
> itself.
> Java uses threads, memory protection, sockets etc. extensively.

> A quick google search revealed that:
> http://www.thisiscool.com/doswaba.htm

> a subset of the java VM (no threads, no exceptions ...)

Regards,

Sam Heywood
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