On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Richard Menedetter wrote: > Hi sheywood! > > 02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even > >> SH> President Bush will sign his approval of it. > >> Sam ... I really like your sense of humour !!! > >> Have litterally been laughing out loud for many minutes ... > >> that EVEN is sooooo wonderful ... > s> What I said was not intended as a humorous comment at all. > Bush (both) are known here for doing everything lobbyists want. > Be it the RIAA, the NRA, or the weapon (rocket etc.) lobby (does Iraq war > and star wars program sound a bell ?)
The NRA is a lobby, yes, but it is a people's lobby, a grass-roots lobby. Most all of their money comes from donations by private citizens and ordinary folks. The NRA is not driven by industrial interest groups. > > s> It was a serious critical comment. > >From the outside it looks really ridicolous, because this law is exactly what > we believe Bush wants. > > even W signs it would be interesting, if it were the Kyoto climate protocol, > social security or human rights ... > THIS would be noteworthy !!! > > For the comments he made at the kyoto conference, W should have been shot, > strangled, shot directly into the sun without oxygen ...... > I did not know that "land of the free" implied the freedom to destroy the > planet we are living on. > > But again ... Americans don't seem to care. > The reason why industrial plants in Japan have modern anti-pollution technology is that they were built with money given to them by the US so that they could rebuild their economy after WWII. In the US we still have many factories and power plants in full production and operating under pre-1940 technology. > s> Republicans are always saying that support of free enterprise > sure they do ... they support sony, time warner, microsoft .... Why would they support Micro$oft? Bill Gates is well known for his liberal political views. He made big donations to the Democratic Party. The Clinton administration prosecuted him anyway. Bill Gates is still a liberal politically. Maybe he likes the Democrats because the prosecutors went very easy with him and let him get away with a lot of stuff. Bill Gates and Micro$oft are certainly just as bad as the Republican Rockefellers who ran Standard Oil of New Jersey. The Rockefellers didn't get away with anything. They threw the book at them. The courts forced Standard Oil to split up completely. > s> and innovation is a cornerstone of their political philosophy. > which political party does *NOT* claim this ?? > > s> Here they are being inconsistent in coming out in favor of a law which > s> would stifle competition in the development of computer software and > s> hardware and operating systems. > on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can > (theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware. If someone develops "open source" TCPA compliant software and hardware then anyone can remove the TCPA parts and recompile it or re-design it to suit their own needs. > > s> How can a GOOD Republican support the DMCA and the TPCA? > he gets money from the RIAA. > > >> SH> It is my opinion that the law, if passed, would soon be repealed > >> SH> due to popular protest. > >> Where is the american protest ?? > s> The only reason you don't find many Americans protesting is that > s> most of them don't even know about the DMCA and TPCA. > But whos fault is this ?? It is the fault of the American News Media for neglecting to publicize it. On most controversial issues the news channels hold debates and panel discussions so that the public will hear both sides of the issues. I haven't heard EITHER side of this issue from the news media. I didn't even know of the existence of this issue until just recently. > > There are 2 possibilities: > 1) american journalists make the info available, but Americans don't bother to > inform themselves > 2) american journalists don't make the info available > > So whos fault is it ??? > > s> I didn't find out about it untill just recently by your posting about > s> it on this mailing list. > This is exactly what I'm talking about. > IMHO this is really a shocking fact, and a extremely poor thing for a country. > > >> America was thinking about the DMCA. > >> In Europe it was immediately discussed, and opposed. > >> America introduced the DMCA. > >> Europe still opposed it. > >> Most americans seem not even to have *NOTICED* it. > s> We don't NOTICE it because it isn't being widely mentioned and > s> commented upon here. > What shadow does this cast about journalism in the land of the free ?? > > s> Only a very few Americans know about it. > sad ... REALLY sad > > If this would have happened in an african dictatorship, than it would be > understandable ... but in america which claims to have free journalism ?? > > SH>> If it is not repealed I think it would be overturned by the > SH>> courts due to concerns as to its constitutionality and over > SH>> concerns about how it violates the anti-monopoly laws. > >> Has not yet happened with the DMCA. > s> A law cannot be repealed or overturned until after it is passed. > The DMCA has been passed a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago > 1 year. > > s> Before a proposed law is passed it could be killed in committee, which > s> is probably what would happen with this proposed law if enough > s> Americans were aware that such legislation were under serious > s> consideration. > again ask yourself *WHY* nobody cared, and how much money went into bribing > american journalists. > And how is this possible. > > >> So they need TPCA. > >> As long as you have TCPA computers Joe average will NOT be able to > >> copy. > s> Joe Average knows that it is of course a very simple thing to capture > s> an audio output and copy it onto any media he wants, whether to an > s> audio cassette, a reel-to-reel tape, a CD, or even to a vinyl record. > s> DMCA and TPCA technology will not be an effective preventative for > s> copyright theft. > yes they will. > EVERYTHING will be encrypted. > there will be TCPA chips in the monitor, the speakers etc. > So the only possibility would be to film the monitor, or put a microphone > infront of the speakers. > That really sux. What if you want to hook up some super quality speakers and earphones to your audio equipment instead of using just the cheaply built hardware provided by some PC-manufacturer? > >> Conclusio: > >> Americans stop to shut up, turn on your brain, and oppose the > >> passing of silly laws. > > >> And don't forget that there are lobby controlled idiots in high > >> positions ... actually very high ones :(( > s> For every powerful lobby group there is also an anti-lobby group. > sad thing is that on the important things do not have powerful > > s> Sam Heywood > Sam Heywood -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44
