On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> I have found that when I attempt to send a message to the list
> from my Unix shell account and using PINE, the message will get
> bounced back to me at my email address at my Unix shell account.
> This will happen even if I fake the "From:" header on the message
> sent from my Unix shell account so as to reflect the email address
> from which I subscribed.  The "bounced mail" message says that the
> message was bounced because only valid subscribers are allowed to
> post.  I can access my POP3 inbox at "shentel.net" from my Unix
> shell account, and I can read all messages addressed to me at my
> "shentel.net" email address when I am logged on to my Unix shell
> account, regardless of whose computer or whose network I use for
> getting into my Unix shell account.   From my Unix shell account I
> can read everything sent to my email address at "shentel.net" and
> I can send replies to all of those messages from my Unix shell
> account, but any reply sent to the arachne list will get bounced to
> my Unix shell account email address saying that I cannot post unless
> I am a valid subscriber.  The list server for the Arachne List knows
> that the message was not sent from an smtp server belonging to
> "shentel.net" even if I fake my "From:".  This means that the list
> server will not allow posting unless both of two conditions are
> satisfied:
> 
> 1.  That the "From:" header matches an email address of a valid
>     subscriber.
> 
> 2.  That the IP number of the smtp server from which the message
>     originated matches an IP number of an smtp server belonging
>     to the network of the valid subscriber.
> 
> If both of the above conditions are not satisfied, the list server
> determines that the sender of the message is not a valid subscriber.
> 
> It would seem to me that if even I can't post here without meeting
> the above two conditions, then the late Nigerian general's son can't
> do so either, unless there is a system in place that confers special
> privileges to the reputed sons of the late Nigerian general.

Sam, 

  This was all discussed and tested at length several weeks 
or even several months ago.  You would not need to wonder 
or speculate if you would simply have tried it yourself.  
Once you try it yourself, you will not soon forget.  So, 
please try it for yourself, and see what happens.  Log in to 
your Unix shell account, and reply to this email, but 
instead of simply hitting Reply, and leaving the address as 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], instead, lengthen the address such that 
it will be arachne-list @ arachne.cz (without the spaces).  
Since there are spambots that crawl all web pages looking 
for e-mail addresses, and this list is published on the web, 
the Nigerian scammers are most likely getting the 
arachne-list @ arachne.cz address from the web.  Go ahead 
and try it.  Reply to arachne-list @ arachne.cz (omitting 
the spaces) using any e-mail account you wish, and see what 
happens.  You will not soon forget what happens, so you will 
no longer have to speculate about Nigerian generals' 
reputed sons, or whether they have "special privileges," or 
whether using the word Nigerian somehow attracts Nigerian 
scammer/spammer traffic or whether the IP address has any 
relevance at all.

-- 
Steve Ackman
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