Hi Greggy,
           maybe you are right... in 2 computers their is a drive but no
CD-ROM in the drive. The 3rd computer has not even a drive fitted and I
did remove any reference to CD drivers... but did I realy remove all??

You never know how the partially Win system acts and what it hides?
Last week I send Laurie a printerdriver but he misses a few related
driver files (please be patient a bit Laurie)... so you never know with
Win-stuff.

I will try to make a lock-up and wait for a long time just to see what
happens. Is there any known log-file so we can see/detect what is going
wrong at that lock-up???

CU Bastiaan


On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:19:14 -0700, G J Feig wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>> While I was experimenting with boot GUI=0 I did find I had the
>>>> famous "My computer IKN" problem with a hard lock up when I clicked the
>>>> IKN, and I haven't got a CD installed.

> WHOA...!!! podner..!!!  hmmm...well, sheeesh..!!!...I have MISSED
> something here.  This was in the back of my mind, nagging me at a
> low level.
> See my next post, SUBJECT:  WHOA..!!!  CDROM IKN

> Yeah...I'm pretty numb...if what I think is happening.

> FIRST:

> Bastiaan, et al...

> You are running Arachne on a computer that has W9x installed, and
> you are using the DOS the under-lies that...??

> And..you see a CDROM IKN on the "Accessable Drives" page, after
> clicking "Your Computer"....???

> But...you do NOT have an actual CD-ROM drive in that computer..???
> ....or...do you mean that you have no CD in an existing drive...??

> hmmm....if either of these is true...then it is possible that
> Arachne is not locking up at all.  What IS possible is that the
> underlying DOS is going out to access ALL the drives (to give
> you a roster/list of them) and getting hung there, when it
> cannot find that CD-ROM drive, or it has no CD in it.

> How so..???  Consider.  Arachne does NOT determine/register/list
> or whatever, the components that are in your computer.  Arachne
> only asks the OperatingSystem for ITS list.  The OS then has to
> go around and collect a list to give to Arachne.  Actually, it
> should already have that list, right after boot up.

> Now...if that CDROM IKN is shown in Arachne, then something IS
> telling Arachne that that drive IS there, even though there is
> not one installed, or it has no CD in it.  That "something"
> telling Arachne about that CDROM drive has to be the W9x GUI.

> I do NOT run Arachne on w9x, but I have customers using w9x, and
> I have it on one of my boxes.  I have found that s9x sometimes
> messes up its registry and had drivers loaded for nonexistent
> items, and duplicates, and ... and....all manner of other nasty
> things.

> It may be that w9x has a CD-ROM drive registered, which isn't realy
> there, or one which does not have a CD in it,  which w9x knows how
> to ignore, but its underlying DOS 7.0 does NOT know how to ignore....
> so...when you click "Your Computer"...Arachne asks the DOS for a list
> and DOS goes to find it...and gets into that rather long search
> that usually gives back an error "Drive A: not ready - abort, retry,
> fail" (but in this case it's the cdrom drive that's missing or not
> ready).
> ...
> This may be only a wild figment of my feeble imagination....but..
> ...see what you think, and what you can find....
> Maybe if you wait long enough (during the supposed lockup) the DOS
> will finally come back with that "Drive not ready" error message..

> ......gregy

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