On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:56:37 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 03:04:16 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
>
>>Cascading Style Sheets--a method that website designers use to
>>fix the graphic look of web pages, sort of a template that gets
>>repeated.
>
>>If you want to enable it there are two methods. (as with most
>
>Turns out I've had it on all the time.
>
>>Try it, you might like it. There are lots of things to play with
>>on the "Options" page. The look and feel of Arachne is up to you.
>
>Since it was already turned on, I've now turned it off, saved the
>changes, and clicked on "Use new settings".
>
>But everything still looks the same on the local pages.
>
>So I restarted Arachne to see if that had any effect.
>
>Nothing apart from those two stripes in the pppglenn.htm dialup page
>have now reverted to the same background colour as is behind the
>other
>buttons.
>
>Turning it on again and checking around, everything still looks the
>same.
>
>I am at a loss to understand. What changes should I see?
>
>from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
>Home of the Bay to Birwood Vintage and Classic motor runs
>http://www.baytobirdwood.com.au
>
>Visit me at http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm
>
>-- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

Greg, Hi from Bonnie Scotland!

You will only see any changes to a page if the writer/designer has 
used css in the page, and  then only if it is one of the (APPARENTLY) 
limited range of css commands that 'rachne understands.

Do a "View Source" on any page to find out first if css is being used 
on the page or site in question. The css "script" is usually called 
from the <head> section of the page and will look something like

<stylesheet src=superduper.css>

which is of course a separate file on the server. Each webpage on a 
site looks at this css stylesheet as it is loaded onto your machine, 
and does what it is told to do by the stylesheet.

The designer can specify to use the font, colour, size (in ems or 
points) italic, bold whatever. If it's installed on your machine, 
then text should be displayed on that basis. Since all pages on a  
website use the same stylesheet, then they should be absolutely 
consistent throughout the website when displayed. The designer calls 
down to paragraph level using commands like

<P class =copysmal>

and from the styylesheet your machine should know that class copysmal 
iis arial italic bold red color 10pts in size because that's what is 
on the css script.

HOWEVER! A F A I K only the very basic  css commands work with 
arachne, and this means the simple ones. Go to one of my webpages 
(experimental) at

www.xetronella.com/indexa.html

and you will see the left hand column of links is "behind" a jscript 
panel on the "View Source" page using a <NOSCRIPT> tag. i.e if you 
have jscript there's an all singing javascript links set-up, if you 
don't (using arachne) you get a basic text links panel in which the 
link changes colour when the mouse is over it, but also suddenly gets 
an underline as well to show it is an active link. Fine, but arachne 
does not recognise all the different type sizes specified in the css 
file for the website.Access the page using Opera or Micro$tuff and 
it's all there!

I asked Michael some time back what Arachne was supposed to recognise 
in css but got not much further. Maybe Glenn knows?

Hope this helps

Regards

Mel


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