I did not (and do not), claim that owning guns reduces crime. I asked....
Did removeing weapons from the civilians prevent crime ? Or did it simply make it easier for that dictator to maintain controll over the civilian population ? On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:12:52 +0100, Bart Buitinga wrote: > Dear friend, > Are you suggesting this 18th century constitutional reasoning is tricking > you to believe that the US population would stand a chance against the US > army if ever...??? > Sorry to say but I think you're tragically wrong there. Better look at more > recent past (post WW2, or even after the invention of TV, not to mention > the internet, to compare the effects of policies on crime. Privately owned > guns have done no good against crime in the USA, nor have harsher > penalties. What will help are a good social system to improve the position > of the poor, equal chances in education for their children and another > president because this one would be your dictator if only he had the guts > to disobey his father. > This may all sound a little hostile, which is not intended. I just hope to > make very sure the Americans get to read what's really happening. > B > At 15:49 12-1-03 -0500, you wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:20:46 -0000, John Sparks wrote: >>> I will have to concede then that in the current USA widespread gun > ownership >>> is desirable. >>> I grew up in suburban UK and almost no-one had a gun. I never saw anyone >>> carrying a gun (other than children's toys) and only knew 2 people who > owned >>> guns (one an air pistol and one a revolver with no ammunition) Exceptions >>> were the military and fairgrounds and the like. 30 years ago in my >>> environment people did not get shot, none. No guns = no shootings period. >>> Unfortunately that is no longer true, especially in some areas. But I still >>> believe that no guns is a desirable state of affairs. >> Why does there seem to be simply the consentration upon "no guns" as >> being the answer to preventing crime ? >> Why not..... >> no knives.... no clubs.... no swords.... no weapons of any kind ??? >> Is that not exactly what every dictator through-out history has done ??? >> (remove every weapon they could from the hands of the civilians) >> Did removeing weapons from the civilians prevent crime ? >> Or did it simply make it easier for that dictator to >> maintain controll over the civilian population ? >> -- >> Glenn >> http://arachne.cz/ >> http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ >> http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm >> http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
