On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:56:39PM -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> The problem with the Nettamer Mailing List is that it does not allow one
> to post messages to the list from a remote server by one modifying his
> "From:" header so as to indicate that the message is being sent from the
> address from which one is subscribed.

I'm not sure if it's the same deal, but The "Liferaft" list at 
tmonroe.com (ezmlm) also behaves like this. Your subscription is
based on your envelope From_ not your From:.
  
> When I am running PINE on my remote server account I can post messages
> to the Arachne Mailing List if I modify my "From:" header so as to
> indicate that the message was sent by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  

> The Nettamer Mailing List does not recognize me as a subscriber when I
> appropriately modifify my "From:" header in the same manner as for
> posting to the Arachne Mailing List.  I do not have a problem posting to
> the Nettamer List as long as I do it directly from my real ISP and I use
> my real "From:".

When you send a message from your PC with DOS, the envelope From_
and From: are probably the same. When you send a message from PINE
on your shell account, the system writes the envelope From_. The
only way I know how to change that is to do something like: 
$sendmail -t -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] < message.txt (I'm not sure about all
the switches).
 
> A legitimate subscriber may solve this problem by subscribing
> to the mailing list from his remote server email address too.  

On the Liferaft list you can "allow subscribe" (or something like
that) another address which allows you to post with it without
also receiving the list at that address.

> The
> problem with resorting to this solution is that he would be advertising
> also the email address of his remote server account to the spammers who
> harvest email addresses from the mailing lists.

I don't know about the Nettamer list, but with other lists I see 
the envelope From_ of the list, not the poster. With the Liferaft 
list I can put any address I want in the From:.
 
> I wonder what might be the majority opinion as to whether a mailing list
> ought to have a feature for disallowing one to post to a mailing list by
> modifying his "From:" header so as to indicate the email address of a
> legitimate subscriber.

I think the first order of business is to learn how to use both 
types of list.
 
Howard E.

P.S. I have given Clarence my email address, so I may not be on this
     list much longer.

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