On Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:24:01 +0000, Laurie L Proud wrote:

> Hi List,

> Many thank's for the useful information folk's.  CTRL P brings up
> nice goodies in 1.71UE01.

> Glenn, My Virtual screensize is 12000

Since that number is how many "lines" the screen can be.
That's going to require a lot of memory.

Even at 640x480 256color.
12000 x 640 = 7,680,000 pixels.

In Hicolor mode... multiply that by 3 bytes per and you get 23,040,000
just for the pixels. (plus a little bit for "overhead")

At 1024x768 Hicolor.....
1024 x 12000 x 3 = 36,864,000 plus overhead.

Of coarse, tht's only going to be used if you have a pge to create a
screen shot of which is 15.625 "pages" long. (over 15 hits of the
pagedown key to view the whole thing at 1027x768)

This message is just a little over 4 "pages" at 800x600 hicolor.
I'll create a screen shot and see how big the BMP is.

 Volume in drive L is MS-RAMDRIVE
 Directory of  L:\ARACHNE

4-PAGES  BMP  5704914 12-06-02 10:00p

800 x 600 x 3 x 4 = 5,700,000
(since it was a little over 4 pages,
a little more than that is the final size of the BMP)

> At the HTML+gif complete page - CTRL P

> There are several options available:

> Export as BMP, changing PAGE.BMP to c:\arachne\somedir\micdoc.bmp
> click on export.

> Arachne proceeds, but no file created.  Leaving it as default PAGE.BMP
> does create a BMP of the whole document in the download directory.

> So were half way there.

I had it "locked" to the download directory.
Change this line in mime.cfg

file/exportbmp.dgi      |[100]COPY /b _4prt.bmp $w$s>NUL \n del _4prt.bmp
(__________________________ remove the $w ______^^)

This will "unlock" it and allow you to save to any drive/directory.
(so long as that directory already exists)

The only draw-back is that now you will have to specify a drive and
directory every time. If you don't specify one... the file will be
saved into the current directory. (your arachmne_main dir)

> Converting to JPG would be nice to save space on the harddisk, I get
> Dos error "bad command or file name" when I click on convert.

You must have Cjpeg.exe in your path for this to work.
file/bmp2jpg.dgi     |[100]cjpeg -q 95 _4prt.bmp \n del _4prt.bmp

> Clicking on Preview get's a red box.  Thats a novelty..haven't had a red
> box for ages.

"Preview BMP" will give you a tred box after you tried convertiong to
JPG because that line in mime.cfg deleted the original BMP.

> Having a quick look in MIME.CFG there is a pile of what looks like
> relevent stuff. Do I need to change anything.

See above. <g g g>

> It looks encouraging as the options available @ CTRL P do what I want
> but I think I need to re-configure Arachne slightly.

Only one change is needed in mime.cfg (removal of $w)
[if you don't mind always needing to specify the drive and directory)

The other change is not to Arachne itself but to
simply make sure that Cjpeg.exe is in your path.

> Could we have a "dummy's guide to options available at CTRL P"
> please Glenn ?? Which includes a check list of any other settings that
> need to be changed in order to get the options to work.

AFAIK, those are the only 2 changes.

> Ron, "*" That was useful, I normaly F5 and cycle through, Your way saves
> my fingers.

> Generaly:

> I haven't any DOS imaging software for editing or printing saved images
> however theres Wangimg lurking in W95 which will import an exported
> JPG image or a BMP using windows central print services (if I could
> persuade www.HP.COM to give me a driver for the Deskjet 500 for W95
> rather than the mountain of Javascript I got yesterday)

PrintGf works great with a Deskjet 500.
I know because I used to have one of those too.

http://www.concentric.net/~ravitz/
v1.32m is dated Aug 18, 2002 and is in a ZIP of only 295,502 bytes.
This ZIP includes BOTH the Dos executable AND the windows executable.
(now that's what I call anti-bloat)<g g g>

> Yes I agree in order for Arachne to work with printers drivers would
> have to be included with the program.

PrintGf has drivers for about 97million printers.
(that's an exageration... but not by much)<g g g>

>  My assumption was based on the
> fact that we have all used the rinky-dink DOS wordprocessors from the
> mid-late 80's you know the type shipped on a 730K floppy. There was
> always a modest selection of printers from which to "install", a 9-pin
> dot matrix, a daisy wheel, etc.  There was usualy an option for an
> HP Deskjet. I assumed this was the same in Arachne.

> Getting printout of text is one thing, graphics from the web is another,
> which makes the driver requirement more complecated, so I do see the
> difficulty.

Not difficult at-all if you click the above link. :))

> However, although you might not want to print regulary, it does seem
> logical that you would need the option to make a hard copy of
> information you have just found.
RedX-
> I thank you all for helping me with this.

> Regards Laurie

> -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

-- 
 Glenn
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