Hi bobdohse!
17 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sorry all ...
I have 100 msgs in ml.arachne, and no time to dig through.
(exam season ...)
anyways:
PS: I'm myself half hungarian, and the Hungary vs. Romania "battle" is simply
not true (any more:).
But you are right about the Gypsies.
And _NATURALLY_ Europe is not perfect (who is ?)
Europe has many, many problems.
America has also problems.
But a subset of these problems lies in different areas.
For example burocracy is very big here, whereas much smaller and faster in the
US. The amount of money you have to pay for taxes is much higher than in the
US, etc.
b> So, does that mean that it's OKAY for all of us to keep our separate
b> ways?
SURE ! As long as it doesn't hurt others.
It's the old freedom debate:
Does freedom mean that I am free to hurt others ? :))
b> Or must everybody change so that all become alike, yet each
b> keeps their individual name so that *diversity* remains?
NOOOOOO
Where did I state something like that.
b> Because, what I'm hearing is that you don't like some of the American
b> ways.
Right.
But this doesn't have to do with the discussions.
America has its values, and I have mine.
This is absolutely OK and good.
As long as nobody wants to force the way onto others with force, everything is
perfect.
b> And, my understanding is that you think America should change.
no.
My understanding is that america can do what it wants on its terretory.
But it is not OK if America _starts_ a war without being attacked.
It is not OK if america invades a country, without any legal mandate by the UN.
This means there is no legal protection for anybody outside of the US.
Basically "America can do what it wants, and nobody can stop it.
The only thing which matters is what Americans think will help them, and they
can do anything in the world to achieve their goals."
PS: Schr�der and jaques chiraques (?spelling) said:
UN Insepctors should investigate.
If evidence is found, than Iraq has to fully cooperate in the destruction
b> What I have failed to grasp is any reasoning that would suggest why it
b> is logical to argue that America should change to a European
b> perspective, yet illogical to argue that it is Europe who, in fact,
b> needs to change its perspective.
Nobody should change.
Americans can do what they want, as long as they stay on their terretory.
MY problem is if america itself decides what is good and bad for others, and
forces this way on somebody.
b> Maybe that's because I've never been indoctrinated with that
b> particular version of basic knowledge.
??? (I'm very diasspointed about that comment)
Anyways ... maybe this comes from the mixing of 2 issues.
American bullying ... threatening to start an illegal war by its own.
(this is bad ... maybe it is MY being indoctrinated ... but maybe it is you
watching too much fox news)
MY PERSONAL feeling about some American issues.
The second is simply how I see things.
It doesn't mean that america should change.
And I'm sure that there are many european issues as well.
But anyways the 2. part is unimportant. Here I simply wanted to express some of
my private thoughts.
But the first part is of HIGH IMPORTANCE:
again ...
what if america would acuse austria of having many skiers.
america would have 100.000s of soldiers at the borders of austria.
it would say Sch�ssel ("president" of austria) I want to see you dead.
every 2. word concerning Austria would be war.
The UNs would have highly skilled skier detection personel in austria in order
to detect possibly skiers.
And america says I don't care about the UN, I will attack another counrty,
because I want to.
No evidence is given, no proof of any illegal Action in austria is given.
Is it OK if America starts a war against austria ??
b> Bob
CU, Ricsi
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